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Op PRESENCE/Mali (Cdn mission/s, sitreps, etc. - merged)

Of course the photo taken, then published by the Media Party showed the military in not particularly good light. That's their mission.

I bet there was a photo of a soldier giving aid to a child or family also.

Soldiers are not perfect like members of the media party. Sometimes soldiers fart, or have a brain fart. The media party, can and do, tell everyone how to run a government/country to perfection.
 
I'm sorry, but they're fighting a war....would this be more acceptable?

media.nl
 
.... the C-17 is hauling until just after Valentine's Day:
Today, the Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of National Defence, and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird extended Canada's assistance to France through the extension of one CC-177 Globemaster III aircraft until Feb. 15.

This aircraft is available to France to move equipment and personnel to Mali's capital, Bamako. This aircraft and Canadian Armed Forces personnel will not be part of combat operations. Canada will continue to monitor events in Mali and the Sahel ....
DND/DFAIT Info-machine, 24 Jan 13
 
http://www.thedailyobserver.ca/2013/01/22/427-csor-heading-to-africa

CFB PETAWAWA - Helicopters and personnel from the base will deploy to Western Africa in the next few weeks to support training of the region’s soldiers, the Department of National Defence has confirmed.

An advance team of personnel from the Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR) is already in Niger in preparation for involvement in Flintlock 13, a multinational exercise that will conducted by the U.S. Africa Command in February and March.
 
Rider Pride said:
http://www.thedailyobserver.ca/2013/01/22/427-csor-heading-to-africa

CFB PETAWAWA - Helicopters and personnel from the base will deploy to Western Africa in the next few weeks to support training of the region’s soldiers, the Department of National Defence has confirmed.

An advance team of personnel from the Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR) is already in Niger in preparation for involvement in Flintlock 13, a multinational exercise that will conducted by the U.S. Africa Command in February and March.

Live fire ex in Northern Mali as part of this?

MM
 
Don’t Overreact to Mali (or the Hostages)

Let the Obama doctrine lead the way.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/01/americans_taken_hostage_in_algeria_barack_obama_should_follow_his_own_foreign.html
Why Obama Shouldn’t Overreact on the Hostages

By Fred Kaplan | Posted Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2013, at 7:20 PM ET

| Posted Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2013, at 7:20 PM ET


Slate.com

The French regard their involvement in Mali as a short-term rescue operation Photograph by Eric Feferberg/AFP/Getty Images.


Insurgents allied with al-Qaida mount an assault on southern Mali. The French send troops and launch air strikes to stave off the attack. Islamist militants seize a foreign-owned gas field in Algeria (whose government had let the French planes use its air space) and take at least 20 westerners hostage, including two Americans.


Bin Laden is dead, we’re pulling out of Afghanistan, we’d like to be through with insurgency wars generally—but insurgency wars, it seems, aren’t through with us.


So what is to be done? And who should do it?


First, this confrontation, while nerve-racking, should not be oversold. The jihadist affiliate that’s linked to the Mali insurgents, known as al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, has nothing like the muscle or global reach of bin Laden’s flagship in its heyday. Nor are these insurgents all jihadists; many are simply criminals, drug smugglers, or sectarian warlords who have joined the fight opportunistically—and thus might be peeled away from the fight as well.


Second, this pattern is hardly new. Islamist militias of one sort or another have been present in Mali for a long time; they took control of its northern half a year ago. Few took much notice.


Third, the assault on the Algerian gas field may or may not really have had much to do with the French air strikes, or with al-Qaida. Ransoms from freeing Western hostages has long been a big source of revenue for all these dreadful groups, as is well known to every Western country or company that lays a stake in the area. (Update, Jan. 17: It turns out the raid was led by Mokhtar Belmokhtar, a former al-Qaida figure whose motive may have been a mix of ransom and jihad. The Algerian army surrounded the oil field and, early this morning, launched an attack on Belmokhtar and his men. Casualties have been reported, among the terrorists and the hostages, but details are slim.)



Still, the incidents of the past few days—the militants’ attempt to flex their grip southward toward the capital city of Bamako, followed by the hostage-taking in Algeria and the threat to “open the gates of hell” (as one of the rebel spokesmen put it) for France and any other country that gets in their way—are concerning, to say the least.


Hence, French president Francois Hollande’s rapid dispatch of troops and warplanes to halt the onslaught. And while Malians have mixed feelings at best toward the French, who were once their colonial occupiers, they welcomed the intervention with gratitude; for without it, they certainly would have been overtaken and terrorized.


