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LPC leadership race - 2025

Don't know the guy personally, and if he's working anti-gang stuff, he's doing something important and has something to contribute. I suspect the more cynical will point to this in the info-machine bio as a rationale: "a lifelong advocate for diversity and inclusion."

QC senator (links to info-machine bio), having been a CFIB-ite, could bring Paul-Martin-like vibes, but again, doubting Thomas' will say it's a "gift" to QC.

The SK dude (links to PM info-machine bio) sounds like he could be a serious voice for many things ag & ag logistics, and may actually pipe up about the West. Again, doubters'll say this is just a token Western appointment who's forever tied to the apron strings of the appointee, so we'll see.
Yeah, he seems to have had a ‘been there done that’ police career. I’m biased of course but I’m happy to see him named. He’ll have a good sense of a lot of the real challenges we face in the organized crime realm. He’ll be a real asset on the right committees.
 
Without a doubt there would need to be an expansion of health services personal. This would take a lot of stress off families though of lot of families by always having a family doctor. It would also bring CAF doctors back in house who are farmed out to learn/maintain the skill of family medicine.
I know nothing of what it would take; just that I think it would be a positive idea. Would it necessarily have to be CAF medical? 22 Wing here in North Bay has a 'family medical clinic' operated under MFRC that is separate from CAF medical (both organizationally and physically). The doctor our daughter has (she's a NPF employee) is a local doctor and a member of a local health team. Beyond that I have no idea of the details, but North Bay is otherwise an underserviced area (we can't get a doctor).
 
Quick updates: couple of debates coming 24 & 25 Feb, both in Montreal ....
... and as of this post @ 0522E, no "how are we voting?" info yet on the Team Red leadership page:
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My count shows the rules're supposed to be shared no later than tomorrow (Monday 10 Feb). We'll see ...
 
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This could go in any number of threads, but we'll put it here.

This pic was taken in March of 2024. I wonder what our outsider was doing there?

Found it.

What was Carney doing there discussing trade with China before he was brought in to run for PM?

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This could go in any number of threads, but we'll put it here.

This pic was taken in March of 2024. I wonder what our outsider was doing there?

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Found it.
Yeah this will go over as well as a ton of bricks dropped from the 18th floor.

The other weakness is that Mark Carney can't debate worth a shit and he is dry as hell to listen to.
 
All ready found and posted

This one is paywalled. At least for me.
Ah. I thought the question was “what he was doing there”. The article answers it. Basically various US CEOs meeting with Xi. Xi trying to encourage more investment in China and trying to convince them these are conciliatory gestures in China’s part. This was there in his capacity with Bloomberg.
 
Yeah this will go over as well as a ton of bricks dropped from the 18th floor.

The other weakness is that Mark Carney can't debate worth a shit and he is dry as hell to listen to.

I wonder if this is who Carney was talking about when he said we should find other buyers. Maybe China could use our minerals for their EV batteries, made in Canada. Perhaps that would bypass the EV embargo put in place by Biden?
 
Ah. I thought the question was “what he was doing there”. The article answers it. Basically various US CEOs meeting with Xi. Xi trying to encourage more investment in China and trying to convince them these are conciliatory gestures in China’s part. This was there in his capacity with Bloomberg.
Like I said already, I can't see the article.
 
Ah. I thought the question was “what he was doing there”. The article answers it. Basically various US CEOs meeting with Xi. Xi trying to encourage more investment in China and trying to convince them these are conciliatory gestures in China’s part. This was there in his capacity with Bloomberg.
Bloomberg or Brookefield?
 
If China wants to buy raw materials from us on terms advantageous to and profitable for our producers, right on, have at ‘er. That’s money into Canada and jobs for Canadians. We should simply not be allowing them to buy Canadian companies or to acquire Canadian intellectual property. China’s our second biggest export market yet is only 1/20th the value of our export trade with the U.S. Selling them stuff that doesn’t compromise Canadian interests is an obvious move to make in our export diversification.

Trump has just announced 25% import tariffs on aluminum and steel to the U.S. starting this, including from Canada. That’s double figure billions of our exports to the US. We might be off to the races again on the tariff fight already.

 
If China wants to buy raw materials from us on terms advantageous to and profitable for our producers, right on, have at ‘er. That’s money into Canada and jobs for Canadians. We should simply not be allowing them to buy Canadian companies or to acquire Canadian intellectual property. China’s our second biggest export market yet is only 1/20th the value of our export trade with the U.S. Selling them stuff that doesn’t compromise Canadian interests is an obvious move to make in our export diversification.

Trump has just announced 25% import tariffs on aluminum and steel to the U.S. starting this, including from Canada. That’s double figure billions of our exports to the US. We might be off to the races again on the tariff fight already.

That's all well and good if you're just considering China as a buyer. However, they are much more than that. We know the deals the liberals give to them. What kind of trading party sends its military to surveillance our coasts?


What kind of trade partner funnels pounds and pounds of fentanyl precursors into Canada?

Or launders millions upon millions of dollars through casinos and real estate?

