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India (Superthread)

MarkOttawa said:
Corruption? What stinking corruption? And what stinking torture?
http://unambig.com/corruption-what-stinking-corruption-and-what-stinking-torture/

Mark
Ottawa


There is, indeed, corruption in India; ditto the USA - which is too far down the Transparency Index for its own good. There is, indeed, torture in India; ditto the USA - personally approved by the President of the USA just a few (a single digit few) years ago. Should we eschew trade links with America, too? None of our trading partners are perfect; some are farther from being perfect than others; are we our brother's trading partners' keepers? Can we really do enough trade with just Norway and New Zealand to stay in business?
 
E.R. Campbell: India is several degrees worse than the US on both fronts.  My point is not to eschew trade ties but to point out Canadian hypocrisy in selectively and relentlessly bashing Afstan for things we just don't even talk about when lots of money is hoped to be made.  Our relations with China are now equally selective in taking supposed principles seriously.

I just want us to shut the moralizing .... up and be honest.  We do Realpolitik too.

Mark
Ottawa
 
Corruption? What stinking corruption? Part 2
http://unambig.com/corruption-what-stinking-corruption-part-2/

Mark
Ottawa
 
Imagine the howls here if our PM even tried to sell LAV IIIs to India--or complete reactors:

Nuclear power and fighter planes on Sarkozy’s India wish list
http://www.france24.com/en/20101204-nuclear-power-fighter-planes-sarkozy-india-wish-list-g20-reforms-singh-taj-majal-carla-bruni

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AP - President Nicolas Sarkozy arrived Saturday on a four-day visit to India, seeking to drum up business for French firms, with a deal expected on building nuclear plants to feed the Asian giant’s burgeoning energy needs...

Sarkozy is accompanied by his defense, foreign and finance ministers and nearly 60 CEOs of French companies. Although no defense agreements are expected during the visit, he is expected to push for French firms to win contracts to supply military hardware.

French companies are negotiating to upgrade 51 Mirage-2000 jet fighters of the Indian air force. India is also in the market to buy 126 fighter jets, a deal worth $11 billion, and nearly 200 helicopters worth another $4 billion.

According to defense experts, New Delhi is expected to spend $80 billion between 2012 and 2022 to upgrade its military.

France is also hoping to benefit from India’s decision to build nearly 20 nuclear power plants.

France is well-placed to cash in, as it has steadily supported India’s nuclear program and resisted sanctions imposed by many developed nations when India tested a nuclear weapons in 1998 [emphasis added].

French nuclear power company, Areva SA, emerged as the front-runner to set up two of six power plants in the western Indian state of Maharashtra...

Some countries and peoples understand raison d'état.

Mark
Ottawa
 
On verra:

Russia, India Link Up On Aircraft Production
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/asd/2010/12/21/01.xml

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NEW DELHI — India and Russia have registered a joint venture called Medium Transport Aircraft Ltd. that will develop and manufacture products with India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL), according to United Aircraft Corp. President Alexei Fyodorov.

“It will be in the market in six to seven years,” Fyodorov tells Aviation Week. “We are also considering working on unmanned aerial vehicles with India. But it is still in the early stages.”

More than 25 agreements were signed between Russian and Indian companies here in the areas of life sciences, energy, navigation and information technology during the visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, which runs Dec. 20-22.

India and Russia also will conclude a preliminary design contract for their joint fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project (Aerospace DAILY, Dec. 17). The FGFA is based on the Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA, which flew for the first time last January at the  Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility in Siberia. The second prototype will fly in early 2011, Fyodorov says. The third prototype will have more advanced systems.

“Once the approvals are through, we will start the actual detailed work,” HAL Chairman Ashok Nayak tells Aviation Week.

Each 30-ton aircraft is priced at around $100 million. “It would be a swing-role fighter with highly advanced avionics, giving 360-deg. situational awareness, stealth to increase survivability and smart weapons,” says P.K. Naik, Indian air force chief. The aircraft is expected to join the Indian service between 2017 and 2020 [emphasis added]...

Mark
Ottawa
 
India and US airlifters--Boeing will be esp. happy keeping the C-17 line going:

India's first C-130 heads for base in 2011
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2010/12/30/Indias-first-C-130-heads-for-base-in-2011/UPI-54161293709020/

NEW DELHI, Dec. 30 (UPI) -- India's first two Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules aircraft will be flown from the United States to their home base at Hindon early next year.

