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WTH? A UAV with AAMs?  :o

Iran has unveiled a new drone armed with air defense missile suitable for aerial combat

[source: armyrecognition.com] - September 28, 2014
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Times of Israel reports a massive blast at an Iranian nuclear facility. Confirmation is warrented, of course, but the reported size of the blast is quite considerable:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/massive-blast-reported-at-suspected-iranian-nuke-facility/#!

Massive blast reported at suspected Iranian nuke facility
Two reportedly killed in explosion at secretive Parchin site that shatters windows 12 kilometers away

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TEHRAN, Iran — Two people were killed in an explosion at a defense ministry plant east of Tehran for the production of explosives, Iran’s state news agency IRNA reported Monday.

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The Defense Industries Organisation, quoted by IRNA, said the fire broke out at the plant on Sunday night but it gave no further details.

The BBC, citing a report from the semi-official Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA), reported on Monday that the incident happened in an “explosive materials production unit” at the site south-east of the capital Tehran.

According to ISNA the blast was so powerful it shattered windows up to 12 kilometers away and the glare from the explosion lit up the night sky.

Several arms facilities and military bases are located east of the Iranian capital, including Parchin. UN nuclear inspectors have been seeking to visit the site to answer concerns about Iran’s atomic program.

The base lies at the centre of allegations of past Iranian research into sophisticated explosives that can be used to detonate a nuclear warhead.

Tehran, which has denied inspectors access to Parchin since 2005, insists its nuclear program is for purely civilian uses. Israel and the West fear Iran is seeking to attain nuclear weapons.

In August Iran reiterated that it will not allow IAEA inspectors to visit the site.

Nuclear experts from the IAEA were due to hold talks Tuesday in Tehran to try and resolve outstanding issues regarding Iran’s disputed atomic program.

The IRNA news agency said the visitors were expected in the capital on Monday night ahead of talks with Iranian officials.

IAEA inspectors have been given access to a string of declared nuclear sites as part of an interim nuclear deal reached with the major powers last November. Access to Parchin was not agreed under the terms of that accord but the IAEA has been seeking to visit the base as part of its mission to answer all concerns about Iran’s nuclear program, past and present.

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More on the explosion reported at the Iranian nuclear facility. IF you go to the link you will find the links to the satellite photos being referred to here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/09/update-satellite-photos-appear-to-show-damage-after-explosion-at-suspected-iranian-nuclear-facility/

Update: Satellite photos appear to show damage after “explosion” at suspected Iranian nuclear facility
POSTED AT 11:21 AM ON OCTOBER 9, 2014 BY ALLAHPUNDIT

If you read this post on Tuesday, you’ll want to read this one too. Did something happen a few days ago at the Parchin military base, where Iran has been accused of testing components for atomic bombs? Iranian state media reported that there was a fire at an “explosives producing facility” east of Tehran that killed two people; an Iranian dissident group countered that it wasn’t just any facility that had burned, it was an area on the Parchin base. And it wasn’t just a fire that had occurred, it was a gigantic explosion that shattered windows miles away. What’s the truth?

A site called Israel Defense obtained the most recent commercial satellite photos of Parchin and concluded, yep, something’s up. Quote:

Satellite images of the Parchin area, to the east of Tehran, prove: the explosion reported by the Iranian media had, indeed, occurred inside the military compound in Parchin, where, according to western intelligence agencies, trials are being conducted on nuclear missile fuzes. Satellite images obtained by Israel Defense and analyzed by specialist Ronen Solomon clearly show damage consistent with an attack against bunkers in a central locality within the military research complex at the Parchin military compound.

The locality in question is situated at the center of the compound, adjacent to another installation where, according to intelligence sources, the trials being conducted involve controlled detonation of fuzes intended to serve as triggers for nuclear devices. The locality consists of a sizable testing center and what appears to be an area with bunker-shaped structures.
I don’t want to reproduce the photos here since it’s their scoop, so follow the link and click the image at Israel Defense to see a large before-and-after comparison. There are indeed some buildings missing as well as signs of scorching in another area. There doesn’t seem to be much debris, which you would think would be clearly visible in the footprint of the buildings that have vanished, but there do appear to be large trucks on the scene. Maybe Iran ordered a hurried clean-up between the evening of October 5th, when the fire/explosion happened, and October 7th, when the latest satellite images were taken. Could the rubble from multiple buildings be cleared away that quickly?

