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North Korea (Superthread)

South Korea rejects North Korea offer of dialogue
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SEOUL, Jan 10, 2011 (AFP) - South Korea on Monday rejected North Korea’s latest offer of dialogue, saying the communist country must be judged on its deeds rather than its words.

The North made what it called a formal proposal Saturday for an "unconditional and early opening" of talks within weeks.

The latest offer followed an apparent easing in tensions, which soared after the North shelled a South Korean border island on November 23 and killed four people including civilians.

But Seoul’s unification ministry, which handles cross-border relations, rejected the latest overture.

"It’s hard to consider it as a sincere offer of dialogue," said spokesman Chun Hae-Sung, adding the North should first show it is serious about denuclearisation.

"North Korea must also take responsible steps our people can accept" over the November shelling and the sinking of a South Korean warship in March last year, he said.

"The door for dialogue is open if North Korea shows a sincere attitude," Chun added.

The South says the North torpedoed the ship near the disputed Yellow Sea border with the loss of 46 lives, a charge Pyongyang denies.

Tensions have been acute since the shelling, the first attack on a civilian area in the South since the 1950-53 war. The South has staged a series of military exercises in a show of force.

Pyongyang’s Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland said Saturday there was "neither conditionality in the North’s proposal for dialogue nor need to cast any doubt about its real intention".

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Skepticism abounds as rival Koreas meet for talks

SEOUL - Military officers from the rival Koreas met at their heavily armed border on Tuesday for their first talks since North Korea attacked a southern island in November, with analysts skeptical about the North's motives.

The talks clear one of the roadblocks to a possible resumption of six-way talks aimed at ending North Korea's nuclear-weapons program, last held more than two years ago when the North walked out, announcing the process dead.

North Korean Colonel Ri Son-kwon patted his counterpart from the South, Col. Moon Sang-gyun, on the shoulder and they shook hands before they started negotiations at the Panmunjom truce village, video footage showed. They have met several times over the years.

"When they (North Korea) need something, which usually means money, they first drive tensions high, then switch to the charm offensive and start talks in order to get something," said Andrei Lankov, a North Korea expert at Kookmin University in Seoul.

"If they do not get what they need, they turn the switch back to the confrontational mood."

The meeting is the first between the rivals since November, when the North bombarded the island of Yeonpyeong in disputed waters off the west coast killing four people.

South Korea also accused the North of torpedoing one of its navy ships, killing 46 sailors, in March. Pyongyang denied involvement and says the South provoked the shelling of Yeonpyeong by firing artillery rounds into its water during a military drill.
The defence ministry in Seoul gave no further details about Tuesday's meeting.

Under pressure from the United States and China, host of the six-party talks, the neighbours have toned down their combative rhetoric over the past month and agreed to talk.

The two Koreas are still technically at war, because an armistice not a treaty ended their 1950-53 civil conflict, and have been involved in dozens of deadly confrontations over the years, including cross-border commando raids, political assassinations, an airliner bombing and military clashes.

Beijing and Washington had set inter-Korean dialogue as a prerequisite to restart six-party talks. The North has said it wants to return to six-party negotiations, but Seoul and Washington have questioned its sincerity about denuclearising — pointing to its revelations last November about a uranium enrichment program as proof.

Pyongyang says the uranium program, which potentially opens a second route to make an atomic bomb after its plutonium program, is for peaceful energy-making purposes.

Seoul and Washington want the UN Security Council to punish the North for the program because it contravenes past resolutions, whereas Beijing favours dealing with the matter in the six-party talks which also involve Japan and Russia.

Washington and Seoul are expected to take the issue to the UN Security Council this month, but experts say Beijing, which is a permanent member of the Security Council, is unlikely to back any new resolution against the North.

The South's Wi Sung-lac is due to visit Beijing on Thursday to discuss the best approach to deal with the North.

Seoul also says its poor neighbour, squeezed by UN sanctions for nuclear and missile tests, only wants to restart six-party talks to get aid. The South says it will only resume economic help when the North totally dismantles its atomic program.

Tuesday's colonel-level talks are aimed at setting the time and agenda for higher-level dialogue, possibly between their defence ministers. Officials say it may take several rounds of working-level talks to prepare for the senior meeting.

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Korean talks end in deadlock with North
Talks between North and South Korea appeared to end in an impasse on Tuesday after the South ruled out further meetings until Pyongyang took responsibility for recent attacks on its neighbour.

The low-level military talks, which were billed as paving the way to higher-level peace talks, were the first since North Korean artillery bombarded South Korea's Yeonpyeong island last November, killing four people and bringing the peninsula to the brink of war. South Korea wants the regime of Kim Jong-il to apologize for the attack and the torpedoing of a warship in the Yellow Sea last March which cost 46 South Korean sailors their lives - an attack North Korea denies.

"Our stance has not changed. A higher-level military meeting will be possible only if North Korea takes responsible measures for the attacks on Yeonpyeong Island and the Cheonan warship and promises not to carry out any more provocations," a defence ministry spokesman said.

No further details of the carefully choreographed meeting in the Korean Demilitarized Zone were announced. Defence sources quoted by the Korea Times said that Pyongyang had not given ground over the two incidents.

Skeptical South Korean analysts suggested that North Korea was using the talks to win back economic aid that has been cut off since illegal nuclear weapons test in 2009. "When they [North Korea] need something, which usually means money, they first drive tensions high, then switch to the charm offensive and start talks in order to get something," said Andrei Lankov, a North Korea expert at Kookmin University.

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One response by the ROK:

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/02/south-korea-has-robotic-super-gun-super.html#more

South Korea has a robotic "Super Gun" the Super Aegis 2

1. Billed by its manufacturers DoDaam of South Korea as a "Total Security Solution," the Super Aegis is an automated turret system that supports a variety of weapons, from a standard machine-gun to a surface-to-air missile.

It is designed to repel an attacker from up to 3 kilometers away, using sophisticated thermal imaging software and camera systems to lock onto a human-sized target even in the dead of night

The system requires no human presence. It's all operated robotically from a distant control room.
Screenshot from a video showing a hail of shots from a supergun

DoDaam Systems Vice-President Park Sung-ho says the high-tech weapon could become an integral component in South Korea's ongoing military face-off with North Korea across the heavily armed Demilitarised Zone.

[Park Sung-ho, Vice President, Dodaam Systems]:
"We have certain circumstance where North and South Korea are confronting each other and currently soldiers are operating a lot of military equipment. If the job can be replaced by non-human guarding and monitoring robots, it could reduce the number of labour forces and military forces. And it could also reduce human losses under real combat situations."

Super aEgis 2 detects objects with two cameras: a low-light camera and a thermal imaging camera which senses body temperature.

A laser range finder and gyroscopic stabiliser keep the weapon steady in high winds.
 