Where things go from here is less clear. The French regard their action as a short-term rescue operation—a holding action until an alliance of neighboring nations (members of the Economic Community of West African States) gather and deploy roughly 3,000 troops. But it’s not at all clear how long that will take, or how well they can fight once they arrive.


For this reason, France has asked the United States for assistance. Should we comply? If so, how?


There is something of an “Obama doctrine” for these sorts of conflicts. On the one hand, it acknowledges the war on terror, the need to kill or capture certain bad guys, the importance of dismantling groups like al-Qaida and containing their expansion—especially when allies request our assistance and are in the fight as well. On the other hand, it clearly declares: “No more Iraqs or Afghanistans”—or, as Obama put it a year ago at a Pentagon news conference announcing the results of a major strategic review, “the end of long-term nation-building with large military footprints.” Instead, as stated in the official document that he and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta signed, the United States “will develop innovative, low-cost, small-footprint approaches to achieve our security objectives.”


And so there are many hot spots in the world where the Obama administration (sometimes President Obama himself) has ordered commando raids or drone strikes on “high-value targets.” In the case of Libya, he joined a NATO military campaign (which had been requested by the Arab League and authorized by the U.N. Security Council) but did not lead it. Rather, the United States focused on providing its “unique capabilities” to the warfront—especially drones (both for providing surveillance and dropping smart bombs), long-range airlift of supplies, and some on-the-ground intelligence assets. This is what some uncharitably called “leading from behind,” and it proved successful.


That’s probably the sort of thing we will do in Mali—and what we should do, if France’s rapid counterblow doesn’t stave off the threat. Even this is not as easy as it might seem: air bases are far, far away; drone operators need local people on the ground to tell them where to aim the cameras and what they are looking at. Whole logistical and intelligence networks need to be created. Even if Obama were inclined to do more, say, to send troops (which he almost certainly is not), he couldn’t, owing to a law barring U.S. troops from aiding a foreign government that came to power as the result of a coup. And it’s worth noting that the officer who overthrew Mali’s democratically elected government just last year, Captain Amadou Sanogo, had been, not long before, a promising student in a U.S. Army training program.


This should give further pause to anyone advocating major action on our part. We don’t know the territory, we don’t know the players, we don’t know who’s worth backing, and who’s not. There are others who do, and they happen to have a bigger stake in the conflict. One lesson we should have learned in the last decade (and in much of the half-century before that) is that, in these sorts of cases, where we’re so in the dark, we should keep a low profile, if we get involved at all.













 
French led forces have taken Gao and Lere. If the Maliang overnment can come to terms with the Taureg  their problems in the north may be minimzed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21210496

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I realise a lot of people on this site are opposed to Airborne forces, but the French just conducted an Airborne op north of Tombouctou in Mali, dropping a reinforced Coy from 2 REP to cut escape/access routes:

http://lignesdedefense.blogs.ouest-france.fr/archive/2013/01/28/la-legion-saute-sur-tombouctou-le-2e-rep-etait-en-guepard-ta.html

Ce lundi matin,  un largage par 2 C-130 et 3 C-160 a eu lieu au nord de la ville de Tombouctou pour verrouiller les accés. Une compagnie "très renforcée du REP" a sauté avec succès. Elle est partie d'Abidjan où elle avait été prépositionnée.

Get some !!
 
Anyone opposed to airborne forces is most likely not  airborne. :camo:
 
Jungle said:
I realise a lot of people on this site are opposed to Airborne forces, but the French just conducted an Airborne op north of Tombouctou in Mali, dropping a reinforced Coy from 2 REP to cut escape/access routes:

http://lignesdedefense.blogs.ouest-france.fr/archive/2013/01/28/la-legion-saute-sur-tombouctou-le-2e-rep-etait-en-guepard-ta.html

Get some !!
More from the French military info machine:
Ainsi, après s’être emparée de Gao dans la nuit du 26 au 27 janvier, la force Serval, en coordination avec des unités maliennes, a pris cette nuit (28 janvier) le contrôle de l’aéroport et des accès de la ville de Tombouctou par une manœuvre aéroterrestre.

Appuyée par plusieurs patrouilles de chasse et les hélicoptères du groupe aéromobile (GAM) et des moyens de surveillance (ATL 2, drone), la force Serval s’est emparée simultanément de l’aéroport de Tombouctou avec le GTIA 21eRIMa et des abords nord de la ville par le largage des parachutistes du 2erégiment étranger de parachutistes (2eREP). Le dispositif se réarticule actuellement pour consolider la position et permettre aux autorités et forces armées maliennes (FAM) de reprendre le contrôle de la ville.

