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Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]

Koach said:
The average time for a medical to come back from Borden is 3 weeks depending on how busy they are.

3 Weeks, where are you doing processing, Borden?

You are right about the delays, if they're busy it takes a while.
 
pi-r-squared said:
In short, one would not be put to the selection board unless after receiving clearance from the med staff?

Yes, that is what I have been told repeatedly from the CFRC.
 
the Doc at the CF RC said that he found nothing wrong with me and that he recommended Immediate enrollment, will this speed up my file at Borden? and are they still backed up 8 weeks as mentioned in a previous rep;y?
 
aspiring_recruit said:
the Doc at the CF RC said that he found nothing wrong with me and that he recommended Immediate enrollment, will this speed up my file at Borden? and are they still backed up 8 weeks as mentioned in a previous rep;y?

If the "Doc" at CFRC is recommending immediate enrollment, you're joining a Res Unit.  For Reserves, any one whom applied AFTER 1 Jun 04, is eligible for "conditional" enrollment, pending a successful competion of PT 1 and 2 of the medical.  Unfortunately, reg force apps must complete all 3 parts prior to enrollment.

If a reserve medical (post 1 Jun 04) has been sent away to RMO, a problem has arisen in PT 1 or 2 and requires a decision by the Recruiting Med O in Borden.  Unfortunately again, he is swamped with files.
 
Militia NCMs don't go to the selection boards.  It's up to the CO of the unit to hire the applicant.
 
I was told to wait 2 months for medical too.  Am I notified when the medical review is finished?
 
Looking for answers in regards to a letter i received from Ottawa today.

During my medical evaluation in Edmonton I honestly mentioned that in the past i have sustained ankle and shoulder injuries from rugby. Both of these injuries are now over 5 years old and do not in any way effect me physically.  I passed my fitness test with the instructor commenting that i performed extremely well (i'm a female applicant), and also passed the recruiting medical. 

Today i received a letter from the Recruiting medical officer in Ottawa stating that because of the above mentioned injuries I do not meet the common enrolment standard and medical limitations have been assigned, meaning I'm not eligable for reg or reserve forces.  I provided documentation earlier from my family doctor stating that i was physically fit and able and am now wondering where I go from here. 

Of course my career counsellor doesn't answer his phone and I haven't been able to speak to him yet, but I was wondering if anyone knows the procedure for something like this?  I know I am fit and do meet the standard, is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
 
Go and talk to the PA or Med Tech that did your recruiting medical.   They can tell you if you have any recourse and sometimes the letter tells you if there is any recourse.   Your MCC can't help you so stop trying to contact him/her because until you meet the enrolment medical standards there is nothing they can do for you.. The physical is only part of the eligibility criteria along with the medical, CFAT, and background check.
 
THANK YOU  Kincanuck for the information, greatly appreciated.

Would you happen to know if I can appeal medical limitations as an applicant?  My concern is that because the recruiting medical officer in Ottawa is an actual physician and the medical officer who performed my evaluation in Edmonton is not, that this letter may be a final decision as it makes no mention of appeal.  I understand that I should just ask these questions directly with the medic at the recruiting office, but the more i know before i go down there, the better equipped i will be to deal with what they have to say. 

 
edmonton said:
THANK YOU   Kincanuck for the information, greatly appreciated.

Would you happen to know if I can appeal medical limitations as an applicant?   My concern is that because the recruiting medical officer in Ottawa is an actual physician and the medical officer who performed my evaluation in Edmonton is not, that this letter may be a final decision as it makes no mention of appeal.   I understand that I should just ask these questions directly with the medic at the recruiting office, but the more i know before i go down there, the better equipped i will be to deal with what they have to say.  

Yes it is possible to appeal the limitations and in my experience this can only be done if you have more medical proof that your condition has improved or will not intefere with your employment and deployment as a CF member.   These decisions are not made lightly.

that this letter may be a final decision as it makes no mention of appeal. This should not dissuade you from talking to the med person at the CFRC/D.
 
I received a similar letter, and on the top or near the end of the letter there was a phone number to the officer who wrote the letter. Give that number a call. Normally it will go to an answering machine but just leave a message and wait it out.

Good Luck

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edmonton said:
Looking for answers in regards to a letter i received from Ottawa today.

During my medical evaluation in Edmonton I honestly mentioned that in the past i have sustained ankle and shoulder injuries from rugby. Both of these injuries are now over 5 years old and do not in any way effect me physically.  I passed my fitness test with the instructor commenting that i performed extremely well (i'm a female applicant), and also passed the recruiting medical. 

Today i received a letter from the Recruiting medical officer in Ottawa stating that because of the above mentioned injuries I do not meet the common enrolment standard and medical limitations have been assigned, meaning I'm not eligable for reg or reserve forces.  I provided documentation earlier from my family doctor stating that i was physically fit and able and am now wondering where I go from here. 

Of course my career counsellor doesn't answer his phone and I haven't been able to speak to him yet, but I was wondering if anyone knows the procedure for something like this?  I know I am fit and do meet the standard, is there any way I can appeal this decision? 


sorry to hear that. Thats pretty drastic. As long as you are truely ok, I would fight that one hard. Dont give up!
Good luck.
 
Hello there!  I am currently in the process of appealing a medical decision which stated that I "don't meet the common enrolement standards" due to a prior knee injury I had suffered almost 2 years ago out west. The letter also said on the bottom in bold print: "contact CFB Gagetown for the final decision concerning the application"; which I did.  CFB Gagetown told me I had to be in contact with a specialist and get him/her to write a letter to CF recruiting center stating that I was fully capable, which he did last week. I have waited for almost a full year to get where I am right now and there is still no promises.  Morale of this whole post is to hang in there and annoy the hell out of everyone until you are sworn in.  I wish you all the best! :cdn:
 
The Gues-|- said:
Hello there!   I am currently in the process of appealing a medical decision which stated that I "don't meet the common enrolement standards" due to a prior knee injury I had suffered almost 2 years ago out west. The letter also said on the bottom in bold print: "contact CFB Gagetown for the final decision concerning the application"; which I did.   CFB Gagetown told me I had to be in contact with a specialist and get him/her to write a letter to CF recruiting center stating that I was fully capable, which he did last week. I have waited for almost a full year to get where I am right now and there is still no promises.   Morale of this whole post is to hang in there and annoy the heck out of everyone until you are sworn in.   I wish you all the best! :cdn:

If you dont mind me asking what was is that did not allow you to meet the "common enrolement standards"?
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I am nervous about getting a letter like that. I have no injury's but when I was in Gr. 3 I want on Rydalin for about 2 months. Nothing major and I was never even diagnosed with ADD or ADHD. My Family Doctor filled in the form stating that. But what are the chances that that will be unacceptable to the RMO?
 
I had a history of right knee and patellar disclocations on different occasions. on top of that I stretched my acl.  Understandably, the CF medical standards ensure that all recruits can achieve high standards of physical fitness and endure prolonged periods of sever mental and physical stress. Military Personnel work in extreme climatic conditions and diverse environments including isolated areas where little medical support is available. etc.  :dontpanic:
 
Simply phone the nearest CFRC and ask for the status of your application. :dontpanic:
 
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