57Chevy said:
"When they need something, which usually means money, they first drive tensions high, then switch to the charm offensive and start talks in order to get something,"
That sounds to me like some little "kids strategy" ;D

Kim Jong Il's budget birthday bash <----link
With North Korea struggling to feed its people, the "dear leader" had to settle for a scaled-down celebration this year (and only one $16 million yacht)
North Korea's Kim Jong Il turned 69 on Wednesday, but his birthday wasn't as spectacularly happy as it's been in the past. With the communist nation struggling to feed its 23 million people amid food shortages, an unusually harsh winter, and stiff economic sanctions, Kim's party planners slashed the budget for the traditionally lavish bash. Here, a quick guide to the relatively frugal festivities: 

need to read more, go to link

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North Koreans celebrated Kim Jong-Il's 69th birthday in a less-than-festive mood, given that the state canceled their annual food bonuses. Photo: Corbis
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More developments from the DPRK. It looks like they are still going for the blackmail option:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-about-adding-a-north-korea-crisis-to-the-mix/?print=1

How About Adding a North Korea Crisis to the Mix?
Posted By Dan Miller On February 26, 2011 @ 12:00 am In Uncategorized | 15 Comments

With much of the rest of the world — Egypt, Iran, Libya, and others — in escalating turmoil and with other potential hot spots getting hotter, events on the Korean peninsula [1] may well be getting less coordinated attention from the Obama administration even than they normally do, and even than they got when the still simmering Korean mess erupted late last year.

More recently, the Obama administration found itself wallowing in bad intelligence and conflicting administration statements as to Egypt [2]. That deficiency continues even as to Libya [3], the current hot spot de jour; the worldwide economic [4]consequences of the situation there may be very great. As noted here [3]:

No direct condemnation of the Qaddafi regime. No expression of support for the demonstrators. No hint of action on our part — no immediate economic embargo, no threats against any individuals involved in the atrocities, no call for a U.N. Security Council meeting, no sign of possible NATO enforcement of a no-fly zone, no demand that the border be opened for humanitarian aid. Instead, the State Department is trying to “convey a message” to the Libyan government.

This is your State Department at work. Surely there are some in the White House — I think there are some — who are cringing at such an absence of moral clarity on the part of the U.S. government and at such a failure of American leadership. Let’s hope they persuade the president to step forward very soon to overrule the State Department, and to put the United States, in both speech and deed, strongly and unequivocally on the side of decency and freedom.

The dithering must stop; whether it will is unknown and unknowable.

The situation in Pakistan is now heating up with probable consequences greater than potential embarrassment over recent unofficial confirmations [5] that Raymond Allen Davis — for whom Pakistan had refused to honor diplomatic immunity demanded by the United States — “had been working as a CIA security contractor for the U.S. consulate in Lahore.” Further protests in Pakistan have resulted and the already shaky United States-Pakistan alliance seems to be fraying perhaps beyond repair.

Venezuela [6] may become another hot spot before very long. When might the situation in Israel [7] explode into an open and declared war? That situation is continuously exacerbated perhaps beyond redemption by the mixed signals the Obama administration continues to give; that is the only consistency it has shown. Is the “administration simply too incompetent to understand the significance of its actions”?

Now is the time actually to pay attention and to anticipate further unrest in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK or North Korea). The rulers of the DPRK are malign; they are not stupid and seem more adept at seeing out than we are at seeing in. Their slaves don’t know much about the world beyond the borders, but the rulers do. As the situation in the DPRK continues to descend into anarchy, its temporary avoidance will likely require dramatically increased military excitement. While the Obama administration’s fleeting attention to Asia is further diminished [8] by developments elsewhere, it may become too late. Even the glorious mess in Wisconsin might have to get along without further help from the Obama administration.

While continuing to enhance [9] its already firm relationship with Iran, the DPRK continues to experience increasing difficulties, most self-inflicted. Widespread starvation was and remains bad but now there is also rampant hoof and mouth disease [10], which will lead to even more starvation. It began in Pyongyang, and “a guard post between Pyongyang and Pyongsong is preventing vehicles from entering the capital. … Pyongyang was the first location where the disease broke out”:

As pig farms in Pyongyang run by the party and the Army’s Guard Command were among those affected, the regime was reluctant to admit the outbreak, RFA said. It tried to contain the disease only with pesticides and lime, leading to rapid spread to neighboring provinces such as Hwanghae and Gangwon.

“Koksan in Hwanghae Province is home to many military pig farms,” a North Korean source said. “If the area has been affected the military must have suffered a great deal of damage.” The North in the report said vaccination efforts with a homegrown vaccine made little difference.

However, there are claims that the outbreak is giving North Koreans an opportunity to eat meat. RFA said as soon as a pig was spotted drooling or staggering in Gangwon Province, residents immediately culled it for sale in the market. That caused a drop in pork prices in the province, leading to an influx of buyers from as far afield as South Pyongan Province, it added.

Free North Korea Radio said that on leader Kim Jong-il’s birthday last Thursday, meat from infected cattle and pigs was distributed to residents in Daehongdan, Ryanggang Province. A North Korean defector who was a veterinarian said when livestock contract FMD in North Korea, they are not buried but eaten.

Animal hoof and mouth disease is different from human foot and mouth disease and the diseases are not transmissible [11] from animals to humans or vice versa. However, the responsible viruses may mutate and, in any event, humans can carry highly contagious [12] animal hoof and mouth disease to other animals. For that reason and others, it is necessary to dispose of the animal carcasses in ways likely to minimize spread of the contagion; distributing the meat and other body parts for sale, consumption, and other purposes throughout the country will only accelerate the spread of the disease.

Previously, it had been reported [13] that the boundaries of the area within the capital city of Pyongyang had been redrawn to reduce the area dramatically; that had been attributed to food shortages and to the strain of providing the extra benefits normally given to Pyongyang residents. “About 500,000 people were excluded as Pyongyang citizens who have been relatively well-fed despite chronic food shortages.” The sudden diminution of the miserable “well-being” of the already very poor can have great destabilizing consequences.

“Global warming” appears to be harassing North Korea’s west coast [14] and in consequence deliveries (presumably from China) have been infrequent for about forty-five days; the problem is expected to continue for another ten days or so:

The North’s state media reported last month that temperatures in December and January had been markedly colder than usual, causing hardship for “the people’s lives.”

South Korean humanitarian aid groups that maintain contact with the North said the harsh conditions had severely compounded existing malnutrition and shelter problems.

Pyongyang has reportedly stepped up its calls for aid from the international community in recent weeks amid what the aid groups consider a worsening humanitarian situation.

Despite or perhaps because of these conditions, North Korea has moved about half [15] of its three hundred Kong Bang hovercraft south to a port close to disputed islands near South Korea. Each carries a platoon of soldiers, about thirty, and “can travel about 250 kilometers, at a speed of about 80 kilometers an hour”:

Lack of fuel and spare parts limits training for these hovercraft, so any combat use would essentially be with poorly trained and inexperienced crews. Originally intended for delivering commandos quickly, the hovercraft are fast, but noisy and very vulnerable to any kind of gunfire or explosives.

A base [16] for “about 70 hovercraft is reaching completion at Koampo, South Hwanghae Province, 50 to 60 km from Baeknyeong Island in the West Sea.”

Meanwhile, and probably as a way to ransom “humanitarian aid,” the DPRK is completing a tunnel needed for another nuclear test [17]. It is in North Hamgyong Province, the site of two nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009, and has progressed “to a depth of 800 m. Another 200 m is all that is needed to conduct a third nuclear test. The DPRK has also completed a new missile launch pad in Tongchang-ri in North Pyongyan Province”:

Pyongyang is probably surprised by the steadfast stance of the South Korean and U.S. governments since the launch of the Lee Myung-bak administration, despite its provocations. As a result, it may well be cooking up a scheme that it hopes will shock Seoul and Washington. In other words, the next provocation could be the worst one so far. Experts speculate North Korea could attempt multiple attacks simultaneously including a nuclear test, a terror attack on a South Korean city and property, and assassination of a South Korean official.

