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Familiar enough to make my blood boil.George Wallace said:
Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)
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Some good new from a suburban Toronto courtroom: "Mohamed Hersi, a Toronto man convicted of trying to travel overseas to join a terrorist group, was sentenced Thursday morning ... to 10 years in prison – the maximum penalty for the charges he faced."
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Excellent, but not long enough to suit me.
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A cut and paste from an email I received.
Subject: Dutch Orchestra Walks Out..!!
Dutch Orchestral Concert Friday, 09 May, 2014 !
Queen Beatrix of Holland attends an Orchestral Concert. The Conductor, who just happens to be Muslim, proceeds to give the Queen a lecture on the "beauty" of Islam.
The members of the Orchestra stage a walkout!
Interestingly this did not make the news in Canada or the USA.
http://www.safeshare.tv/w/cqjiYhtiXs
Subject: Dutch Orchestra Walks Out..!!
Dutch Orchestral Concert Friday, 09 May, 2014 !
Queen Beatrix of Holland attends an Orchestral Concert. The Conductor, who just happens to be Muslim, proceeds to give the Queen a lecture on the "beauty" of Islam.
The members of the Orchestra stage a walkout!
Interestingly this did not make the news in Canada or the USA.
http://www.safeshare.tv/w/cqjiYhtiXs
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Good riddance. Hope they see it through to the final escort to the nearest portal.
Colin Parkinson
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recceguy said:
any idea on the "requests" he made?
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Sorry Colin, no idea.
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To join Islam.Colin P said:
And it wasn't the conductor, but some guy who took to the stage and known to police "disrupting meetings and "making a confused impression." " Incident happened in 2011. (original in Dutch)
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Oh dear, such a tragic turn of events... >
Farah Mohamed Shirdon of Calgary, fighting for ISIS, dead in Iraq, reports say
Farah Mohamed Shirdon of Calgary, fighting for ISIS, dead in Iraq, reports say
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jollyjacktar said:Oh dear, such a tragic turn of events... >
Farah Mohamed Shirdon of Calgary, fighting for ISIS, dead in Iraq, reports say
Oh, that's a shame.
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X_para76 said:
Why yes....yes it is. Poor misunderstood young lad....
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One should include all those Somali-Canadians who went to fight for Al-Shabab among those mentioned below:
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In the local boy makes good department (I live in Kemptville) here is a story in today's Ottawa Citizen reproduced under the fair dealing provisions of the Copyright Act about our local Jimmy Jihad:
Jihadi from Kemptville and Ottawa was smart, funny and 'ambitious', friends say
SARAH BOESVELD
Published on: August 28, 2014Last Updated: August 28, 2014 9:52 AM EDT
Before he felt the pull of Syria’s Islamic extremists, before he started going by the name Yahya, and before he found his self-described “opportunity for martyrdom,” John Maguire was just another Kemptville teenager whose sharp wit sometimes got him into trouble.
Former classmate Evan Massey remembers being kicked out of class with Maguire — known to his peers as “JMag” — who teased him when he struggled to read something aloud during Grade 11 English.
In the halls and classrooms of North Grenville District High School, Maguire was far from the strident, opinionated loner those who knew him later in life describe: He was smart, funny and sarcastic.
He and a friend would routinely read the morning announcements over the school’s intercom, throwing in a few inappropriate inside jokes and calling out the principal for not standing up during O Canada. He was involved in student council. He got 80s on his report card.
But he also played his cards close to his chest. “He kept to himself about a lot of things that were either important or things that bugged him,” Massey remembered. His parents divorced when he was in his early teens, when his love for punk rock flourished.
The young man pushed boundaries, but also laughed about those who pushed too far.
“The really punk thing to say was ‘Anarchy, maaaan,'” Massey remembered. “He would make fun of that almost on the daily.”
But when their senior year began, “JMag” was nowhere to be seen. He just disappeared.
Few who’d gone to school with him heard anything about him until this week when Postmedia News reported the RCMP was investigating his presence in Syria.
But his path there had many stops since Kemptville: In Grade 12 he was living with his grandparents and attending Hillcrest High School in Alta Vista. Then, it was off to Los Angeles.
