LAV 6.0

[IKnowNothing]

I'm not the biggest fan of the LAV and I wish GDLS in London could diversify into a tracked vehicle

99% GDLS and Liberal party. The SA deal was looking bad politically the deal could go south. SA had already pulled some of the order. The Liberals had made a deal with CAW/Unifor Gerry Diaz for votes. London is important. GDLS comes in you need to keep the plant open. Here's a deal.

CAF we need new vehicles. Commonality with the current LAV6 is good. So deal!

I got thinking about this.

Identification began on June 2017. Options Analysis Jan 2019. Contract award Sept 2019. 26-27 total months to award a contract to replace 2 fleets and deliver 8 variants/ capabilities in two different hull configurations- with a novel design. 2.5B for 360 vehicles.

We sit now approaching 26 months from the start of the war. A pity the same leverage could not have been applied to sole source some capability gap filling on the more lethal end with OTS designs.

 

[ueo]

I got thinking about this.

Identification began on June 2017. Options Analysis Jan 2019. Contract award Sept 2019. 26-27 total months to award a contract to replace 2 fleets and deliver 8 variants/ capabilities in two different hull configurations- with a novel design. 2.5B for 360 vehicles.

We sit now approaching 26 months from the start of the war. A pity the same leverage could not have been applied to sole source some capability gap filling on the more lethal end with OTS designs.

Seem to remember a proposal, whether entered or not in the late 70;s. that GD take a Grizzly hull and make it tracked. Submitted after mobility trials in Norway sorta suggested tracks were more reliable. Never heard of it again.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Until GDLS in London starts building tracked vehicles. The Army will not get any .
Unless the various ridings in the area consistently vote for the opposition party. And then it's anyone's guess.

 

[suffolkowner]

Until GDLS in London starts building tracked vehicles. The Army will not get any .
Unless the various ridings in the area consistently vote for the opposition party. And then it's anyone's guess.

so they need to vote Liberal?

 

[GK .Dundas]

so they need to vote Liberal?

Sorry that was incredibly badly written.
What I meant that unless it's built by the London plant it most likely will not be purchased for the Army.
So until they produce a tracked vehicle. And as long as the Government party considers those area ridings important to retaining their position.
I honestly don't see a future for many tracked vehicles in the Canadian Army.

 

[suffolkowner]

Sorry that was incredibly badly written.
What I meant that unless it's built by the London plant it most likely will not be purchased for the Army.
So until they produce a tracked vehicle. And as long as the Government party considers those area ridings important to retaining their position.
I honestly don't see a future for many tracked vehicles in the Canadian Army.

And thats kinda why i hold out for a tracked LAV. Got to use the pork barreling in our favour

 

[KevinB]

And thats kinda why i hold out for a tracked LAV. Got to use the pork barreling in our favour

The basic chassis of the LAV doesn’t lead itself to being a practical platform for a tracked vehicle.

If you want a tracked vehicle - get a properly designed one - don’t try to half ass it for a believe of commonality between the Wheeled platform and tracked.

 

[FJAG]

so they need to vote Liberal?

London has three ridings one of which consistently votes NDP and two vote Liberal. London is surrounded by a sea of Blue.

 

[FJAG]

If you want a tracked vehicle - get a properly designed one - don’t try to half ass it for a believe of commonality between the Wheeled platform and tracked.

That's why I'd take Ajax with a variety MOOG RIwP turret systems. Easy-peasy. London could handle that. For compatibility with the LAVs you could retrofit quite a few LAVs with the same turrets to provide the AD and ATGM capability they lack now.

 

[childs56]

I would like to see the LAV 6 in the tracked variant they did with the Stryker TR.
The protection level if the LAV6 is pretty decent, if you added an armor package similar to the Bradley I wonder how well it would compare.

 

[ringo]

They need a tracked vehicle to pull LAV's out of the mud.

 

[suffolkowner]

London has three ridings one of which consistently votes NDP and two vote Liberal. London is surrounded by a sea of Blue.

looks like the two liberal ridings are predicted to go blue while the NDP holds

That's why I'd take Ajax with a variety MOOG RIwP turret systems. Easy-peasy. London could handle that. For compatibility with the LAVs you could retrofit quite a few LAVs with the same turrets to provide the AD and ATGM capability they lack now.

Like I said before they will need something to do after ACSV