Lockheed Martin handed over the first C-130J to the Indian air force earlier this month as part of an order for six aircraft. The $1.2 billion U.S. Foreign Military Sale -- India's first -- was signed in late 2008 at the DefExpo exhibition in New Delhi.

It was a breakthrough at the time for Lockheed Martin into India's military transport market...

From November:

$4.1bn C-17 aircraft deal set to get bigger, 6 more coming
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/41bn-C-17-aircraft-deal-set-to-get-bigger-6-more-coming/articleshow/6891632.cms

NEW DELHI: The biggest Indo-US defence deal in the pipeline, the $4.1-billion for 10 C-17 Globemaster-III giant strategic airlift aircraft, could get even bigger. India may well order another six C-17s after the first 10.

The impending final contract for 10 C-17s is in tune with India's aim to have swift power projection capabilities, with the region spanning from Persian Gulf to Malacca Strait being seen as the country's ''primary area of geo-strategic interest''...

The contract for 10 C-17s, with all its final costs, offsets, training packages and the like, is ''close'' to being inked now. As earlier reported by TOI, India is buying the Globemasters under US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme in a direct government-to-government deal. Rubbishing criticism that India should have floated a global tender for such a big contract, ACM Naik said, ''We did a comprehensive evaluation of all such available aircraft in the world. The C-17s best met our requirements [emphasis added, made sense for us too].''

Mark
Ottawa
 
Two updates, one military and one related to population:

French carrier in India for joint naval drill
2011-01-06 17:50:00

New Delhi, Jan 6 (IANS) The French Navy's nuclear-propelled aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle will participate in a week-long joint exercise with the Indian Navy off Goa from Friday that will see the navy fielding aircraft carrier INS Viraat along with destroyers and a submarine.

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Charles de Gaulle

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INS Viraat

The bilateral exercise - Varuna 10 - will see destroyers, frigates, tankers and submarines from both sides participating, a navy spokesperson said.

The French Navy will be represented by ships from the French Carrier Strike Group, designated Task Force 473 and mainly based at Toulon, France.

The Task Force includes the 38,000-tonne aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle, destroyers FNS Forbin and FNS Tourville, supply ship FNS Meuse and nuclear powered submarine FNS Amethyste.

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FNS Forbin

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FNS Tourville

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FNS Meuse

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FNS Amethyste

'Aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle will be carrying its complement of fighter aircraft, Rafale and Super Etendard, airborne early warning aircraft E2C Hawkeye and integral helicopters,' the spokesperson said.

This will be the second time that Charles de Gaulle -- the flagship of the French Navy and the first and only nuclear-powered carrier built outside of the US Navy -- will be participating in an exercise with the Indian Navy. The warship was in India last in 2006.

Besides aircraft carrier INS Viraat, the Indian Navy will be represented by two indigenous frigates INS Godavari and INS Ganga and Shishumar class submarine INS Shalki.

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INS Godavari

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INS Ganga

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INS Shalki

Sea Harrier fighters, fixed and rotary wing aircraft are also scheduled to participate in the exercise.

The harbour phase is scheduled from Jan 7 to 10 and the sea phase will be conducted in the Arabian sea from Jan 11 to 14.

The scope of Varuna includes the entire gamut of maritime operations ranging from aircraft carrier operations, anti-submarine warfare operations and maritime interdiction operations exercises.

The Indian and the French navies have been conducting bilateral naval exercises since May 1993.

However, it was from 2001 that bilateral exercise was been called 'Varuna'.

Till date, eleven such exercises have been conducted. The last exercise was conducted off Brest in France June 27-July 4 last year to coincide with the overseas deployment of Indian Navy ships to the Mediterranean and the Atlantic.

The bilateral exercise aims at deriving mutual benefit from the experiences of the two navies.

'The understanding and confidence gained through such exercises has helped cooperation in anti-piracy operations and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations. This exercise will further strengthen the cooperation and coordination,' the spokesperson said.

Most of the world's energy carriers transit through the Indian Ocean region. Due to increasing piracy and maritime terrorism, navies of several countries have been cooperating with each other to strengthen maritime security in the region.

