July 2024: Two GTA men arrested, charged with terrorism linked to ISIS

[brihard]

FYI Deportation is a thing not only for cases like this, but lesser crimes. We have deported at least two to Somalia.....one to Australia and a few others I cannot recall the details on. And this is from a small jail in Manitoba.

Yup- “serious criminality”; generally means either actually sentenced to six months or more in custody, or convicted of an offense that carries a maximum of at least ten years, regardless of what sentence you actually get.

 

[KevinB]

These guys. I don’t care where they go, just get them the hell out of Canada.

The immigration interview of questionable applicants should be done by a woman wearing a tank top and lulu lemon shorts and the applicants reaction will surely indicate their suitability of becoming a citizen of Canada.

Drop them at the 10mile mark somewhere in the North Atlantic, preferably in the October to Feb time frame…

In a tank top and Lululemon pants.

Then quote Bill Cosby’s Noah ‘how long can you tread water’.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Or an exceptionally flamboyant out-of-the-closet-and-proud gay man.

To be fair to the prospective immigrant, if social media is any indication, there’s more than one Canadian who wouldn’t make it through that interview these days

 

[OldSolduer]

Drop them at the 10mile mark somewhere in the North Atlantic, preferably in the October to Feb time frame…

In a tank top and Lululemon pants.

Then quote Bill Cosby’s Noah ‘how long can you tread water’.

Save the Lulus please, won't anyone think of the Lulus? Woe is me!!

 

[The Bread Guy]

OK, then ....

Canada taking review of immigration screening of terror plot suspects 'extremely seriously,' PM Trudeau says

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the federal government is taking an internal review into the immigration and screening of a father and son recently charged in connection to an alleged foiled Toronto terror plot 'extremely seriously.'

www.ctvnews.ca

From the piece ....

 

[McG]

But how many more security risks have been let it? Half of what has been identified plus whatever goes unnoticed.

Ottawa allowed in half of foreign nationals red-flagged as security risks, audit finds

Nearly half of foreign nationals flagged by security agencies to the immigration department for ties to serious offences like war crimes, espionage and terrorism were allowed into the country anyways between 2014 and 2019.

nationalpost.com

 

[dimsum]

But how many more security risks have been let it? Half of what has been identified plus whatever goes unnoticed.

Ottawa allowed in half of foreign nationals red-flagged as security risks, audit finds

Nearly half of foreign nationals flagged by security agencies to the immigration department for ties to serious offences like war crimes, espionage and terrorism were allowed into the country anyways between 2014 and 2019.

nationalpost.com

Honest question: So if an organization is designated a terrorist organization after some of its members have already been allowed in (because it wasn’t designated then), do those get counted in the stats as “Canada allows terrorists in”, or not?

 

[lenaitch]

But how many more security risks have been let it? Half of what has been identified plus whatever goes unnoticed.

Ottawa allowed in half of foreign nationals red-flagged as security risks, audit finds

Nearly half of foreign nationals flagged by security agencies to the immigration department for ties to serious offences like war crimes, espionage and terrorism were allowed into the country anyways between 2014 and 2019.

nationalpost.com

From the article:

If an officer determines that an applicant is inadmissible to Canada on serious grounds such as violating human rights or organized crime, an exemption can be granted if “it is deemed that the entry of this person is in Canada’s interest,” she said.​

Some thing about turd and clean end comes to mind.

 

[dapaterson]

From the article:

If an officer determines that an applicant is inadmissible to Canada on serious grounds such as violating human rights or organized crime, an exemption can be granted if “it is deemed that the entry of this person is in Canada’s interest,” she said.​

Some thing about turd and clean end comes to mind.

The US Space Program comes to mind.

 

[dimsum]

From the article:

If an officer determines that an applicant is inadmissible to Canada on serious grounds such as violating human rights or organized crime, an exemption can be granted if “it is deemed that the entry of this person is in Canada’s interest,” she said.​

Some thing about turd and clean end comes to mind.

Would diplomats or their families/staff be subject to that as well? Or does diplomatic immunity cover it?

 

[brihard]

Would diplomats or their families/staff be subject to that as well? Or does diplomatic immunity cover it?

Canada could elect not to grant diplomatic accreditation. There’s definitely screening for diplomatic accreditation requests.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

The US Space Program comes to mind.