Admiral Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific Command, recently warned of more DPRK military provocations [18] within the next few months, and on February 18 South Korean Prime Minister Kim Hwang-sik issued a similar warning [19]. The DPRK’s defense minister last month demanded direct two-party talks with the United States and in doing so warned Secretary of Defense Gates of a nuclear catastrophe [20] should they not occur. The DPRK military seems increasingly [21] to be calling the shots in foreign relations. China [15] has continued to push for six-party talks and has also been blocking efforts [22] to have the United Nations Security Council publish a report on the DPRK’s nuclear program. China, as is customary, is far more concerned about her own problems than those of others and will do just about anything she can to avoid hordes of North Koreans crossing the border to attempt to resettle in China.

The situation in North Korea will almost certainly continue to worsen for the “little people” there as long as the Kim regime remains in power. Under a purely military regime it seems unlikely to be noticeably better, and in either event further military attacks on South Korea, further nuclear development, and further bomb and missile tests are quite likely. Provision of “humanitarian aid” and amelioration of economic sanctions, in place due to long continued and now expanding nuclear development and nuclear weapons testing, would help the “little people” only very temporarily and marginally if at all while rewarding the regime and extending its lease on life. That consequence has been demonstrated multiple times and now, when there are at least some small signs [23] that popular revolt may be brewing, is not the time to give it another shot while hoping for change for the better. Nor is it the time to do whatever China tells us — her debtor — to do [24].

Whatever happens in North Korea seems unlikely to wait until 2013 when we may have a new and far better president of the United States; it will come much sooner than that. New and wiser heads than are now leading advising an uninterested [2] President Obama, who cares far more about his domestic initiatives, must caution against continued dithering and stumbling aimlessly down the path of least resistance toward political expediency. Of equal importance, they must tell him how and try to push him in the right direction. Unless these cautions and advice have the desired effect those advisers must resign and their advice must be revealed candidly and ventilated without reservation in House and Senate hearings.

Being a community organizer [25] is pretty easy; despite President Obama’s best efforts to bring to the presidency such talents as he developed in that capacity, it’s really tough being the president. The keys to making it less tough and less dangerous for the United States and her allies are available to President Obama. It is up to him to use them; if he fails to do so, it is unfortunately up to others to try in the only lawful ways at their disposal to force his hand.

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[1] the Korean peninsula: http://pajamasmedia.com../../../../../blog/what-does-koreas-chaos-portend-for-the-united-states/?singlepage=true
[2] Egypt: http://pajamasmedia.com../../../../../blog/dithering-wont-keep-the-peace/?singlepage=true
[3] Libya: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pathetic_550579.html
[4] worldwide economic : http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b62b7532-3e79-11e0-9e8f-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=crm/email/2011222/nbe/ExclusiveComment/product#axzz1EgltOl9R
[5] unofficial confirmations: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110221/ap_on_re_us/us_pakistain_detained_american;_ylt=Ag7IjnlGIKare86AwJcgTnms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTN1YnJrMGQ5BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMjIxL3VzX3Bha2lzdGFpbl9kZXRhaW5lZF9hbWVyaWNhbgRjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzIEcG9zAzgEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2FycmVzdGVkdXNvZg--
[6] Venezuela: http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2011/02/good-devil-moves-out-of-venezuela.html
[7] Israel: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=209264
[8] diminished: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/special-to-the-china-post/2011/02/15/291134/Egypt-may.htm
[9] enhance: http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1720688&Lang=E
[10] hoof and mouth disease: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/02/21/2011022101243.html
[11] transmissible: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/revb/enterovirus/hfhf.htm
[12] highly contagious: http://www.answers.com/topic/foot-and-mouth-disease
[13] been reported: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gqyyQCecyQjMKDYNHOi4DKceFgYA?docId=CNG.e4c0f8b05d70ed1feaeb1c2cf03f5035.171
[14] west coast: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/02/116_81828.html
[15] moved about half: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2011/02/21/47/0301000000AEN20110221001900315F.HTML
[16] base: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/02/21/2011022100391.html
[17] another nuclear test: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/02/21/2011022101263.html
[18] military provocations: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12503179
[19] similar warning: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/south-korea-says-more-attacks-possible-report-2011-02-17
[20] nuclear catastrophe: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2011/02/21/57/0301000000AEN20110221008900315F.HTML
[21] seems increasingly: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/02/22/2011022200347.html
[22] blocking efforts: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/02/18/11/china-blocking-un-report-nkorea-diplomat
[23] small signs: http://pajamasmedia.com../../../../../blog/happy-birthday-dear-leader-kim-jong-il/?singlepage=true
[24] tells us — her debtor — to do: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.ae2d2f54b4997246bb7b180d2736bac1.e1&show_article=1
[25] community organizer: http://pajamasmedia.com../../../../../victordavishanson/but-thats-why-community-organizers-do/?singlepage=true
 
While the world's attention is focused on both Japan and Libya...

North Korea Builds A Bigger Little Shark

March 28, 2011: North Korea has apparently been building an improved version of its Song (Shark) class mini-sub. The 250 ton Sang is actually a coastal sub modified for special operations. The original design is a 34 meter (105 feet) long boat with a snorkel and a top submerged speed of 17 kilometers an hour (or 13 kilometers an hour when at periscope depth using the snorkel to run the diesel engines). Top surface speed is 13 kilometers an hour. Max diving depth is 150 meters (465 feet) and the boat is designed to rest on the ocean bottom (useful when trying to avoid enemy search). There is a crew of 15, plus either six scuba swimmer commandos, or a dozen men who can go ashore in an inflatable boat. Some Songs have two or four torpedo tubes. Max endurance is about eight days. The new model is 39 meters (121 feet) long and is believed to have a max submerged speed of 27 kilometers an hour. Over 40 Songs have been built so far, and one was captured by South Korea when it ran aground in 1996. At least half a dozen are of the new model.
North Korea has a fleet of over 80 mini-subs, plus about 24 older Russian type conventional boats (based on late-World War II German designs, as adapted for Russian service as the Whiskey and Romeo class). China helped North Korea set up its own submarine building operation, which included building some of the large Romeo class subs.
North Korea got the idea for minisubs from Russia, which has had them for decades. North Korea has developed several mini-sub designs, most of them available to anyone with the cash to pay.