Another western defense shop, the Institute for Science and International Security (a.k.a., er, ISIS), had the same idea as Israel Defense and looked at the latest satellite photos too. Their analysis is in PDF form but I highly recommend having a look, as the photos are not only helpfully marked but they include a wide shot of most of the base so that you can see where the attack site is vis-a-vis other key locations. Takeaway:

Several signatures that coincide with those expected from an explosion site are visible here. Two buildings that were present in August 2014 are no longer there, while a third building appears to be severely damaged. In total at least six buildings appear damaged or destroyed. Several trucks are present at the site. The shape and size of these trucks is consistent with those of either fire or debris removal trucks. The irregular line and color of the vegetation seems to indicate that some unexpected activity took place (possibly a fire, explosion, scattering of debris etc.). Finally, grey debris is visible at the center of the potential explosion area and is also scattered into the surrouding vegetation.

However, it is important to highlight that a section of the Parchin military complex was not analyzed by ISIS because it was missing from the most recent satellite imagery purchased from Airbus for unexplained reasons. This site is believed to house many buildings possibly dedicated to munition manufacturing, location where an explosion could potentially take place. Therefore, ISIS will be waiting for additional satellite imagery before reaching a final conclusion on the location of the blast.

In other words, they think they’ve found evidence of where a fire/explosion happened recently at Parchin, but since the most recent satellite photos don’t show the entire base, they can’t say if other parts of the base might have been damaged too. All of which seems straightforward — until you look at the first photo (Figure 1) in the ISIS PDF. It turns out the damaged site isn’t located in the parts of the base that have drawn the west’s nuclear suspicions. If this was an attack, in other words, why attack this location instead of the munitions areas or the suspected atomic-component testing areas? Two obvious possibilities. One: The attacker had reason to believe from its own intelligence that something important was going on in the targeted area, despite the fact that it hasn’t raised western suspicions before. Or two: There was no attacker and this really was some sort of accidental fire/explosion in a relatively innocuous part of Parchin.

I’ll leave you with one more thought, in case you’re inclined towards theory two. Judging by the damage, whatever happened doesn’t seem enormous enough to have shattered windows miles away. But if you look at the “after” photo of the damaged area in ISIS’s PDF, you’ll see that buildings damaged by the mystery event aren’t all adjacent to each other. There are some scorched buildings in the upper left corner of the photo, then a bunch of untouched buildings in the center, and then lots of damage on the right. How would a fire or accidental explosion skip over the buildings in the center? Seems like an attack that specifically targeted the damaged buildings is more likely.
 
Misplaced optimism by Rouhani?

Reuters

Iran's president says nuclear deal with West 'certain'

DUBAI (Reuters) - Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said on Monday a nuclear deal with the West was bound to happen and he believed it could be achieved by a November 24 deadline.

"We have reached consensus on generalities and there are only the fine details to be worked out: whether we would reach an agreement within the next 40 days, if the time will be extended, etc.," the president told his people in a late evening address broadcast live on television.

"Of course details are important too, but what's important is that the nuclear issue is irreversible. I think a final settlement can be achieved in these remaining 40 days. We will not return to the situation a year ago. The world is tired and wants it to end, resolved through negotiations," he said.

"A nuclear settlement is certain," he said, vowing to "apply all our efforts in that direction."

Rouhani, a moderate elected by a landslide 14 months ago partly on promises to end hostilities with the West, cautioned nevertheless that "a 12-year-old dilemma cannot be resolved overnight."


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We'll see what Nov. 24 will bring...and whether the current US administration wasn't careful enough in dealing with Tehran...

Reuters

Iran, U.S. say some headway made in 'difficult' nuclear talks
Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:28pm EDT

By Parisa Hafezi and Fredrik Dahl

VIENNA (Reuters) - Iran and the United States said they made some progress in high-level nuclear talks but much work remained to clinch a breakthrough deal by a late-November deadline.