Or wrongfully imprisons and horribly treats Canadians over a Huawei business deal

I could keep going, but if that's the type of trade partner you want to do business with and ignore the myriad of human rights violations and business tactics, to make a buck and spite Trump, right on, have at 'er.

And if your one of those climate people, let's not forget they are the biggest offender in the world and don't give a flying fuck about the climate.

China has a single goal and that's to dominate every country it can and plunder their resources.

I can sleep easy with my stance and not have to feel guilty about people and things I can't see. I'm not selling my country for a bag of beads.

You got your side, I'll stick with mine and we can agree to disagree. I understand your stance perfectly. I have no need to discuss it further.
 
Like I said already, I can't see the article.
Can't create an archived link, so check out the attached.
... What kind of trading party sends its military to surveillance our coasts?

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Better or worse than one who won't recognize the Northwest Passage isn't Canadian? Discuss ... Gotta be careful about dealing with China, for sure, but also gotta be careful about dealing with the US more than in the past, too.
... Trump has just announced 25% import tariffs on aluminum and steel to the U.S. starting this, including from Canada. That’s double figure billions of our exports to the US. We might be off to the races again on the tariff fight already.

Been down this road before under Trump 1.0, albeit in a very different environment - this from the CBC piece ....
... Trump imposed steel and aluminum tariffs at 25 and 10 per cent respectively during his first term in March 2018, using national security as justification.

Canada was initially given an exemption to those duties, but it was ultimately hit by the tariffs on May 31, 2018. Canada responded with a series of counter-tariffs on American products like Florida orange juice.

Nearly a year later, on May 17, 2019, the White House announced a deal had been reached to prevent "surges" in the steel and aluminum supplies from Canada and Mexico, ending the trade dispute ....
 

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That's all well and good if you're just considering China as a buyer. However, they are much more than that. We know the deals the liberals give to them. What kind of trading party sends its military to surveillance our coasts?


What kind of trade partner funnels pounds and pounds of fentanyl precursors into Canada?

Or launders millions upon millions of dollars through casinos and real estate?

Or wrongfully imprisons and horribly treats Canadians over a Huawei business deal

I could keep going, but if that's the type of trade partner you want to do business with and ignore the myriad of human rights violations and business tactics, to make a buck and spite Trump, right on, have at 'er.

And if your one of those climate people, let's not forget they are the biggest offender in the world and don't give a flying fuck about the climate.

China has a single goal and that's to dominate every country it can and plunder their resources.

I can sleep easy with my stance and not have to feel guilty about people and things I can't see. I'm not selling my country for a bag of beads.

You got your side, I'll stick with mine and we can agree to disagree. I understand your stance perfectly. I have no need to discuss it further.
You don’t understand my stance perfectly because you’re basing your rant on unsupported assumptions.

If a Chinese manufacturer wants to buy materials from Canadian producer x, y, or z, have at er as a matter of commerce between those two countries.

I have not suggested nor will I suggest that:

- The Chinese military be given any access to Canadian soil or territorial waters

- That Chinese police be given any license to operate here, save for the reciprocal existing exchange of a couple of authorized liaison officers. And we should watch them like hawks.

Anyone importing Fentanyl or precursors, hammer them.

Anyone laundering money through our system, hammer them. I’ll note that those sending money here tend to be trying to hide it from their own government, so that runs counter to your point.

Let’s clamp down further on foreign non-resident purchase or ownership of real estate in Canada while we’re at it. Canadian property for people lawfully citizens of or residing in Canada.

Where Canadians are mistreated, leverage what we can to repatriate them. We will not always be able to help Canadians who choose to travel to certain risky parts of the world unfortunately. If there are screws we can turn to mitigate that, do so.

Nothing to do with ‘spiting’ Trump. We are grossly over-reliant on the U.S. as a trading partner and it’s being weaponized against us. Fine, we allowed it to happen. Now let’s work to expand our export markets; diversification is a key part of any sound strategic investment strategy. Canada digs a lot of stuff out of the ground. I’m all for selling it to pretty much whoever will buy it.

You’ll need to talk about your climate stuff with whoever the climate people are.

I trust you have a better understanding of my position now? Because you certainly didn’t when you went off half cocked.
 
If Trump's objectives were to get us to cleave closer to the US and away from China, he's going about it the wrong way.

Up until 3 weeks ago, there was a lot of support for weaning our economy off Beijing. That has since gone into full reverse.

Honey works better than vinegar.
 
If Trump's objectives were to get us to cleave closer to the US and away from China, he's going about it the wrong way.

Up until 3 weeks ago, there was a lot of support for weaning our economy off Beijing. That has since gone into full reverse.

Honey works better than vinegar.
I’m not a fan of expanding exports to China for China’s sake; just that Canadian producers need customers and too many of our eggs are in one basket. Ideally we’ll work aggressively to reduce trade barriers and open up export markets as ‘everywhere else’ as possible. Next year’s customers needn’t match next week’s. But we do need next week customers along the way. The U.S. administration seems determined to reduce the extent to which they’re that customer. Ok, their prerogative. We do need to adapt though.
 
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