The most popular mini-sub is the M100D, a 76 ton, 19 meter (58 foot) long boat that has a crew of four and can carry eight divers and their equipment. The North Koreans got the idea for the M100D when they bought the plans for a 25 ton Yugoslav mini-sub in the 1980s. Only four were built, apparently as experiments to develop a larger North Korean design. There are to be over 30 M100Ds, and they can be fitted with two torpedoes that are carried externally, but fired from inside the sub.
North Korea is believed to have fitted some of the Songs and M100Ds with acoustic tiles, to make them more difficult to detect by sonar. This technology was popular with the Russians, and that's where the North Koreans were believed to have got the technology.
The most novel design is a submersible speedboat. This 13 meter (40 foot) boat looks like a speedboat, displaces ten tons and can carry up to eight people. It only submerges to a depth of about 3.2 meters (ten feet). Using a snorkel apparatus (a pipe type device to bring in air and expel diesel engine fumes), the boat can move underwater. In 1998, a South Korean destroyer sank one of these. A follow-on class displaced only five tons, and could carry six people (including one or two to run the boat). At least eight of these were believed built.
The use of a North Korea midget sub to sink a South Korean corvette in March, 2010, forced the United States, and South Korea, to seriously confront the problems involved in finding these small subs in coastal waters. This is a difficult task, because the target is small, silent (moving using battery power) and in a complex underwater landscape, that makes sonar less effective.
There are some potential solutions. After the Cold War ended in 1991, the U.S. recognized that these coastal operations would become more common. So, in the 1990s, the U.S. developed the Advanced Deployable System (ADS) for  detecting non-nuclear submarines in coastal waters. The ADS is portable, and can quickly be flown to where it is needed. ADS is believed to be in South Korea. ADS basically adapts the popular Cold War SOSUS system (many powerful listening devices surrounding the major oceans, and analyzing the noises to locate submarines) developed by the United States.
ADS consists of battery powered passive (they just listen) sensors that are battery powered and deployed by ship along the sea bottom in coastal waters. A fiber optic cable goes from the sensors (which look like a thick cable) back to shore, where a trailer containing computers and other electronics, and the ADS operators, runs the system. ADS has done well in tests, but it has never faced the North Korean mini-subs.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - North Korea and Iran appear to have been regularly exchanging ballistic missile technology in violation of U.N. sanctions, according to a confidential U.N. report obtained by Reuters on Saturday.

The report said the illicit technology transfers had "trans-shipment through a neighboring third country." That country was China, several diplomats told Reuters on condition of anonymity.


The report was submitted to the Security Council by a U.N. Panel of Experts, a group that monitors compliance with U.N. sanctions imposed on Pyongyang after it conducted two nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009.

The U.N. sanctions included a ban on trade in nuclear and missile technology with North Korea, as well as an arms embargo. They also banned trade with a number of North Korean firms and called for asset freezes and travel bans on some North Korean individuals.

"Prohibited ballistic missile-related items are suspected to have been transferred between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) and the Islamic Republic of Iran on regular scheduled flights of Air Koryo and Iran Air," the report said.

"For the shipment of cargo, like arms and related materiel, whose illicit nature would become apparent on any cursory physical inspection, (North) Korea seems to prefer chartered cargo flights," it said.

It added that the aircraft tended to fly "from or to air cargo hubs which lack the kind of monitoring and security to which passenger terminals and flights are now subject."

Several Security Council diplomats said China was unhappy about the report and might not agree to release it to the public. At the moment, only the 15 council members have official access to the document.

One of the independent experts on the panel is from China and diplomats said he never endorsed the report.

Beijing has prevented the publication of expert panel reports on North Korea and Sudan in the past. Earlier this week, Russia took similar steps to suppress an equally damning U.N. expert panel report on Iran.

The spokesman for China's U.N. mission was not available for comment.

SIMILAR WARHEADS

Further evidence of Iran's cooperation with North Korea on missile technology came during a military parade in October 2010, the report said, when North Korea displayed a new warhead for its Nodong missile.

The warhead had "a strong design similarity with the Iranian Shahab-3 triconic warhead."

The expert panel said there appeared to be no compelling evidence that Myanmar had been developing a secret nuclear program with the help of North Korea, an allegation that had been raised previously by the group.

But it did not dismiss the allegations and suggested "extreme caution" might be needed to prevent North Korean-Myanmar cooperation from becoming proliferation.

The allegations are due partly to attempts by the former Burma to acquire items that can be used in a nuclear program.

"While acknowledging the possibility that Myanmar was the end user of this dual-use equipment, several experts also raised the possibility that it was serving as a trans-shipment point for delivery to (North Korea)," the report said.

The report said the possibility of exports of weapons-grade nuclear material from North Korea or nuclear technology to other countries remained a concern and presented "new challenges to international non-proliferation efforts."

U.S., Israeli and European governments have said that North Korea was helping Syria build a nuclear reactor that Israel destroyed in 2007. Damascus denies the charge, which is being investigated by the U.N. nuclear watchdog.

In its report, the panel said North Korea's uranium enrichment problem, which Pyongyang says is for civilian purposes, was "primarily for military purposes."

It added that North Korea "should be compelled to abandon its uranium enrichment program and that all aspects of the program should be placed under international monitoring."

The report also said there were concerns about safety at North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear complex. It said "safety issues should be discussed an integral part of the denuclearization of (North Korea)."

It added that "reckless decommissioning or dismantlement at Yongbyon could cause an environmental disaster."

(Reporting by Louis Charbonneau; Editing by Laura MacInnis and Peter Cooney)
 
Reminds me of WWII and Hitler. If just, what, six people rose up and sacrificed themselves to kill the Kim So Mentally Ill clan, N. Korea would change.

Easy to have a reign of terror when everyone is well, scared.

Give me liberty.
 
anyone said:
Easy to have a reign of terror when everyone is well, scared.

I'm not too sure about that.

Kim Jong Il's cult of personality is solely out of respect for Kim Il-sung or out of fear of punishment for failure to pay homage. Media and government sources from outside of North Korea generally support this view, while North Korean government sources say that it is genuine hero worship. The song "No Motherland Without You", sung by the KPA State Merited Choir, was created especially for Kim in 1992 and is one of the most popular tunes in the country.    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il

Well.....that's strange eh


anyone said:
Give me liberty.

You mean like this guy  ;D

Kim Il-Sung (Communist Dictator)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXAkGjSuCPw

 
The DPRK has managed to create a virtual bubble in which all discourse must take place. This essay about a "preference cascade" suggests that efforts to break the bubble (through a multiplicity of means, everything from airdropping solar powered radios to distributing Samisdat, to use two simple examples) will have far more powerful results than attempts to destroy the Kim family. On the other hand, it is unclear just where the preference cascade will end, the normal result is chaos and the "Man on the White Horse" who promises to re establish order:

http://www.ideasinactiontv.com/tcs_daily/2002/03/patriotism-and-preferences.html

Patriotism and Preferences
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By Glenn Harlan Reynolds - March 13, 2002 12:00 AM

Everyone seems to be amazed that the flags are still up, six months after the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. Have Americans suddenly become more patriotic?

Probably not. More likely, they always have been - they just didn't realize that it was okay to show it.

The muting of open patriotism after the Vietnam era may have been a case of what social scientists call "preference falsification": One in which social pressures cause people to express sentiments that differ from those they really feel. As social scientist Timur Kuran noted in his 1995 book Private Truths, Public Lies, there are all sorts of reasons, good and bad, that lead people not to show how they truly feel. People tend to read social signals about what is approved and what is disapproved behavior and, in general, to modify their conduct accordingly. Others then rely on this behavior to draw wrong conclusions about what people think, and allow those conclusions to shape their own actions.

Oh, not always - and there are always rebels (though often social "rebels" are really just conforming to a different standard). But when patriotism began to be treated as uncool, people who wanted to be cool, or at least to seem cool, stopped demonstrating patriotism, even if they felt it.