Both sides said they still aimed to meet the self-imposed Nov. 24 date, despite doubts among many experts that they can reach a full agreement to end a decade-old dispute over Tehran's nuclear program with just a few weeks remaining.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry left Vienna early on Thursday after six hours of talks with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton the previous day, but his officials remained to continue the talks through Thursday.

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It won't be long till Tehran blames Israel...  :boring:

Reuters

Iran says foils bid to sabotage nuclear heavy-water tanks: newspaper
Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:21am EDT

ANKARA (Reuters) - Iran has foiled an attempt to sabotage tanks used for transporting heavy water, which is needed to run some nuclear reactors, and blames a "foreign country" for the incident, a senior official was quoted by local media as saying.

The Islamic Republic is at odds with the West over suspicions it is covertly using its declared civilian atomic energy program to develop a nuclear arms capability. It denies this and has repeatedly accused certain Western states of trying to cripple the program through acts of sabotage.

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The implications for Iran with the current lowering of worldwide oil prices:

CNBC

Iran a 'time bomb' for oil prices
CNBC

Markets should look for "a significant additional political risk premium on the price of Brent" if nuclear arms talks between Iran and major world powers break down, Nomura has warned.

If Iran walks away from the negotiation table over the proliferation of nuclear weapons technology in the country, markets could easily be spooked over the region's stability and that could affect the price of Brent , which has tumbled since June, Nomura's senior political analyst Alastair Newton said in a note Thursday.

"Iran could bring politics very much to the fore again in determining the price of Brent crude before year-end," Newton warned.

Brent crude for December delivery fell below $86 a barrel on Friday to $85.41 as a stronger dollar and over-supply combined to put pressure on the benchmark. The price has slipped more than 9 percent so far in October, its biggest monthly drop since May 2012, and a quarter since June.

The deadline for the completion of negotiations between Tehran and the so-called P5+1 group which comprises the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (China, Russia, France, the U.K. and the U.S.) plus Germany is on November 24.

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Iran, as well as Russia and several other nations would very much like the price of oil to rise, since the current low prices are cutting off revenue and financial resources and crimping their ability to act. Look for more of this, as well as "lawfare" being raised against the oil sands and US shale oil and "fracking" to restrict competing suppliers on the international market.
 
Surprise, surprise. Iran doesn't want normalizing relations with the "Great Satan"...but still want nuclear concessions? The Ayatollahs don't realize "they can't both have their cake and eat it" so to say.

Reuters

Iran hardliners want nuclear deal but no ties with Washington
Wed Nov 5, 2014 11:58am EST

By Parisa Hafezi and Mehrdad Balali

ANKARA/DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran may be ready to reach a nuclear deal with world powers to revive its economy, but is in no rush to go further by restoring relations with the United States, calculating this would imperil its domestic support.

According to one official, hardline loyalists of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei have reached a compromise with supporters of the pragmatic president: Tehran should try to win relief from international sanctions by resolving the nuclear dispute, but not normalize ties with "the Great Satan".

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The Ayatollahs don't realize "they can't both have their cake and eat it" so to say.

Do you realize who is leading the negotiations representing who's world view and the view of the USA?

I would not be surprised if we woke up one morning in the near future to news of a nuc test in Iran with or without an agreement.
 
To prove my point above:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamas-secret-letter-to-iran/article/2555867

Obama's secret letter to Iran

By Kelly Cohen | November 6, 2014

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei received a secret letter from an unlikely person last month: President Obama.

In the midst of airstrikes against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Obama reportedly sent Iran’s Supreme Leader a letter in the middle of October, expressing the importance of cooperation in fighting the militants, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Obama also hinted that cooperation on fighting the Islamic State would directly affect looming discussions of a comprehensive agreement on the future of Iran’s nuclear power by the Nov. 24 diplomatic deadline, the sources also told the Wall Street Journal.

In recent days, the White House has said the chances for an agreement with Tehran are only 50-50.

This is the fourth time Obama has written to Khamenei since he took office in 2009, part of a pledge made by Obama to engage Iran’s government more frequently.

The United States’ other Middle East allies, including Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, were not briefed on the letter.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest declined to comment on what he called “private correspondence” between the president and world leaders, but did not deny the letter’s existence.