When he returned, friends noticed a Facebook status update announcing his conversion to Islam. He began studies at the University of Ottawa before buying a one-way ticket to Syria in January 2013.
The ideology Maguire expressed on social media is aligned with the Islamic State of Iraq & Al-Sham (ISIS), which a new UN Human Rights Council report, released Wednesday, accused of carrying out public executions — typically beheadings — to terrorize populations under their control. ISIS is also the extremist group that released the video of American journalist James Foley’s beheading.
Maguire was always an “out of the box” thinker and “strong-willed intellectually,” said one source who knew him in high school.
“Maybe it does kind of make sense that if he fell into that world, he’d go full blast into it.”
But to friend Luke Lavictoire, that intelligence and intensity usually came in the form of fervent researching to decide for himself whether he wanted to take up a cause or jump on a bandwagon.
“He definitely asks a lot of questions. He’s not a dumb kid, and for someone to misguide him or mislead him, he wouldn’t say ‘yes’ to anything,” Lavictoire said. “He would make sure he had all of the answers before doing something drastic.”
He remembers his friend as “ambitious.”
“He wanted to do something with his life, for sure,” Lavictoire said. “I still can’t believe this is him.”
A close friend from high school, who asked not to be identified, said he always expected Maguire to do “great things, which is why I was saddened to hear about his recent inclinations toward radical extremism,” he wrote in a Facebook message to Postmedia.
“Everything that I hear about him now is honestly nothing like the JMag we knew, and from the time we spent jammin’ in high school, or hanging out on the weekend, I never noticed any behaviour that would have fostered that sort of hatred towards any religious or social groups.”
Maguire loved hockey perhaps even more than punk rock, the friend said. Eventually he took more of a shine to 1990s dance and hip hop music — particularly the band 2 Unlimited and Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, but would still pick up a guitar and play classic rock or punk.
On his Facebook account, disabled after a reporter reached out, Maguire said, “evil is very prominent in Canadian culture, homosexuality, fornication and adultery are generally accepted, drugs and alcohol are easily accessible and widely accepted as being ‘normal,’ women and men are often not properly covered, music is widespread in public places.”
Maguire was “straight edge” in high school, Massey and Lavictoire recall — never touching alcohol or drugs, but certainly playing music in public. He was the one who started The Shackles, Massey said, inviting the young bass player to join. They played a few shows in the basement of the church, where Massey is now a pastor, and he remembers his friend having questions about faith.
“He definitely didn’t know anything about God,” he said.
At a diner in Ottawa two weeks ago, Massey was talking with an old high school friend about former classmates, when Maguire’s name came up. (Maguire had long ago unfriended Massey from Facebook.)
“He’s gotten into being a Muslim pretty hard,” Massey recalled his friend saying.
For his part, Lavictoire wishes he could have helped “JMag” sooner.
“There are tons of things I could sit down and say, but I don’t know if he’ll get out alive,” he said.
“It sounds like he’s on a one-way street right now.”
Jihadi from Kemptville and Ottawa was smart, funny and 'ambitious', friends say
SARAH BOESVELD
Published on: August 28, 2014Last Updated: August 28, 2014 9:52 AM EDT
Before he felt the pull of Syria’s Islamic extremists, before he started going by the name Yahya, and before he found his self-described “opportunity for martyrdom,” John Maguire was just another Kemptville teenager whose sharp wit sometimes got him into trouble.
Former classmate Evan Massey remembers being kicked out of class with Maguire — known to his peers as “JMag” — who teased him when he struggled to read something aloud during Grade 11 English.
In the halls and classrooms of North Grenville District High School, Maguire was far from the strident, opinionated loner those who knew him later in life describe: He was smart, funny and sarcastic.
He and a friend would routinely read the morning announcements over the school’s intercom, throwing in a few inappropriate inside jokes and calling out the principal for not standing up during O Canada. He was involved in student council. He got 80s on his report card.
But he also played his cards close to his chest. “He kept to himself about a lot of things that were either important or things that bugged him,” Massey remembered. His parents divorced when he was in his early teens, when his love for punk rock flourished.
The young man pushed boundaries, but also laughed about those who pushed too far.