When this happened, other people were influenced by the example. In what's known as a "preference cascade," the vanishing of flags and other signs of patriotism from the homes, cars and businesses of the style-setters caused a lot of other people to go along with the trend, perhaps without even fully realizing it, a trend that only strengthened with the politicization of flag displays in several 1980s political campaigns.

The result was a situation in which a lot of people's behavior didn't really match their beliefs, but merely their beliefs about what was considered acceptable. Such situations are unstable, since a variety of shocks can cause people to realize the difference and to suddenly feel comfortable about closing the gap.

That's what the September 11 attacks did. This time last year, you didn't see many American flags on cars in my faculty parking garage. The people who didn't have them on their cars weren't necessarily unpatriotic - but displaying a flag on one's car was associated with particular political and social categories that aren't especially popular on campuses. After 9/11,enough people started flying flags to make other people feel safe about doing it too. Now you can see a lot of flags on the cars in that garage. Have people become more patriotic? Maybe. But more likely they've just become more willing to show it.

This illustrates, in a mild way, the reason why totalitarian regimes collapse so suddenly. (Click here for a more complex analysis of this and related issues). Such regimes have little legitimacy, but they spend a lot of effort making sure that citizens don't realize the extent to which their fellow-citizens dislike the regime. If the secret police and the censors are doing their job, 99% of the populace can hate the regime and be ready to revolt against it - but no revolt will occur because no one realizes that everyone else feels the same way.

This works until something breaks the spell, and the discontented realize that their feelings are widely shared, at which point the collapse of the regime may seem very sudden to outside observers - or even to the citizens themselves. Claims after the fact that many people who seemed like loyal apparatchiks really loathed the regime are often self-serving, of course. But they're also often true: Even if one loathes the regime, few people have the force of will to stage one-man revolutions, and when preferences are sufficiently falsified, each dissident may feel that he or she is the only one, or at least part of a minority too small to make any difference.

One interesting question is whether a lot of the hardline Arab states are like this. Places like Iraq, Syria, or Saudi Arabia spend a lot of time telling their citizens that everyone feels a particular way, and punishing those who dare to differ, which has the effect of encouraging people to falsify their preferences. But who knows? Given the right trigger, those brittle authoritarian regimes might collapse overnight, with most of the population swearing - with all apparent sincerity - that it had never supported them, or their anti-Western policies, at all.

Perhaps we should think about how to make it so.
 
Chosun link

"N.Korea's New Hovercraft Base Near Completion North Korea has nearly completed a hovercraft base in Koampo, Hwanghae Province, only some 50 km from South Korea's northwesternmost islands. The North is expected to put it into full operation next month.

A South Korean government source said Sunday the large base in Koampo is "near completion." "We found out that the North built about 60 hangar-like berths where hovercraft and stealth air-cushion warships can be kept safely," he added.

South Korean and U.S. intelligence agencies believe the North will begin deploying the ships at the base next month. The berths are reportedly sturdy reinforced concrete structures that look like fighter plane hangars so they can protect the boats from South Korean and U.S. bombardment.

The North has about 130 hovercraft, and the new base can accommodate about half. So far the North's main hovercraft base on the west coast is more than 300 km from South Korea's northwesternmost islands.


It would therefore take North Korean commandos four hours to launch an attack on the islands. But once the Koampo base is in operation, it will take a mere 30 to 40 minutes. That means they could land on the islands before South Korean attack aircraft or helicopters that would be scrambled from their inland bases.

The North's hovercraft can travel on mudflats along the west coast at a speed of 74-96 km/h, carrying a platoon of 30 to 50 personnel. Sixty of them could therefore carry a force of up to 3,000 commandos for a surprise attack on the islands.

In response, the South Korean military plans to deploy several 500MD attack helicopters armed with rockets and machine guns on the islands in the near future, first of all. And since the choppers have difficulty maneuvering at night or in bad weather, the Air Force's KA-1 light attack aircraft and the Army's AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters will also be deployed to deter the North Korean hovercraft. The military also plans to buy 36 AH-64 Apache attack helicopters."
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Just a reminder while our attention is currently fixated on the Arab "spring", Libya and Afghanistan there are still lots of flashpoints (part 1):

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After 61 Years, Korean War Offers Modern Lessons
Posted By Dan Miller On June 25, 2011 @ 5:26 pm In Koreas,Middle East,Uncategorized,US News | 29 Comments

Sixty-one years ago, on June 25, 1950, North Korea “unexpectedly” invaded South Korea. As we remember our many military personnel who gave their lives during the conflict, we might also think about the reasons it happened and perhaps as well about how to diminish the likelihood of another, in Korea and elsewhere.

The events leading up to the invasion are now ancient history and so are little considered in evaluating current events. That is unfortunate. Stalin, Mao, and Kim il-Sung are dead but their spirits survive and continue to haunt us; we also have others with whom to contend, principally in the Arab lands.

China and Russia are quite different now than they were in 1950, although the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) remains an enigma — headed for now by Kim Jong-il with an apparent but not certain successor in his son, Kim Jong-un. The course of the succession may not be smooth and that can lead to mischief. So can the DPRK’s miserable economic [1] situation coupled with her probable nuclear capability and general weirdness.

Many documents became available during the “global warming” of relations among the United States, the Soviet Union, and China. Many if not most have been translated and studied by scholars. They show that North Korea’s Kim il-Sung had wanted to reunify the Korean Peninsula through force since 1948 but that Stalin had resisted until he became convinced that it would work, very quickly. He then provided substantial military assistance. China’s Mao was not generally consulted during the period leading up to the invasion. He eventually was and agreed to it despite his greater interest in invading Taiwan, which Stalin had pragmatically discouraged. In the end China bore the brunt, not of the initial invasion but when the United States and Republic of Korea (ROK) forces retaliated by pushing into North Korea and soon reaching the Chinese border.

During the two years leading up to the North Korean invasion, Kim il-Sung spent much time in the Soviet Union attempting to persuade Stalin of the benefits of an invasion. It has been claimed [2] that in 1949 Stalin began to have substantial concerns about an attack on North Korea from the South:

[W]hile Stalin tried to prevent a war in Korea in 1949, the North Korean leadership increasingly put pressure on the Kremlin, demanding permission to liberate the South. On 7 March 1949, while talking to Stalin in Moscow, Kim il-Sung said: “We believe that the situation makes it necessary and possible to liberate the whole country through military means.” The Soviet leader disagreed, citing the military weakness of the North, the USSR-USA agreement on the 38th parallel and the possibility of American intervention.

Stalin added that only if the adversary attacked Pyongyang, North Korea could they try military unification by launching a counter attack. Then the Kremlin chief explained, “your move will be understood and supported by everyone.” (emphasis in original)

Circumstances changed and it was soon agreed that a falsely claimed invasion by the South would serve as a useful pretext for invasion by the North.

It seems that Stalin considered any improvement in U.S – China relations as very dangerous for Russia [3], potentially ruining his strategic calculations. A takeover of the South by the North would further establish a distance between the East and the West as well as perpetuate China’s dependence on the USSR. It would also be of use to the Soviet Union in the event of World War III. Nevertheless, Stalin remained to be persuaded that the North could win a quick victory and that there would be no U.S. involvement. When Kim il-Sung secretly visited Moscow between March 30 and April 25, he assured Stalin that his attack would succeed in three days: there would be an uprising by some two hundred thousand party members and he was convinced that the United States would not intervene. A speech by Secretary of State Dean Acheson on January 12, 1950, was persuasive evidence. There, Secretary Acheson had omitted South Korea from a list of nations which the United States would defend if attacked. Stalin gave the go-ahead.