'Naval cooperation between India and the France epitomises this and is in the long term interests of both countries. Both navies have, over the years, undertaken bilateral activities such as exercises at sea, training visits and courses, information exchange, and technical cooperation. The navies have significant convergence of interests, especially in maritime security in this region,' said the navy spokesperson.

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This second one dealing with population is not that surprising considering previous discussions related to the effect of China's "one-child policy" and Thucydides' posts about China "becoming the first gay superpower since Sparta".  ;D


Indians to outnumber Chinese in 2025: US
By Indranil Mukherjee | Agence France-Presse – 23 minutes ago

The Sydney Morning Herald … - 17 minutes ago

Indians to outnumber Chinese in 2025
ABC News - Wed, 29 Dec 3:33 PM EST
....India is on course to top China as the world's most populous country in 2025, the US Census Bureau forecast, potentially changing the dynamics between the Asian giants.

The latest Census Bureau estimates out this week, which are in line with previous studies, predicted that India would have 1.396 billion people in 2025, surpassing China, whose population growth is more modest.

China since 1980 has allowed most women to bear only one child, in a controversial policy aimed at creating a more sustainable population.

The average Chinese woman now has 1.5 children in her lifetime, compared with 2.7 children for the average Indian woman, although the so-called fertility rate has also been declining in India due to rising education and urbanization.

The demographic shift could affect the Asian powers' economies, which are now among the world's fastest.

China has enjoyed a stronger growth rate than India as young people flock to manufacturing hubs that pump out exports for the world. But China in coming years will likely face a shrinking labor force and a mass of pensioners.

The US Census Bureau forecast that the ranking of the largest countries would otherwise remain the same in the coming 15 years.

The United States -- whose population is growing more quickly than most wealthy countries, albeit at a slower rate than in recent decades -- will remain the third largest nation, followed by Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nigeria, the figures showed.

Countries expected to fall in population rank include Japan, Russia and Germany, whose birth rates have been low for years. Japan, now the 10th most populous country, will fall to 20th place in 2050, the Census Bureau forecast.

Ethiopia is experiencing rapid population growth and is expected to become the sixth most populous country in 2050, the figures showed.


Other countries expected to rise in population rank include the Democratic Republic of Congo, which has one of the world's highest fertility rates at 5.4 children per woman.

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India getting the aircraft (with Canadian content) I think the CF want to replace Auroras:

P-8i: India’s Navy Picks Its Future High-End Maritime Patrol Aircraft 
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/indias-navy-holding-maritime-patrol-aircraft-competition-updated-01991/

CAE helps India get its MAD on. (Jan 20/11)

In December 2005, India’s navy floated an RFP for at least 8 new sea control aircraft. Subsequent statements by India’s Admiral Prakash suggested that they could be looking for as many as 30 aircraft by 2020. Lockheed was invited to bid again, and this time, they were not alone. Bids from a variety of contenders were submitted in April 2007. The plan was for price negotiations to be completed in 2007, with first deliveries to commence within 48 months.

India’s Ministry of Defence has extreme problems with announced schedules, but their existing fleet was wearing out, international requests for India’s maritime patrol help are rising, and some action was necessary. By January 2009, India had picked its aircraft: the 737-derivative P-8i Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft. DID discusses the geopolitical drivers, the current fleet, the known competitors – and Boeing’s 737-base P-8i, which emerged as the winner…

Jan 20/11: CAE in Montreal, QB, Canada announces a subcontract from Boeing to provide its AN/ASQ-508A Advanced Integrated Magnetic Anomaly Detection (MAD) System for India’s 8 P-8is. The value is cloaked by its presence within a scattershot set of announcements worth a total of “more than $140 million.”
http://www.cae.com/news/details.ashx?lng=English&location=InvestorsNR&showEvents=False&count=0&id=1168&year=2011

MAD systems work by identifying magnetic variations or anomalies caused by large metal objects, such as a submarine, in the Earth’s magnetic field. CAE’s MAD system is already in use by a number of countries and platforms: P-3 Orion derivatives flown by Brazil, Canada, and South Korea; Turkey’s CN-235MP and ATR-72 MPAs; Chile’s C-295 MPAs; and Japan’s locally-developed XP-1 maritime patrol aircraft...