.Enfin, le bâtiment de projection et de commandement (BPC) Dixmude a accosté à Dakar ce matin. Il a entamé le débarquement des hommes et des véhicules du GTIA 2 qui commenceront sans tarder leur mouvement vers Bamako.
Clunky Google Translate into English here.

Also, a bit of video from Al Jazeera English, actually having a reporter saying Mali folks appear to be happy to see French troops....
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2013/01/201312893854155489.html
Let's hope that lasts.....
 
The population didnt care for sharia law and are overjoyed to be rid of the jihadists.
 
tomahawk6 said:
The population didnt care for sharia law and are overjoyed to be rid of the jihadists.
True, and it'll stay that way as long as the bad guys can be kept out - that'll depend on the Mali troops in the long term.  Fingers crossed....
 
More from a report I heard on NPR this morning:

French-Led Forces Poised To Retake Timbuktu

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/28/170436043/french-led-forces-close-to-taking-back-timbuktu
In the West African nation of Mali, French-led forces are close to taking back the ancient city of Timbuktu from al-Qaida-linked extremists. Renee Montagne talks to Al Jazeera correspondent Jacky Rowland, who is embedded with French soldiers.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

It's MORNING EDITION NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep.

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

And I'm Renee Montagne.

When Islamist militants and rebels took over the vast desert region of Northern Mali last year, the big price by was the fabled city of Timbuktu. This morning, French-led forces are poised to take back Timbuktu. They've reached the airport outside the city, which a joint force of French and Malian troops took over the weekend.

Jacky Rowland is a correspondent for Al Jazeera. She's embedded with French soldiers, and we reached her at the airport. Good morning.

JACKY ROWLAND: Good morning, Renee.

MONTAGNE: Now, I gather French paratroopers have already dropped into Timbuktu. Tell us about that and what the plan is now.

ROWLAND: Yes. The French attacked the city of Timbuktu from two angles. In the north, French paratroopers dropped. Now, from the South, I was following the ground assault. Ground troops from the French and Malian armies were moved up and have seized the airport. So the situation at the moment, Renee, is that the French with their allies are controlling the outskirts of the city. They've set up checkpoints on various access roads.

MONTAGNE: Now, when you were traveling towards Timbuktu with those French troops, what did you see along the way?

ROWLAND: There were a few things that we noticed. First of all was the very enthusiastic welcome to the advancing French forces. Certainly up until now we've been moving through largely black African territory and the Malian government army is essentially a black army. It will be interesting to see how that changes as this advance moves further north and we start to move into a more mixed population. There has over the centuries been a lot of mistrust between the black Africans and the fairer skinned Africans. I think that there could be some apprehension among some parts of the population. Certainly the Malian army has been accused by Human Rights Watch and others of human rights violation.

Now, the other interesting thing that we've noticed was that each town we went through, there were no signs of fighting. And the local people we spoke to said that the rebels, these jihadist fighters, had simply fled when they heard the French were coming. And I think that gives some idea of how it's going to be difficult for the French and their Malian allies to really secure this part of Mali on a long-term basis, bearing in mind the ability of these fighters simply to disappear over borders from which potentially in the future they could (unintelligible) .


MONTAGNE: Well, you really pointed to something that one might be thinking about now. And that was the French, you know, had been a colonial power in Mali. It was invited in by the government - a rather weak government - to help push out these Islamist militants that had taken over all this territory. But the French do not plan to stay, I gather.

ROWLAND: Yes. So it's interesting to look at the longer term French strategy. It's worth pointing out that in recent years the Chinese have been making inroads into Africa, both metaphorically and literally. They've been building a lot in Africa. They built the new African Union headquarters. France has been worried how maybe its influence is now being challenged by the Chinese.

Now, in the longer term you're right; the French don't want to stay here. The idea is that the joint force of West African nations are due to supply up to 6,000 troops, so then will fall(ph) the long-term path not only of securing the territory but holding it. And that's why it's very important for this West African force to come together and it's been taking quite a long time, actually, for that to happen.

MONTAGNE: Thank you very much for talking with us.

ROWLAND: Thank you, Renee.

MONTAGNE: Jacky Rowland is a correspondent for Al Jazeera. She's with French troops just outside of Timbuktu, as they ready to retake the city from Islamist militants.
 
And this from the CBC posted under the Fair Dealing provision of the Copyright Act. Who would have thunk?