Although Stalin caved in to Kim’s pleas for permission to attack, he insisted on thorough preparation. Contemporaneously, there were exchanges of cables between Moscow and Beijing. They did not mention that Stalin had given his approval to the invasion. Stalin viewed the largely urban Communist situation in the USSR as different from and superior to the more rural Communist situation in China and had no desire for China to butt in:

Stalin . . . wanted to work out the plans for the Korean war himself without Chinese interference and objections and then present Beijing with a fait accompli when Mao would have no choice but to agree with the invasion and assist it. While in Moscow Mao insisted on the liberation of Taiwan. Stalin was negative to the idea. It would be hard for Stalin to convince Mao in Moscow to help the Koreans before the Chinese had completed the reunification of their own country.

Although Kim visited Beijing about a month before the June 25 invasion, it was more to inform Mao of what was about to happen than to solicit assistance. Mao had Taiwan to worry about and war in Korea was already inevitable. Mao gave his blessing, for what it might be worth.

Stalin’s role, unlike Mao’s, [3] was quite significant at first:

Stalin’s decisive backing for Kim was shown in two ways. First, as soon as Kim returned from Moscow, Soviet weapons “in huge numbers” began arriving at the North Korean port of Chongyin, barely a day’s sailing from Vladivostok. Second, and at about the same time a new team of Soviet military advisors, including at least three major-generals with combat experience, arrived in Pyongyang to oversee the preparations for war. Pyongyang’s military manpower problems had already been solved for, early in 1950, Mao had arranged for the transfer to North Korea of some fifteen thousand ethnic, battle-hardened Koreans who had fought in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. These troops followed two earlier divisions of Koreans sent from China in 1949.

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The draft operational plan was written by the Soviet advisors and termed a “counterattack plan” using the tension along the 38th Parallel as a pretext for war. The nomenclature of a counterattack plan, according to one former senior North Korean general, was “a fake, disinformation to cover ourselves.” The Soviet advisors evidently accepted Kim’s belief in a southern uprising, for formal military operations were only expected to last three or four days with the capture of Seoul. Total victory was then expected in less than a month. Kim personally set the timing for the invasion at 0400 hours on Sunday, June 25, 1950 but his Soviet advisors were closely involved in this aspect of the planning as well.

The decision to attack [4] had been made and it came on June 25. Seoul fell within three days as Kim il-Sung had anticipated; however, the popular uprisings did not occur. President Truman decided almost immediately to intervene, Secretary Acheson’s speech notwithstanding. The United States had little difficulty in persuading the UN Security Council to condemn the invasion and to urge that the U.S. be assisted by at least minimal numbers of international forces, which happened. Russia could easily have vetoed this but did not; it was too busy boycotting the Security Council on account of its refusal to seat mainland China in place of Taiwan (that did not happen until October of 1971). Might this have been a ploy to make sure that China would soon be kept busy with Korea and in line with Stalin’s world game plan? Stalin was a clever rascal; he could have given lessons to Machiavelli:

Mao, who had been marginalized in the final decision-making, quickly realized the implications of [the unanticipated] American intervention. As early as July 7, two days after the first clash between American and North Korean forces at Osan, Premier Zhou Enlai called a special meeting of the Chinese Central Military Commission to assess Chinese options in the conflict. So began the process through which China, not the Soviet Union, paid the major price for Kim and Stalin’s decision to launch the war.

On September 15, 1950, General MacArthur mounted his extraordinarily risky but also extraordinarily successful landing at KNPA occupied Inchon [5]. To get to Inchon by sea from the port at Pusan, still under South Korean control and located on the south eastern coast, was a hairy adventure. Invasion by sea was the only possibility because the NKPA controlled most of the country to the north of Pusan. Perhaps the most problematic aspect was navigation of warships through the shallow and in some places narrow Flying Fish Channel, passing islands perhaps occupied by North Korean People’s Army (NKPA) troops. The tides there varied by more than thirty feet and, except at the highest of high tides, passage of an invasion fleet would be impossible. Had the invasion not succeeded in passing through the channel on September 15, the date of the highest tides, it would have had to be delayed for about a month; by then it might well be expected. Surprise played a major part in the success of the September 15th invasion. Seoul was quickly retaken and the U.S. and ROK forces reclaimed all of South Korea with the NKPA forces fleeing back north. All looked rosy. General MacArthur announced that the U.S. forces would be home by Christmas; it did not happen that way.

President Truman authorized General MacArthur to go north of the 38th Parallel but cautioned alertness for indications of the entry of China or Russia into the war. Korea was seen as part of the fight against world Communism and as possibly the first skirmish in a Third World War. General MacArthur’s troops promptly moved north. The Eighth Army headed up the west coast to the Yalu River while the X Corps made amphibious landings at Wonson and Iwon on the east coast and proceeded to the border with China. The war seemed to be nearly over. It was not.

There had been signals from China [6] that she would send troops should any forces other than South Korean cross the 38th Parallel. However, China was being isolated politically and a warning she attempted to relay through Indian diplomatic channels was ignored. General MacArthur disregarded the risks and plunged ahead:

The best time for [Chinese] intervention was past, they said, and even if the Chinese decided to intervene, allied air power and firepower would cripple their ability to move or resupply their forces. The opinion of many military observers, some of whom had helped train the Chinese to fight against the Japanese in World War II, was that the huge infantry forces that could be put in the field would be poorly equipped, poorly led, and abysmally supplied. These “experts” failed to give full due to the revolutionary zeal and military experience of many of the Chinese soldiers that had been redeployed to the Korean border area. Many of the soldiers were confident veterans of the successful civil war against the Nationalist Chinese forces. Although these forces were indeed poorly supplied, they were highly motivated, battle hardened, and led by officers who were veterans, in some cases, of twenty years of nearly constant war.
 
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General MacArthur was indisputably a military genius, as most recently demonstrated by his very chancy but highly successful Inchon invasion which had generally been opposed by the military establishment in Washington. However, he had an unfortunate tendency to rely heavily on staff officers (the “Bataan Gang,” members of which had been with him in World War II’s Pacific theater) who told him what he wanted to hear and reinforced his sometimes faulty views. General Charles Andrew Willoughby, General MacArthur’s G2 (chief of intelligence), was among them. He tended to tell General MacArthur things and, when General MacArthur accepted them, to provide no contradictory information. While often comforting, “yes men” are less valuable than officers who provide fresh information inconsistent with what they had previously provided. The same is true with presidents. There was apparently also a focus on expecting the USSR, China, and North Korea to behave “rationally” and a tendency to neglect aspects of their ideology and culture. What seems reasonable to the leader of a free people is often very different from what seems reasonable to a dictator far more interested in preserving and enhancing his own position. These factors must be kept constantly in mind in an incipient Korean — or any other — conflict, including in the Arab lands. Neither the United States nor the USSR, China nor North Korea had crystal balls and all had ideologies to consider. The fog of war limited the vision of all, something quite common. The problems went beyond that.