Mark
Ottawa
 
US going great guns for Indian defence sales (lengthy Indian article, note problem for F-35 from Russian/Indian 5G fighter--via Spotlight on Military News and International Affairs
http://www.cfc.forces.gc.ca/257-eng.html

US offers F35 JSF to India as India-US Defence Cooperation grows
But Technology Transfer will be an issue

http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories462.htm

Representatives of Lockheed Martin, which is developing the aircraft, have indicated in the past that the aircraft could be available to India if the Indian Air Force (IAF) opted for the F-16 Super Viper in its quest for some 200 Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MRCAs) but recently, the company made a presentation to the Indian Navy without this condition.

Lockheed Martin’s Vice President for Business Development Orville Prins told India Strategic that a presentation about the aircraft was made to the Indian Navy recently after it expressed interest in the newer generation of aircraft for its future carrier-based aircraft requirements.

The Indian Navy is buying 45 Mig 29Ks for the Gorshkov, or INS Vikramaditya, which it will get from Russia in 2012 and its first indigenous aircraft carrier. But for its second indigenous carrier, and possibly more in the future, the Navy is looking for a newer generation of aircraft as the carrier itself is likely to be bigger.

Although the best of the weapon systems in the US are developed by private companies, the funding for their research and development is provided by the Government which exercises full control on the resultant products and their sale to any foreign country. ToT is a serious issue and in most cases, technology, particularly source codes, is not shared even with Washington’s best allies in the West or East.

Lockheed Martin apparently made the presentation to India after authorization by the US Department of Defense (DOD), but Prins pointed out that the F 35 could be sold only after clearance from the US State Department, for which bilateral negotiations between New Delhi and Washington would need to be held once India expressed interest.

The US is steadily emerging as a new supplier of sophisticated arms to India...

It’s not much compared to what India still spends on defence trade with Russia but it is a significant beginning.

Over the last few weeks, the Indian Ministry of Defence has sent firm orders, or Letters of Request (LoR) for 10 C 17 Globemaster III strategic lift aircraft for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and 145 M 777 ultra light howitzers the Indian Army badly needs for its mountain operations [Pak, Chinese borders]...

Although India has placed a firm order for only 10 C 17s, with no options for now, Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal P V Naik had told India Strategic that IAF was looking at 20 aircraft [emphasis added].

Notably, IAF had also placed an order for six C 130J Special Operations aircraft with an option for six more in 2008 with the US Lockheed Martin...Lockheed Martin has offered to transfer the manufacturing facility to India if 40 or 50 aircraft are ordered for military and civil use, particularly in the mountainous north-east regions.

The Border Security Force (BSF) is also considering to buy one or two C 130Js, albeit without some specialized systems that the IAF needs...

Whether India joins the [F-35] production programme or not is an open question, depending upon the numbers required. The Indian Navy cannot have a large requirement and the Indian Air Force is already committed to buying the similar but perhaps more expensive Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) to be jointly produced by Russia’s Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association (KNAPPO) – which produces SU 30 jets – and India’s HAL [emphasis added].

The Russians have done substantial work in this regard, and hope to fly its single seat version by 2015-16 while the IAF hopes to induct its two-seat version by 2017 [good luck]...

...the US has been steadily opening its stable of sophisticated weapons to India. After the sale of Raytheon’s WLRs, which was actually the first combat system under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) received from the US after India’s nuclear tests in 1974 and 1998, the US has also sold eight highly advanced Boeing P8-I Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) to the Indian Navy to patrol the Indian Ocean. The aircraft is still under development, and significantly, will be available to the Indian Navy nearly at the same time as to the US Navy, which has paid for its development.

This was preceded by the transfer of an old amphibious ship, USS Trenton, renamed INS Jalashwa, and its six onboard Sikorsky utility helicopters at nominal costs for the Indian Navy...

Mark
Ottawa
 
The largest peacetime loss for the Indian Navy:

Worst-ever peacetime loss for Navy, frigate sinks after collision off Mumbai

In the worst ever peacetime loss for the Indian Navy, the heavily armed frigate INS Vindhyagiri went down in the Mumbai harbour after colliding with a merchant vessel. The 3,000 tonne warship, designed to take on enemy submarines and surface ships, sank Monday afternoon after catching fire after the collision with a Cyprus-flag container carrier, M V Nordlake 24 hours earlier.