“I don’t trust the Iranians, I don’t think we need to bring them into this,” House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said when asked about the letter.


http://thehill.com/policy/defense/policy-strategy/223244-mccain-rips-wh-for-playing-footsie-with-iran

McCain rips WH for ‘playing footsie’ with Iran


By Martin Matishak - 11/06/14

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Thursday the Obama administration is not carrying out more airstrikes against Islamic militants inside Syria because it is instead “playing footsie” with Iran.

“There are reports that one of the reasons why we are not attacking [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad is because we are trying to look at some kind of arrangements with the Iranians,” the top Republican the on Senate Armed Services Committee said in an interview with MSNBC, without citing examples. 

“It's, as I say, it's immoral and shameful and somehow we are playing footsie with the Iranians and hope that they will somehow have an effect on ISIS,” said McCain, who is poised to serve as chairman of the committee next year.

The administration is on its heels after a report that the president sent a secret letter to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei arguing that Washington and Tehran had a shared interest in fighting ISIS, or the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest would neither confirm nor deny the missive had been sent.

"I'm not in a position to discuss private correspondence between the president and any world leader," he said.

The letter could mark a reversal in White House policy that the U.S. would not make concessions in ongoing nuclear talks with Iran for Tehran’s help in the ISIS fight.

McCain said that, “on the nuclear issue, we have already given away the store by allowing them to the right to enrich and not putting in check both the development of warheads and the means to deliver them.”

He called the talks a “misguided effort to somehow accommodate and get better relations with a country that is spreading disorder and unrest throughout the region.”

However, McCain said he would work with other Senate lawmakers to craft a new authorization for the use of military force against ISIS, something the president asked for on Wednesday during a post-election news conference.

“The last authorization specifically mentioned the 9/11 attacks and those responsible for it. So it should be updated. But I want to do it very carefully,” McCain said. “We'll sit down and try and work this out. It is necessary.”

The five-term lawmaker went on to lambaste the administration’s policy toward Yemen.

“Yemen, by the way, that is our enemy. They are not our friend. They are our enemy,” he said. “And we are treating them as somebody that we can continue to do business with.”

He then skewered the White House over its handling of the 2009 “Green Movement” in Iran and said Georgia was “swinging more pro-Russian” after its defense minister was sacked.

As for Syria, McCain said that every time the U.S.-led coalition strikes ISIS fighters, the Assad regime steps up its attacks on rebel forces inside the country.

“So this is a foreign policy that is off the rails,” according to McCain. 


 
Can anyone spell Munich?

Kerry is desperate to get an agreement as well as Obama for his legacy. To hell with anything else.

If you cannot get the agreement, walk away. I cannot imagine the risk to the non Muslim world with Iran having a nec. They don't have to use it themselves. Iran could/will give it to a third party.

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Do you realize who is leading the negotiations representing who's world view and the view of the USA?

I would not be surprised if we woke up one morning in the near future to news of a nuc test in Iran with or without an agreement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/deadline-for-iran-nuclear-deal-looms-russia-china-could-join-talks/2014/11/23/a29a8a12-7309-11e4-a5b2-e1217af6b33d_story.html

U.S. proposes extending talks with Iran as pessimism about nuclear deal grows

By Carol Morello November 23

VIENNA — The United States on Sunday proposed extending an interim agreement with Iran in a recognition that talks to settle deep differences over Tehran’s nuclear program were unlikely to succeed before a deadline just one day away.

Secretary of State John F. Kerry formally raised the issue of an extension in an evening meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, according to a senior State Department official. It was their second meeting on Sunday, a day in which Kerry shuttled between talks with European allies and the Iranian negotiating team.

An extension is one of several alternatives under discussion, the official said.

“This does not mean that we are not continuing to discuss the broad range of difficult issues and working to make progress on all the issues that need to be part of a comprehensive agreement,” the official said.

In addition to his meetings with his Iranian counterpart, Kerry held talks with the foreign ministers of Britain, France, Germany and Russia. China’s envoy was expected, as well, rounding out the group of nations negotiating with Iran to limit its nuclear capability in exchange for an easing of international sanctions on the country.

Nevertheless, there was growing acceptance that the remaining differences could not be bridged by midnight Monday. That is when an interim accord, already extended once, expires.