I see what you did there, Julie…

 

[The Bread Guy]

Well, it looks like SOMEONE gets it (at last?) ....

'I am disgusted as any Canadian': Immigration minister looking into revoking terror suspect's citizenship

Immigration Minister Marc Miller says he plans to look into whether the man accused of plotting a terror attack in Toronto should have his Canadian citizenship revoked.

www.ctvnews.ca

What draws my eye is this (highlight mine):

As others smarter than me have said in other threads, prepare to throw bureaucrats under the bus? Whatever happened to "buck stops with me, we'll get 'er done"? I know, paint me naive, right?

Haven't seen any public info re: any other citizenships the father may hold, only that as of yesterday, police are still trying to confirm the son's staus.

Father, son accused of planning Toronto terror attack due in court

The RCMP said that the two men were "in the advanced stages of planning a serious, violent attack in Toronto."

toronto.citynews.ca

I suspect if father has no other citizenship (if he was born here), we may be SOL about revoking, but I await the results of the digging. More'll likely come out during the hearings, I suspect.

Minutes - SECU (44-1) - No. 115 - House of Commons of Canada

Minutes - SECU (44-1) - No. 115 - House of Commons of Canada

www.ourcommons.ca

Also, a bit more about how Canada found out

Tip about Toronto ISIS plot came from France | Globalnews.ca

French authorities alerted CSIS, which notified the RCMP, sources told Global News.

globalnews.ca

 

[lenaitch]

I suspect if father has no other citizenship (if he was born here), we may be SOL about revoking, but I await the results of the digging. More'll likely come out during the hearings, I suspect.

If he was born here, citizenship cannot be revoked. Revocation only applies to citizenship that has been granted by legislation, not inherent by birthright.

I suspect that if any failings are to be uncovered, no one will be held accountable, even if 'names are named'.

 

[OldSolduer]

If he was born here, citizenship cannot be revoked. Revocation only applies to citizenship that has been granted by legislation, not inherent by birthright.

I suspect that if any failings are to be uncovered, no one will be held accountable, AND PERHAPS EVEN GRANTED A BONUS even if 'names are named'.

Does that about sum it up?

 

[Good2Golf]

Does that about sum it up?

The “Phoenix Effect”….

 

[The Bread Guy]

I'm sure fulsome, granular details will be forthcoming shortly ....

Public safety minister reveals how, when Toronto terror plot suspects came to Canada

Two men facing terrorism charges for allegedly plotting an attack in Toronto have been in Canada for years, with one securing citizenship just a few months before his arrest, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc revealed Wednesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[OldSolduer]

I'm sure fulsome, granular details will be forthcoming shortly ....

Public safety minister reveals how, when Toronto terror plot suspects came to Canada

Two men facing terrorism charges for allegedly plotting an attack in Toronto have been in Canada for years, with one securing citizenship just a few months before his arrest, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc revealed Wednesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

Oh you are a comedian too?

 

[The Bread Guy]

A bit more coming out re: the timeline ....

Toronto terror suspect came to Canada in 2018, became citizen last spring

OTTAWA - A man who is facing terror charges for allegedly plotting an attack in Toronto with his son came to Canada in 2018 and became a citizen just months

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Toronto terror suspect became citizen last spring, public safety committee told

Public Safety Minister Dominic Leblanc was short on answers testifying Wednesday on how an alleged ISIS terrorist obtained citizenship

torontosun.com

Public safety minister reveals how, when Toronto terror plot suspects came to Canada

Two men facing terrorism charges for allegedly plotting an attack in Toronto have been in Canada for years, with one securing citizenship just a few months before his arrest, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc revealed Wednesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

Media reports alerted CBSA to ISIS video allegedly showing Canadian citizen charged with terrorism

The Canadian Border Services Agency only became aware of a gruesome ISIS propaganda video allegedly showing the Canadian man accused of plotting a foiled terrorist attack this summer after media reported its existence.

nationalpost.com

Archived link to the National Post piece also here if previous link doesn't work.

 

[ModlrMike]

If convicted, then jail, then revocation of citizenship based on prior ineligibility, then deportation to AFG.

If not convicted, then revocation of citizenship and deportation.

Either way, neither of these clowns should be here.