The loss of the frigate — sources said a salvage would be difficult as the warship has touched bottom — sent shock waves through the naval community. Commentators said the incident was “ignominious” and had dented the Navy’s image.

The Leander class frigate, commissioned in 1981, hit the merchant vessel near the Sunkrock lighthouse within the pilotage area of the channel at 4.36 pm on Sunday, as it was entering the harbour after a ‘day at sea’ for families of sailors and officers. No one was hurt in the mishap.

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Supposed inside poop--plus some Mark I eyeballing (MiG 35, F-16 effectively out):

European fighters lead MMRCA race
http://www.indian-military.org/news-archives/indian-air-force-news/1368-european-fighters-lead-mmrca-race.html

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It was a no-holds-barred duel at Aero India 2011 for a $10-billion (Rs 45,500 crore) prize. Turn by turn, four of the world’s most advanced fighter aircraft roared into the sky, keenly aware of the watching eyes of Indian ministry of defence (MoD) officials who would decide which of them was best suited for the Indian Air Force’s order of 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA).
Their performances mirrored each fighter’s fortunes in the MMRCA race...

Lockheed Martin seems to know its India campaign is blighted. Over the past two months, company officials and even the Pentagon, the US defence headquarters, have shifted the focus to the F-35, the fifth generation stealth fighter that Lockheed Martin is developing. But while the Pentagon’s acquisition chief, Ashton Carter, has signalled American willingness to include India in the F-35 programme, the Indian MoD is not persuaded.

On getting a fifth generation fighter from the US, Antony replied, “Already we are engaged with Russia to produce a fifth generation fighter…. No other country has offered us these technologies in the past. We are way ahead now [in the partnership with Russia]. There is no question of going back.”

The other American contender, the F/A-18 Super Hornet, regaled spectators with a superb display of combat manoeuvring, Showcasing its history as a combat fighter, the F/A-18 was the only contender that flew with missiles fitted under its wings, which is avoided in aerobatics because of the resulting drag. But though the Super Hornet was the tightest turner, its aerobatics were conducted at slow speeds. That sluggishness is also true of its campaign in India.

“We scored the F/A-18 poorly during flight evaluation,” says an IAF officer who was closely involved.
That leaves the three European contenders: the Eurofighter (from a four-country consortium), the Dasault Rafale (from france) and the Saab Gripen (Sweden). Each of them put up a superb display of high-speed aerobatics, performing loops, barrel rolls, and spells of inverted flying that clearly pushed the boundaries of the aircrafts’ flight envelopes.

The Gripen showed enormous agility in its vertical handling, something that would allow it to climb above the enemy fighter in a dogfight, to an advantageous killing position. At the end of his display, the Gripen’s pilot displayed how little runway the fighter needs to land, stopping dead in barely 900 ft [emphasis added].

But IAF officers point out two key drawbacks to the Gripen’s campaign: “The Gripen’s AESA radar is the least developed of all the MMRCA contenders; and, being a single-engine fighter, it carries significantly less weaponry than the big twin-engine contenders.”
The twin-engine advantage was immediately evident when the Rafale and the Eurofighter took to the skies, lashing the spectators with a blast of sound. There was little to choose between both those aircraft, their High-G (sharp turn); High-Alpha (slow flying) aerobatics leaving the spectators clapping.

“The MMRCA contest is now between the Eurofighter and the Rafale,” says an IAF officer associated with the flight evaluation. “It will boil down to price. But if the MoD accepts a smaller fighter, with a radar that has some way to go, the economically-priced Gripen could be the dark horse that wins...

Mark
Ottawa
 
More (via Spotlight on Military News and International Affairs
http://www.cfc.forces.gc.ca/257-eng.html]:

Dogfight over $10b fighter deal
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/bengaluru/dogfight-over-10b-fighter-deal-869

It’s the biggest fighter jet import order in a long time, and for a long time. It’s the deal the world's great military-industrial powers have been waiting to clinch — the Indian Air Force's Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) purchase that could fetch the deal winner over $ 10 billion. And with Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik saying he expected India to have signed off on the deal by September, the dogfight between the contenders is intensifying.

