Name This Photo!!! - The AFV Recognition Thread

[chanman]

Getting much closer.  However, still not there yet.

Hint: Count the roadwheels

 

[McG]

T-64 (though it has the same number of wheels as previous tanks & spacing is not visible in your picture)

 

[stegner]

I also retract my post.  Yikes.

 

[McG]

Found it.  BMT-72

 

[McG]

The BMT-72 is based on the T-72 MBT and is actually a comprehensive transformation.  The unique compact design of the Ukrainian-developed tank diesel engines made it possible not only to considerably increase the power capabilities of the vehicle, but also to introduce into the vehicle design a troop compartment.  The troop compartment is located between the fighting compartment and the power pack compartment. In the troop compartment roof there are hatches that allow the troops to get in or dismount the vehicle.  The BMT-72 power pack is based on that of the T-84 MBT.

 

[stegner]

YAY! :cheers:

 

[chanman]

Found it.  BMT-72

You got it!

I was about to post up a second picture.

http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/bmt72.php?page=def5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJPU5DltmM

A hybrid MBT/IFV based on the T-72 and using the T-84's powerpack.  Similar idea to the (also Ukrainian) BTMP-84 which is based on the T-80/T-84 instead.

http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/btmp.php


Off Topic, but any thoughts on how good or bad an idea this is?

 

[geo]

I have a problem with an AFV with infantrymen/grenadiers having to clamber in and out through the cieling mounted hatches.  Remember well enough trying to clamber out of the Crew commander's hatch of our trusty M113/TLAVs t'was a real pain....

 

[McG]

and on to the next event

 

[ironduke57]

Chinese Type 70-1

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[McG]

Chinese Type 70-1

Close, but no.

 

[ironduke57]

I am quite sure that it is the Type 70-1. Type 54-1 has only 4 roadwheels as its base the Type 63 APC.

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[Blackadder1916]

I agree.  Type 70 (aka WZ302) http://www.sinodefence.com/army/artillery/type70sp_122mm.asp


(edited to add) or were you looking for Type 70-2 as it is identified on jed.

 

[larry Strong]

Type 63 Tracked APC

The PLA has developed a number of variants based on the Type 63, including the YW701 armoured command post and YW750 armoured ambulance. Additionally, the PLA has experimented to marry the vehicle with various artillery systems to provide self-propelled (SP) artillery weapon systems. The first attempt is the Type 70 122mm SP howitzer developed from the towed Type 54-1 122mm howitzer. The design was proved to be not entirely successful and only a small number (~200) was ever built. Another example is the Type 70 19-tube 130mm SP multiple rocket launcher (MRL), which was seen in action during the 1979 Sino-Vietnam border conflict.

 

[McG]

I am quite sure that it is the Type 70-1.

It would seem you are correct that road wheels match the YW 534 .  However, the shape of the hull is (particularly the bluntness of the glacius) is YW 531.

It would seem that depending on your source, this vehicle in my picture is alternately labeled ...
Type 54: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/type-54-sph.htm or
Type 70: http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack-tango/tango-type/type-85_series/type-70-2/type702-intro.html

Jane's confirms that even Type 70 is built on YW 531: The first model (WZ 302 or Type 70) was based on the chassis of the Type B531 and still fitted with only four road wheels. The WZ 302A (also known as the Type 70-1) and the WZ 302B (also known as Type 70-2) have the longer chassis of the YW 531H but with the old diesel engine and with the commander's position front right. The WZ designator indicates that this was only built for the PLA.

Of note, Jane's does not have an article on the type 54-1 SPH, but at a few points within the Type 70 SPH article it describes it as "type 54-1" and at one pont mentions the "Type 54-1/Type 70-1."  There is also mention of a Type 70-2.  Both the -1 and -2 variants are described as being based on the YW 531H.

This leads me to believe that, despite mention of the Type 54 SPH on FAS & Jed, that Type 54 SPH is Type 70 SPH with the name of the gun (Type 54-1) mistakenly used as the name of the system.

ironduke57,
You are up.

 

[ironduke57]

What´s this? ;D

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[OldSolduer]

RBV BG
Really Big Vehicle Big Gun

 

[McG]

http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/threads/48893/post-719842.html#msg719842

 

[geo]

Huh ???
Are we into reruns ? 

 

[BernDawg]

Well it is summer after all.