The massive Chinese intervention [6] came very soon after the Inchon invasion, on November 1, 1950, and things did not go well; for a while, the U.S. and ROK forces were routed:

[T]hey came out of the hills near Unsan, North Korea, blowing bugles in the dying light of day on 1 November 1950, throwing grenades and firing their “burp” guns at the surprised American soldiers of the 8th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division. Those who survived the initial assaults reported how shaken the spectacle of massed Chinese infantry had left them. Thousands of Chinese had attacked from the north, northwest, and west against scattered U.S. and South Korean (Republic of Korea or ROK) units moving deep into North Korea. The Chinese seemed to come out of nowhere as they swarmed around the flanks and over the defensive positions of the surprised United Nations (UN) troops. Within hours the ROK 15th Regiment on the 8th Cavalry’s right flank collapsed, while the 1st and 2d Battalions of the 8th Cavalry fell back in disarray into the city of Unsan. By morning, with their positions being overrun and their guns falling silent, the men of the 8th Cavalry tried to withdraw, but a Chinese roadblock to their rear forced them to abandon their artillery, and the men took to the hills in small groups. Only a few scattered survivors made it back to tell their story. The remaining battalion of the 8th Cavalry, the 3d, was hit early in the morning of 2 November with the same “human wave” assaults of bugle-blowing Chinese. In the confusion, one company-size Chinese element was mistaken for South Koreans and allowed to pass a critical bridge near the battalion command post (CP). Once over the bridge, the enemy commander blew his bugle, and the Chinese, throwing satchel charges and grenades, overran the CP.

It became a bitter and bloody retreat through and between snow covered mountains in sub-freezing temperatures for which many troops had not been provided adequate cold weather gear. In April of 1951, General Ridgway replaced General MacArthur, who had different views on how to conduct military operations than did many in the Pentagon and, of greater importance, than did President Truman. At times, General MacArthur appeared to be confused over who was the commander in chief. Changes in command during time of war can be dangerous. They had already become so five months before, with the massive Chinese intervention.

In August of 1951 [7], a year and two months after the invasion and about one year after the Chinese push into North Korea from the Yalu had begun,

General Ridgway’s headquarters in Tokyo put out a statement designed to show a cleavage between Moscow and Peking. Russia, said the statement, had inveigled the Chinese into the Korean war in order “to slash the strength of China … because a strong China on Russia’s southern frontier is the Kremlin’s nightmare. … China fought and bled while Russia looked on. To Mao Tse-tung this could hardly look like bosom comradeship. … It may mean China eventually goes the way of Yugoslavia. … The Reds have been so busy looking for cracks in the structure of the democracies they have not noticed the perch they are sitting on is swaying and slowly crumbling. … They cannot survive.”

General Ridgway had replaced General MacArthur only a few months previously and this may have been little more than wishful thinking.

The retreat from the Yalu was difficult and bloody, with much loss of life. The conflict ended in a truce, still in existence although of dubious meaning, with the border between the ROK and North Korea drawn pretty much along the thirty-eighth parallel with some islands to the north of it desired by the DPRK.

North Korea is not our friend, and neither are China and Russia [8]. They tend to look out exclusively for their own peculiar interests as they perceive them [9] and will do whatever it takes to advance them. If the Obama administration fails to recognize these things, and to act on the basis of them, we, South Korea, and many others as well are in for very substantial problems. Indeed, they are upon us with the recent provocative attacks [10] by North Korea on the South.

In many respects, things are even more complicated and less fully understood now than during the lead up to the 1950 Korean Conflict. Then, we had few insights into what might be happening in the “Hermit Kingdom” of North Korea; that remains the case. Then, many seemed to recognize clearly that North Korea, China, and Russia were our enemies; fewer now seem to have that clear a perception as to Russia and China. Additionally, China has developed quite dramatically as a world economic power, transcending Russia; she is a, if not the, principal banker to the United States. She also supplies much of the “cheap stuff” desired by American consumers and many others. In consequence, the United States has become far more subservient to her than ever before.

As other things have changed, North Korea has become an increasing threat internationally with her trade in offensive military material with Iran and others. There are also problems, current and incipient, in much of the Arab world and we seem to have few insights into how to deal with them to our best advantage. We are at sea in Libya and Egypt can become a major problem with the ascendency of the Muslim Brotherhood. We now have a new secretary of defense and our president, principally for political purposes, is reducing our presence in Afghanistan.

As to Korea, much unfortunately depends on China and on our increasing subservience to her. If North Korea initiates a real war — perhaps by directing missile attacks against Seoul and her millions of residents — the likely response of China is unknown and perhaps even unpredictable, beyond that she will do whatever she sees as in her own best interests, defined as the interests of her rulers. Her response cannot be assumed to be what we would consider rational because China’s response will be a function of (a) how she perceives the precipitating events and of even greater importance (b) what the Chinese leaders consider their own best interests. I have very attenuated confidence that the folks at the State Department and elsewhere who are supposed to be watching the situation have many useful clues as to that sort of thing.

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[1] miserable economic: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/happy-birthday-dear-leader-kim-jong-il/?singlepage=true
[2] claimed: http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Korean_War.html
[3] very dangerous for Russia: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_n42/ai_17839923/pg_2/?tag=content;col1
[4] decision to attack: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_n42/ai_17839923/
[5] Inchon: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/kowar/50-unof/inchon.htm
[6] signals from China: http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/kw-chinter/chinter.htm
[7] August of 1951: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,889173-1,00.html
[8] Russia: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/28/wikileaked_cable_from_bob_gates_russian_democracy_has_disappeared
[9] they perceive them: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-does-koreas-chaos-portend-for-the-united-states/?singlepage=true
[10] recent provocative attacks: http://opinion-forum.com/index/2010/12/the-past-is-prologue/opinion-forum.com/index/2010/11/the-korean-situation-is-highly-complex-and-difficult/
 
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The Independent/ 29 Jun/ AP
North Korea threatens 'sacred war' against South
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-threatens-sacred-war-against-south-2304197.html

North Korea threatened today to launch a "sacred war" against South Korea even as a delegation from Seoul travelled across the countries' heavily fortified border for a meeting on a stalled joint tourism project.

A North Korean government spokesman accused front-line South Korean army units of setting up "virulent" signs that slander North Korea and of inciting "extreme hostility" toward Pyongyang.

"This is little short of a clear declaration of war," the unidentified spokesman said in comments carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency.

"We will react to the enemy's provocation with a stern punishment and counter its war with a merciless retaliatory sacred war."

The threat came one day after South Korea's Hankyoreh newspaper reported that some South Korean army units near the border had set up anti-North Korea slogans in the wake of two deadly attacks blamed on North Korea last year.

The newspaper carried a photo showing a banner reading "Let's ram guns and swords into the chests of North Korean puppet soldiers!" hanging over the entrance of one army unit in Cheolwon, a town near the central portion of the demilitarised zone separating North and South Korea.

The newspaper said the unit also wrote on its walls such signs as Let's hack the three Kims into pieces, a reference to late North Korea founder Kim Il Sung, his son and current leader Kim Jong Il, and grandson and heir-apparent Kim Jong Un.

South Korea's Defence Ministry confirmed the substance of the report, saying some army units have taken such measures to bolster their soldiers' mental toughness against North Korea.