Canadian special forces on ground in Mali, sources say

CBC News Posted: Jan 28, 2013 3:20 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 28, 2013 6:24 PM ET 


Canadian special forces are on the ground inside the troubled West African country of Mali to protect Canadian assets there, CBC News has learned.

The Special Forces are not there to train Malian troops — and they are not involved in any combat role, as the government has repeatedly stressed and Prime Minister Stephen Harper repeated again Monday in the House of Commons.

The Department of National Defence would not confirm or deny the special forces are in Mali due to issues of security of personnel.

But Evan Solomon, host of CBC News Network's Power & Politics, reports the special forces on the ground are protecting Canadian assets such as the Canadian embassy in the capital Bamako, according to sources.

The forces are not related to Canadian Forces crews who have been piloting and supporting Canadian C-17 transport planes in support of French troops since Jan. 18. That mission was extended last week until Feb. 15.

It is not known how many special forces are on the ground in Mali, what are their rules of engagements and what assets they are protecting.

Sources also told CBC News Canadian special forces conducting a training exercise in the neighbouring country of Niger passed along tactical information about the Malian Islamist rebels to the French.

Canada is not involved in any fighting on the ground in Mali, but after skirmishes close to the Niger-Malian border, Niger's military passed along information to the Canadian trainers who in turn, passed it along to French forces.

The Canadians were worried apparently that if the fighting spread they might be mistaken as targets — a source said passing the information to the French was simply "prudent."

Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair told Solomon that if the special forces are protecting Canadians, the embassy and embassy staff, that is "simply normal protection" and not military involvement.

Mulcair pointed to the need to avoid a situation like what occurred in Benghazi, Libya, last summer, when the American ambassador and others were killed during an attack on the U.S. consulate there.

"We would never want to see something like that — we'd want to have proper protection for Canadian personnel at the embassy.

"We're simply talking about protecting people in the embassy," Mulcair said.


But Mulcair repeated his position that Parliament be consulted before Canada makes any military or combat commitment beyond the C-17 missions.

In response to a question from Mulcair earlier Monday, Harper confirmed Parliament will be consulted on Canada's next steps, but didn't provide any additional details about either military assistance or humanitarian funding Canada may be considering.

"We will not undertake a Canadian combat mission in Mali," Harper told the Commons, reiterating his government's message over the past two weeks.

"We will through this chamber and through committees … be consulting with Parliament on any further steps that need to be taken," the prime minister told MPs in the first Commons sitting after MPs' winter break.

Fantino to attend Mali talks
International Co-operation Minister Julian Fantino is heading to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, for a high-level international meeting on the conflict in Mali.

Addis Ababa, EthiopiaA release from Fantino's office Monday billed the talks as addressing "the financial, logistical and capacity building needs of both the Malian forces and the African-led International Support Mission in Mali."

Asked what he wanted to see from Fantino's attendance at the conference, Mulcair told Solomon that Mali is one of the countries where Canada had been engaged historically, and lamented what he said was the Conservatives' decision to withdraw from Africa recently. He called the government's decision to support French forces in Mali "the right thing to do."

Canada suspended its international development assistance to Mali following a coup in the country last spring, but it has provided humanitarian assistance to vulnerable populations affected by the conflict.

Insurgents affiliated with al-Qaeda now control the country's north. The United Nations security council passed a resolution in December authorizing an African-led mission to attempt to restore order in the country and prevent the country's capital, Bamako, from falling to the rebel groups.

The French military intervened earlier this month, with first an aerial bombing campaign and then ground
 
Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair told Solomon that if the special forces are protecting Canadians, the embassy and embassy staff, that is "simply normal protection" and not military involvement.
Holy smokes! An adult, non-disingenuous opposition leader. The NDP base must be furious.
 
Just streamlining things a bit, bringing the "Canada's mission" and "Mali in general" threads together here into this merged thread.

Milnet.ca Staff
 
hamiltongs said:
Holy smokes! An adult, non-disingenuous opposition leader. The NDP base must be furious.

haha Thought the exact same thing when I read it.
 
hamiltongs said:
Holy smokes! An adult, non-disingenuous opposition leader. The NDP base must be furious.
THAT's the sound you just heard....
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Jungle said:
I realise a lot of people on this site are opposed to Airborne forces, but the French just conducted an Airborne op north of Tombouctou in Mali, dropping a reinforced Coy from 2 REP to cut escape/access routes ....
And here's a YouTube link to what's said to be drone video of the jumpers jumping....
 
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