The hang-ups are few in number but wide in substance. One of the most important is how many uranium-enriching centrifuges and stockpiles Iran will be permitted to keep for what it insists are peaceful, civilian purposes. Divisions also remain over the pace at which sanctions would be eased if Iran makes concessions and over how many years the country’s nuclear program would be monitored.

On ABC’s Sunday talk show, “This Week,” President Obama said the interim agreement had successfully rolled back Iran’s nuclear capacity, but he expressed doubt about whether the “significant” gaps could be bridged to achieve a permanent accord.

“I think that our goal has consistently been to shut off a whole bunch of different avenues whereby Iran might get a nuclear weapon and at the same time make sure that the structure of sanctions are rolled back step for step as Iran is doing what it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I think Iran would love to see the sanctions end immediately and then to still have some avenues that might not be completely closed, and we can’t do that.”

A delay carries political complications for Washington and Tehran. It could hamper the Obama administration’s ability to get congressional approval for easing sanctions against Iran, with Republicans poised to gain control of Capitol Hill in January. It also could embolden Iranian hard-liners opposed to any agreement involving the United States.

The sanctions are hurting a broad spectrum of Iranian society, particularly as oil prices fall. But some Iranians remain reluctant to cede ground in the dispute, seeing nuclear reactors as crucial to their future.

A group of Iranian students protested Sunday at the site of a reactor in Tehran, demanding that Iran not cave in and reduce its nuclear capacity. According to the Fars News Agency, the students chanted, “Nuclear energy is our inalienable right.”

Recent analyses in the Iranian news media have portrayed Saudi Arabia, Iran’s regional rival, and Israel, often referred to as “the Zionist regime,” as the main roadblocks to a deal.

Kerry has kept both countries apprised of the talks. On Sunday, he went to the Vienna airport to update the Saudi foreign minister aboard his plane, which was sitting on the runway.

In Israel, where skepticism over a long-term deal with Iran is strong, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at the weekly cabinet meeting Sunday that he was pressing a “vigorous” case that Iran not be allowed to become a “nuclear threshold state.”

“No agreement at all would be preferable to a bad agreement that would endanger Israel, the Middle East and all of humanity,” said Netanyahu, whom Kerry telephoned Saturday evening to give an update on the status of the talks.

William Booth in Jerusalem contributed to this report.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/24/diplomat-agreement-being-formed-for-7-month-extension-iran-nuclear-talks/

Iran nuclear talks to be extended until July

Associated Press - Published November 24, 2014

VIENNA –  Facing still significant differences between the U.S. and Iran, negotiators gave up on last-minute efforts to get a nuclear deal by the Monday deadline and extended their talks for another seven months.

The move gives both sides breathing space to work out an agreement but may be badly received by domestic sceptics, since it extends more than a decade of diplomatic efforts to curb Iran's nuclear prowess.

International negotiators are worried that Iran is using its nuclear development program as a cover for developing nuclear weapons and they have imposed economic sanctions on Tehran. Iran denies the charge, saying it is only interested peaceful nuclear programs like producing power.

After a frenetic six days of diplomacy in Vienna, negotiators agreed Monday to nail down by March 1 what needs to be done by Iran and the six world powers it is negotiating with and by when. A final agreement is meant to follow four months later.

Comments by key players in the talks suggested not much was agreed on in Vienna beyond the decision to keep talking. The next negotiating round was set for early December but the venue is unclear.

The decision appears to benefit Iran. Its nuclear program is left frozen but intact, without any of the cuts sought by the U.S. And while negotiations continue, so will dole-outs of monthly $700 million in frozen funds that began under the temporary nuclear deal agreed on late last year that led to the present talks.

British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said the sides were giving themselves until March to agree on a text "that sets out in layman's language what we have agreed to do." Experts then will be given another four months to "translate that into precise definitions of what will happen on the ground," he told reporters.

Even the new deadline for a final deal was not immediately clear, with negotiators saying it was July 1, and Hammond fixing it at June 30.

Past talks have often ended on an acrimonious note, with each side blaming the other for lack of a deal. But mindful of hard discussions ahead, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry focused on praise, in an apparent attempt to maintain a relatively cordial atmosphere at the negotiating table.

Kerry, who arrived Thursday and met repeatedly with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohamad Javad Zarif, said Zarif "worked diligently and approached these negotiations in good faith."