“The really punk thing to say was ‘Anarchy, maaaan,'” Massey remembered. “He would make fun of that almost on the daily.”
But when their senior year began, “JMag” was nowhere to be seen. He just disappeared.
Few who’d gone to school with him heard anything about him until this week when Postmedia News reported the RCMP was investigating his presence in Syria.
But his path there had many stops since Kemptville: In Grade 12 he was living with his grandparents and attending Hillcrest High School in Alta Vista. Then, it was off to Los Angeles.
When he returned, friends noticed a Facebook status update announcing his conversion to Islam. He began studies at the University of Ottawa before buying a one-way ticket to Syria in January 2013.
The ideology Maguire expressed on social media is aligned with the Islamic State of Iraq & Al-Sham (ISIS), which a new UN Human Rights Council report, released Wednesday, accused of carrying out public executions — typically beheadings — to terrorize populations under their control. ISIS is also the extremist group that released the video of American journalist James Foley’s beheading.
Maguire was always an “out of the box” thinker and “strong-willed intellectually,” said one source who knew him in high school.
“Maybe it does kind of make sense that if he fell into that world, he’d go full blast into it.”
But to friend Luke Lavictoire, that intelligence and intensity usually came in the form of fervent researching to decide for himself whether he wanted to take up a cause or jump on a bandwagon.
“He definitely asks a lot of questions. He’s not a dumb kid, and for someone to misguide him or mislead him, he wouldn’t say ‘yes’ to anything,” Lavictoire said. “He would make sure he had all of the answers before doing something drastic.”
He remembers his friend as “ambitious.”
“He wanted to do something with his life, for sure,” Lavictoire said. “I still can’t believe this is him.”
A close friend from high school, who asked not to be identified, said he always expected Maguire to do “great things, which is why I was saddened to hear about his recent inclinations toward radical extremism,” he wrote in a Facebook message to Postmedia.
“Everything that I hear about him now is honestly nothing like the JMag we knew, and from the time we spent jammin’ in high school, or hanging out on the weekend, I never noticed any behaviour that would have fostered that sort of hatred towards any religious or social groups.”
Maguire loved hockey perhaps even more than punk rock, the friend said. Eventually he took more of a shine to 1990s dance and hip hop music — particularly the band 2 Unlimited and Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, but would still pick up a guitar and play classic rock or punk.
On his Facebook account, disabled after a reporter reached out, Maguire said, “evil is very prominent in Canadian culture, homosexuality, fornication and adultery are generally accepted, drugs and alcohol are easily accessible and widely accepted as being ‘normal,’ women and men are often not properly covered, music is widespread in public places.”
Maguire was “straight edge” in high school, Massey and Lavictoire recall — never touching alcohol or drugs, but certainly playing music in public. He was the one who started The Shackles, Massey said, inviting the young bass player to join. They played a few shows in the basement of the church, where Massey is now a pastor, and he remembers his friend having questions about faith.
“He definitely didn’t know anything about God,” he said.
At a diner in Ottawa two weeks ago, Massey was talking with an old high school friend about former classmates, when Maguire’s name came up. (Maguire had long ago unfriended Massey from Facebook.)
“He’s gotten into being a Muslim pretty hard,” Massey recalled his friend saying.
For his part, Lavictoire wishes he could have helped “JMag” sooner.
“There are tons of things I could sit down and say, but I don’t know if he’ll get out alive,” he said.
“It sounds like he’s on a one-way street right now.”
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Another one I don't want to see return to these shores. Good riddance.
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If you leave this country to go fight in another, your whole immediate family (parents, siblings, spouse, children) should be subject to deportation. I'm betting this would make most, if not all of them, think twice.
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Transporter said:
How would that work in the case where the siblings were born here? As in the case of Omar Khadr and Zaynab Khadr (his vitriolic sister)? Strip them of citizenship anyway?
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S.M.A. said:
There's probably no practical way of making it work in many cases, but it sure felt good saying it.
George Wallace
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S.M.A. said:
It can and has been done. http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/15/i-cant-be-stateless-born-in-canada-criminal-fighting-deportation-after-ottawa-decides-citizenship-not-valid/
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If there's a will, there's a way, so it is said. (if only, if only)S.M.A. said:
