Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????

[Altair]

Oh boy, how will Team O'Toole top that?

I know.

I love this game.

Quick and convienient free abortions

I don't think any party is running on changing the rules around abortion, yet you keep bringing it up. Only members of 1 party keep bringing it up.

$10 daycare

Seems popular enough that the CPC isn't campaigning against it.

AND vouchers to drop your kids off at $10 daycare when you get abortions.

You're salty and the election hasn't even begun yet.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Yes.

The socialist paradox: the less you pay the fewer the choices you have.

You know, like issued kit only comes in two sizes: too large, too small.

That is exactly what I was wondering. The socialist construct. Once dependent on government, they decide. Like housing, food and medicine. Once funded, you no longer have a choice where you live, what you eat or how you're treated. Ottawa will decide.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I would expect publicly-run daycares to follow some kind of plan, the same way publicly-run schools do.

Unfortunately, the plan probably doesn't matter very much. Gains from accelerated early learning wash out by the late pre-teen years. Better if the kids are well-socialized, well-mannered, and not over-watched or pushed.

That's not the concern Brad. The concern is losing the ability to choose.

 

[Altair]

That is exactly what I was wondering. The socialist construct. Once dependent on government, they decide. Like housing, food and medicine. Once funded, you no longer have a choice where you live, what you eat or how you're treated. Ottawa will decide.

except private daycare will still exist, same as private schools still exist despite there being public schools...

You don't like public school, you send your kid to private school, you don't like public daycare, send your kid to private daycare.

I don't see the issue. I also don't know why Manitoba signing a deal with the feds made this such a pressing concern, provinces have been signing on the this for over a month now.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I love this game.

Yea you do

I don't think any party is running on changing the rules around abortion, yet you keep bringing it up. Only members of 1 party keep bringing it up.

LPC counts on Canadians afraid of abortion rules being challanged, despite it not being fucked with for 10 years of CPC at the helm. It's not unexpected.

LPC also counts on pro-choice Canadians hating pro-life Canadians for their beliefs.

Trudeau kicked off the pre-election campaign by talking about "It’s time men stop telling other men that it’s ok for them to decide what women can or cannot do with their bodies."
He's making the topic of abortion an election issue. Smart.

Seems popular enough that the CPC isn't campaigning against it.

I like the premise of it. I paid out the ass for child care last time I was on tour and didn't make a ton of extra cash.

It was mentioned above people took advantage of Quebec's cheap day care. Lots of well off families nabbing it up. We know the LPC likes their well off donors. I'm anxious to see the mess it turns into.

You're salty and the election hasn't even begun yet.

Naw I've embraced defeat already. Now it's a show from my comfy seat.


In any case political promises are trash and Canadians are raccoons.

 

[Good2Golf]

In any case political promises are trash and Canadians are raccoons.

 

[Altair]

I swear, do people complain when there is a food bank for the less fortunate that all restaurants and supermarkets will close

Yea you do

I must hate myself.

LPC counts on Canadians afraid of abortion rules being challanged, despite it not being fucked with for 10 years of CPC at the helm. It's not unexpected.

LPC also counts on pro-choice Canadians hating pro-life Canadians for their beliefs.

Trudeau kicked off the pre-election campaign by talking about "It’s time men stop telling other men that it’s ok for them to decide what women can or cannot do with their bodies."
He's making the topic of abortion an election issue. Smart.

You know what? Fair. Point granted.

I like the premise of it. I paid out the ass for child care last time I was on tour and didn't make a ton of extra cash.

It was mentioned above people took advantage of Quebec's cheap day care. Lots of well off families nabbing it up. We know the LPC likes their well off donors. I'm anxious to see the mess it turns into.

This is like healthcare, or education, or marijuana to an extent. Feds make the general rules, and front the money in the case of healthcare and education and the provinces run the program. So how big a mess it will turn into is up to the provinces.

Naw I've embraced defeat already. Now it's a show from my comfy seat.

I'm not thinking victory just yet. I'm still unsure if the LPC can get a majority. Although I'm fine if they don't.

In any case political promises are trash and Canadians are raccoons.

Also true. There are a few gems in every trash can though, the raccoons know this.

 

[Haggis]

A Chinese intermediate court has sentenced Michael Spavor to 11 years in prison for spying. The court also ordered that 50,000 Yuan (roughly $9650 CAD) of personal assets would be seized and he will be deported. When the deportation would happen is unclear. Foreign Affairs Minister Marc Garneau says Canada condemns this "in the strongest possible terms".

 

[Fishbone Jones]

If trudeau can give the convicted terrorist khadar $10.5 mil for being tortured and imprisoned, they should do the same for the two Michaels.

 

[MilEME09]

If trudeau can give the convicted terrorist khadar $10.5 mil for being tortured and imprisoned, they should do the same for the two Michaels.

I'd say more in their case because they actually didn't do anything, where as khadar deserved a .35 cent bullet

 

[OldSolduer]

I'd say more in their case because they actually didn't do anything, where as khadar deserved a .35 cent bullet

I second the motion.

 

[suffolkowner]

Hopefully they get convicted and deported relatively quickly and we get them home. I hope they're not stuck there until this Ms Huawei runs it's course, because that could be another year or two

 

[Colin Parkinson]

That is exactly what I was wondering. The socialist construct. Once dependent on government, they decide. Like housing, food and medicine. Once funded, you no longer have a choice where you live, what you eat or how you're treated. Ottawa will decide.

Hey it worked for the First Nations and Iniut who's lives were controlled by the State, right.....?

 

[Altair]

Hey it worked for the First Nations and Iniut who's lives were controlled by the State, right.....?

I hope everyone here is just as opposed to public hospitals, public schools, public transit....

 

[suffolkowner]

I hope everyone here is just as opposed to public hospitals, public schools, public transit....

I'm just not convinced of the public value of subsidized daycare yet whereas I am on public healthcare, schools and transit. It's a vote getter for sure though. Now all they need to do is find the actual daycare spots to subsidize

 

[Haggis]

Hopefully they get convicted and deported relatively quickly and we get them home. I hope they're not stuck there until this Ms Huawei runs it's course, because that could be another year or two

Spavor's Chinese lawyer said the deportation would likely take place after his sentence is served. Under exceptional circumstances (e.g. Canada halting the extradition of Meng Wanzhou and releasing her) he could be deported earlier.

 

[suffolkowner]

Spavor's Chinese lawyer said the deportation would likely take place after his sentence is served. Under exceptional circumstances (e.g. Canada halting the extradition of Meng Wanzhou and releasing her) he could be deported earlier.

Well that sucks as I was assuming they had gone back to their normal mode of operation where they convict and deport instead of serving the sentence in China. I'm also assumming that the two Michaels aren't actual spies and that Robert Schellenberg was an actual drug smuggler.

 

[QV]

I hope everyone here is just as opposed to public hospitals, public schools, public transit....

~raises hand~
I'd prefer to see less public and more a combination of public/private, and private.

 

[suffolkowner]

~raises hand~
I'd prefer to see less public and more a combination of public/private, and private.

God no! Unless I'm the private partner in a public/private venture I want no part of it. They have to on the whole like 90% some of the biggest wastes and abuses of public money and trust that I've seen in the last 35 years. Almost always the public takes all the risk and the private part of the venture gets all the reward.

 

[Altair]

~raises hand~
I'd prefer to see less public and more a combination of public/private, and private.

Yet, when there is only the private sector, in this case daycare, and no public option, in this case daycare, you don't seem to mind.

At least you haven't said anything about the status quo. And when there is the chance here to add a public option, all I hear is the great horrors of the public taking away the private option.

Private daycare is not going to disappear. There are private daycares in Quebec, the model of this program. Not every kid will get into a a 10 dollars a day daycare spot. So I wish people would stop the bellyaching.

If people want their kids in private daycare, they can still do so. The only thing that is going to change is that people who want their kid in public daycare at 10 dollars a day will have that option, finally.

Since when is more choice a bad thing?