"We have made real and substantial progress and we have seen new ideas surface," he told reporters. "Today we are closer to a deal that will make the whole world, especially our allies in Israel and the Gulf, safer."

Hammond and other foreign ministers of the six powers also sought to put a good face on what was achieved. Hammond spoke of "significant progress," while German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said only differences about "technical details" remained.

But the length of the extension suggested that both sides felt plenty of time was needed to overcome the disputes on how much Iran needed to restrict nuclear activities that could be used to make weapons in exchange for relief from sanctions imposed over its nuclear program.

"All the people involved here feel that there really is a chance to find out a way to each other and we are going to take that chance," Steinmeier said about the decision to extend.

But obstacles far from the negotiating table could complicate the process.

Members of the new Republican-controlled U.S. Congress that will be sworn in in January have already threatened to impose additional sanctions on Iran and may well have enough votes to overturn an expected veto of such legislation by President Barack Obama.

New sanctions could very well derail the talks, as Iran has signaled they would be a deal breaker, and Kerry appealed to Congress to "support ... this extension."

In Tehran, hardliners fearful that their country could give away more than it gets under any final deal could increase pressure on Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to break off talks. The talks extension, however, appears to have the approval of Khamenei, who is the ultimate arbiter in his country.

Among other issues, the two sides are haggling over how many -- and what kind -- of centrifuges Iran should be allowed to have. The machines can enrich uranium from low, reactor-fuel level, up to grades used to build the core of a nuclear weapon, and their output grows according to how modern they are.

Washington wants deeper and more lasting cuts in the program than Tehran is willing to give.

Suggesting some movement on enrichment differences, Kerry told reporters, "Progress was made on some of the most vexing challenges that we face."

An extension was widely expected as the deadline approached with neither side having the appetite for new confrontation that would renew the threat of military action against Iran by Israel and potentially the U.S. as well as tighten the sanctions regime on Tehran.

Alluding to that alternative, Kerry declared: "We would be fools to walk away."

YOU ARE A FOOL.
 
Iran taking a more direct role in Iraq against ISIS? Take note that Tehran also reportedly sent 4 Su25 Frogfoots to operate from Iraqi airbases against ISIS.

Iranian Phantom jet strikes the Islamic State in Iraq

Source: Janes

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Footage aired by Al Jazeera shows at least one F-4 Phantom II jet striking the Islamic State in Iraq. Given the location of the incident near Iraq's eastern border, it is most likely that this is an Iranian jet.

While the IRIAF is known to have contributed Sukhoi Su-25 'Frogfoot' ground attack aircraft to the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq (ostensibly donated to the Iraqi Air Force, but believed to be crewed by Iranian pilots), this footage is the first visual evidence of direct IRIAF involvement in the conflict.

The Al Jazeera footage, which was shot on 30 November, shows the IRIAF F-4 supporting Iraqi forces retaking the town of Sa'adiya in what was purported to be the government's largest operation against the Islamic State since June. Its release comes weeks after IHS Jane's reported growing evidence of Iranian involvement in the war in Iraq.

Video footage and photographs shown on social media sites have increasingly been showing Iranian military hardware in the hands of Shia militias fighting in Iraq. This hardware includes the 12.7 mm AM-50 anti-materiel rifle, at least one Iranian-made Safir jeep mounted with a 107 mm multiple rocket launcher (MRL), as well as an Iranian 122 mm HM 20 MRL.
 
Iran's involvement against IS** and the various sub groups, splinter groups and other forces in the region has been well known for about a year, since the revolt against the Assad Regime picked up steam. ISIS represents both a direct physical threat to Iranian ambitions in the region (knocking out Syria and taking over Iraq would demolish Iran's dreams of regional hegemony) and an ideological/religious threat as well (the Iranians consider ISIS a bunch of Apostates, and ISIS returns the favour).

Iranian supplies have flowed to Assad via an air bridge, Hezbollah fighters have been thrown into the conflict to keep supply lines open to Lebanon and Quds brigade fighters and officers have been actively in the fight as well. The Iranians hate us, ISIS hates us, so why not just sit back and let them fight it out? Keeping an eye out for our few friends in the region (Israel, Jordan, the Kurds and probably the Baloch people) and working to push the battles back into "the ring" if they start to go out of control is really all we should be spending our own blood and treasure on.
 