The two Koreas are technically still at war because their 1950s conflict ended with a cease-fire, not a peace treaty.

North Korea's threat to attack South Korea is only the latest in a series of warnings and hostile statements from Pyongyang aimed at the conservative government of South Korean President Lee Myung-bak.

It comes as the two Koreas were to meet to discuss North Korea's seizure of South Korean assets at the North's scenic Diamond Mountain.

Joint tours to the mountain were suspended in 2008 following the shooting death of a South Korean tourist. North Korea later confiscated or shut down South Korean-owned buildings and other facilities there.

A group of South Korean officials and business leaders crossed the border and headed to the mountain for talks hours after the North's threat, according to Seoul's Unification Ministry.

Animosities between the Koreas have deepened since North Korea allegedly torpedoed a South Korean warship in March last year. The North also shelled a South Korean border island in November. A total of 50 South Koreans were killed.
 
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The Independent/ 29 Jun/ AP
North Korea threatens 'sacred war' against South
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-threatens-sacred-war-against-south-2304197.html

North Korea threatened today to launch a "sacred war" against South Korea even as a delegation from Seoul travelled across the countries' heavily fortified border for a meeting on a stalled joint tourism project.

A North Korean government spokesman accused front-line South Korean army units of setting up "virulent" signs that slander North Korea and of inciting "extreme hostility" toward Pyongyang.

"This is little short of a clear declaration of war," the unidentified spokesman said in comments carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency ...."
Full statement via Korean Central News Agency of DPRK here - full screen capture also attached if link doesn't work.
 
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/world/archives/2011/06/20110630-115855.html

OTTAWA -- Canada has called on North Korea to step aside after it gained the chairmanship of the UN Conference on Disarmament based in Geneva.

"North Korea is simply not a credible chair of a disarmament body," Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said in a statement Thursday. "We call on North Korea to pass the chair on to a credible country that will advance the disarmament agenda within the UN."

Baird also confirmed Canada will review its participation in the conference.

North Korea is known as an international threat for its drive to develop nuclear weapons and its hostility to both South Korea and western democracies.



Everytime I read about UN appointments, I need to shake my head..
 
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By Agence France-Presse, Updated: 9/2/2011
North Korea seeks adventurous tourists for cruise

It has karaoke and fresh coffee, but the bathrooms on the lower decks are out of water and some guests sleep on the floor. Welcome aboard North Korea's first cruise ship.


North Korea seeks adventurous tourists for cruise
Keen to boost tourism and earn much-needed cash, authorities in the impoverished nation have decided to launch a cruise tour from the rundown northeastern port city of Rajin to the scenic resort of Mount Kumgang.

In a highly unusual move, the reclusive regime invited more than 120 journalists and Chinese tour operators on board the newly-renovated, 39-year-old Man Gyong Bong ship for a trial run of the 21-hour journey.

The vessel left one of Rajin's ageing piers on Tuesday to the sound of rousing music, as hundreds of students and workers holding colourful flowers stood in line and clapped in unison.

"The boat was only renovated one week ago," said Hwang Chol Nam, vice mayor of the Rason special economic zone, as he sat on the top deck at a table filled with bottles of North Korean beer, a large plate of fruit, and egg and seafood dishes.

"But it has already made the trip to Mount Kumgang and back. I told people to test the ship to make sure it was safe," said the 48-year-old, dressed in a crisp suit adorned with a red pin sporting late leader Kim Il-Sung's portrait.

The project is the brainchild of North Korea's Taepung International Investment Group and the government of Rason, a triangular coastal area in the northeast that encompasses Rajin and Sonbong cities, and borders China and Russia.

Set up as a special economic zone in 1991 to attract investment to North Korea, it never took off due to poor infrastructure, chronic power shortages and a lack of confidence in the reclusive regime
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Now though, authorities are trying to revive the area as the North's economy falters under the weight of international sanctions imposed over the regime's pursuit of ballistic missiles and atomic weapons.

The country is desperately poor after decades of isolation and bungled economic policies, and is grappling with persistent food shortages.

In Rason, Hwang said authorities had decided to focus on three areas of growth -- cargo trade, seafood processing and tourism.

North Korea has only been open to Western tourists since 1987 and remains tightly controlled, but more destinations are gradually opening up to tour groups keen to see the country for themselves.

Mount Kumgang, though, is at the heart of a political dispute between North and South Korea after a tourist from the South was shot dead by a North Korean soldier in 2008.

And Rason, where the cruise begins, is a poor area. The tours are tightly monitored, and the only brief contact with locals is with guides, tourist shop owners and hotel employees.

Visitors can expect only brief glimpses of everyday life through the windows of tour buses, as locals -- many dressed in monochrome clothing -- cycle past or drive the occasional car in otherwise quiet streets.

Small apartment blocks, many of them run down, are interspersed with monuments to the glory of the country's leaders.

A portrait of current leader Kim Jong-Il and his late father Kim Il-Sung greets visitors as they walk through the vast lobby of the large, white hotel in Rajin.

"The book is a silent teacher and a companion to life," reads a quotation from the late Kim, hung over glass cases full of books about North Korea, with titles like "The Great Man Kim Jong-Il" and "Korea -- a trailblazer."

The rooms are spartan but clean. But there is no Internet connection anywhere in the area, and the phone lines are unreliable and expensive. Foreign mobile phones are confiscated by tour guides as travellers enter the country.

Hwang said the government in Rason was trying to address communication problems and had signed a 26-year exclusive agreement with a Thai firm to set up Internet in the area, which he hoped would be running in September.

He acknowledged, however, that non-business related websites would likely be blocked, with the media tightly controlled in North Korea.

Many of Rason's tourists come from neighbouring China. The area sees an average of 150 travellers from China every day during the summer peak season.

One Chinese national from the southeastern province of Fujian who gave only his surname, Li, said he had come to North Korea after a business meeting on the Chinese side of the border.

"We've come here mainly to see what changes there have been compared to our country... I like to go to places I've never been to before," he said, standing in front of a huge portrait of Kim Il-Sung.

Simon Cockerell, managing director of Koryo Group, a Beijing-based firm that specialises in tours to North Korea, conceded that Rason may not be everyone's idea of a holiday, but said its attraction lay in the unknown.

"A lot of people like going to obscure places. And this is the most obscure part of a very obscure country in tourism terms -- the least visited part of the least visited country," he said.

Back on the boat, Chinese tour operators sang karaoke in a dining hall decked out with North Korean flags as a waitress made fresh coffee, while guests drank beer and ate dried fish at plastic tables up on deck.

Inside, some cabins were decked out with bunk beds, while others just had mattresses laid out on the floor. The better rooms had tables, chairs and private washrooms.

Water in bathrooms on the vessel -- used as a ferry between North Korea and Japan until 1992 when it started shipping cargo -- was unreliable and when available, was brown.

But Park Chol Su, vice president of Taepung, said he had big plans for the tour if it attracted enough visitors.

He wants to invite more than 100 tourist agencies from Europe in October to sample the same trip, in a bid to attract travellers from further afield.

Authorities have promised no visas will be needed to go on the cruise and, if all goes to plan, the ship will be upgraded to a more comfortable one.

"Next year, we aim to get a bigger, nicer boat that can accommodate 1,000 people. We'd rent that from another country in Southeast Asia," he said.
 
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