Tehran and Washington watching each other's moves in Iraq:

Defense News

US, Iranian Forces Operate In Separate Areas In Iraq, Officials Say
Dec. 3, 2014 - 08:26PM  |  By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE

WASHINGTON — Recent Iranian airstrikes against Islamic State jihadists in Iraq took place in an eastern region where US warplanes do not operate, the Pentagon said Wednesday, reflecting an accommodation between the two traditional rivals in their fight against a common enemy.

US defense officials said air raids by Iranian F-4 Phantom fighters over the weekend targeting were part of a pattern in which Iranian or American military advisers have carved out separate spheres in Iraq.

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Reuters

Warily, U.S. learns to live with more muscular Iran role in Iraq

By Phil Stewart and Warren Strobel

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and Iran, which dueled viciously over Iraq during the years of U.S. occupation, suddenly seem to be working in tandem as they confront what both see as a common, even mortal enemy: Islamic State.

Air strikes by Iran inside Iraq in recent days are only the latest manifestation of an increasingly muscular role by Tehran in Baghdad's war against Sunni militants. During the administration of George W. Bush, such actions would be denounced as meddling.

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So you think that Iran, Turkey and whatever Iraq has left will be enough to reign in the IS* threat?
Somehow, I see them (except for Iraq) doing the least possible to barely keep IS* at bay and from total dominion of the currently conquered land.
Maybe it's in the news I read, but I have no idea what sense of urgency there is within Iran to contain IS*.
 
cryco said:
So you think that Iran, Turkey and whatever Iraq has left will be enough to reign in the IS* threat?
Somehow, I see them (except for Iraq) doing the least possible to barely keep IS* at bay and from total dominion of the currently conquered land.
Maybe it's in the news I read, but I have no idea what sense of urgency there is within Iran to contain IS*.
Picture the Irish troubles on steroids.  The Persians do not believe that ISIS should even use the word Allah.  On the other hand, ISIS would happily slit the throat of any Iranian caught on the ground.  If Iran can stop ISIS in Syria it simply means they won't have to fight them in their own country.  That is the urgency.
 
And speaking of Iran's more direct role in Iraq, the notorious General Suleimani is in the news again:

Business Insider

Iran's Military Mastermind Is 'The Leader Of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, And Yemen'
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As the US provides air cover for Iranian-backed militias fighting ISIS (aka the Islamic State, ISIL, and/or Daesh) in Iraq, t he longest continuously serving American official in the country has strong opinions about who is in control.

Ali Khedery, who served as a special assistant to five US ambassadors and a senior adviser to three heads of US Central Command between 2003 and 2009, told The New York Times: “For the Iranians, really, the gloves are off.”

He highlighted the role of Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Qods Force, the foreign arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps. Qods is  directing sectarian militias in both Iraq and Syria. At the same time, Suleimani is nurturing the guerilla proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthis rebel group in Yemen — in other words, he is controlling powerful Shia proxies all across the Middle East.

“Suleimani is the leader of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen,” Khedery said. “Iraq is not sovereign. It is led by Suleimani, and his boss, [Iranian Supreme Leader] Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei."

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Suicide drone sounds so much more heinous than cruise missile. :P

I wonder if these will be seen flying missions into Iraq any time soon.
Iran tests suicide drone in massive military exercise
The Associated Press
CTV NEWS
27 Dec 2014

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's army has deployed a suicide drone for the first time in massive ongoing military drills near the strategic Strait of Hormuz at the entrance to the Persian Gulf.

Gen. Ahmad Reza Pourdastan, the army's chief commander of ground forces, is quoted by Iranian state media Saturday as calling the unmanned aircraft "a mobile bomb." The drone, named Yasir according to one Iranian newspaper, has been designed to plunge into aerial and ground targets, as well as ships.

The six-day military exercise is being carried out over 850,000 square kilometres in the northern part of the Indian Ocean, Sea of Oman and the eastern part of the Persian Gulf, through which one-fifth of the world's oil supply passes.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/iran-tests-suicide-drone-in-massive-military-exercise-1.2163339
 
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