Signs of that intensification were more than apparent during the Aero India show at the Yelahanka Air Force Station on Thursday, with some of the contenders — Lockheed Martin (F-16IN), Boeing (F/A-18), EADS (Eurofighter Typhoon), the French Dassault (Rafale), SAAB (Gripen) — making light or dismissing outright competitors.

Officials of the European contenders mocked Lockheed Martin's apparently recent bid to let the F-35 Fifth Generation fighter among the contending Fourth Generation fighters, saying that it was a sign of the F-16IN losing altitude in the contest. The world’s largest military equipment maker, they alleged, has sought to confuse Indian decision-makers by putting out talk of the F-35. Worse, they alleged, the Fifth Generation tag is a marketing gimmick, because “Lockheed Martin has put out a self-serving definition of what constitutes a Fifth Generation jet,” EADS officials said.

“If you are saying stealth is a defining 5G characteristic, then the greater the capabilities of the electronic scanning (AESA) radar, the other must-have, the more questionable stealth becomes”, the officials said. “Also, designing a fighter for stealth means compromising on agility and lethality. Stealth is a survivability concern. You can sneak in on an enemy, but you will still need to have a good punch to take out the enemy. Also, stealth works so long as you are not detected, but once detected, stealthy aircraft lack agility to escape. Stealth and survivability can be ensured in more than one way. The Eurofighter relies on agility, the F-22 relies on agility [and stealth] to survive. So, is India prepared to sacrifice weapons carriage, supercruise, agility for stealth”.

Lockheed Martin officials, in turn, seemed to be dismissing fellow US giant Boeing's bid to win the contract for its F/A-18 Super Hornet by dangling a 'roadmap of future development' of the aircraft that would give it Fifth Generation characteristics and keep the jet relevant for the next several decades.
[More:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/02/09/352926/aero-india-video-boeing-reveals-advanced-super-hornet-options.html ]
"Fifth Generation capabilities cannot be grafted onto an existing aircraft. They have to be built in from the start", they said...

Mark
Ottawa
 
Indian military getting new weapons for regional force projection:

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/02/south-korea-has-robotic-super-gun-super.html#more

2. Indian Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) chief VK Saraswat said on Friday all sub-systems of the country’s first indigenous subsonic medium-range cruise missile Nirbhay (fearless) were almost in place and it would be ready by early next year.

Speaking at Aero India-2011, he said: “Integration of the engine is under way.”

The missile with a range of 1,000 km can take to the skies from multiple launchers and will arm all the three services. Nirbhay is expected to supplement the 300-km-range supersonic BrahMos.

Saraswat said an advanced version of BrahMos would be ready by 2012. The technology of the hypersonic missile call-ed BrahMos Mark-2 or BrahMos-2 was successfully lab-tested in May 2008 at a speed of 6.5 mach. The hypersonic demonstrator vehicle will attain a level flight for a ground-to-ground test at a height of 30 km before it hits the target with a speed between seven and eight mach.

The mach-8 Brahmos-2, an advanced version of the present air-launched missile, will be the country’s first hypersonic cruise missile. DRDO and Russian NPO-Mash are working on a sustained flight scramjet, which will be the core element of the Mark-2 version.About a ballistic missile defence shield, Saraswat said the next AAD (advanced air defence) test will take place this month.
 
S.M.A. said:
The largest peacetime loss for the Indian Navy:

Being Leander class, this is likely good news long term for their budget, she must have been getting long in the tooth by now.
 
Now to an Indian topic other than defence...development.

Like the unorthodox dual-track policies in China and the Asian Tiger economies when they started growing, I find it interesting that India had growth as well that went contrary to the prescriptions of the neoliberal, free market Washington Consensus that dominated the World Bank and the IMF's aid programs to other developing countries. Many in academia blame the Washington Consensus for the disastrous structural adjustment programs in Sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America. However, India had policies that went contrary to free market ideas, such as a 30% tariff (now still has a 25% tariff) as well as huge fertilizer subsidies, but yet it has had a lot of growth which rivals China.

Sure there is a lot of inequality, but that's just the Kuznets curve at work for developing nations... which sees inequality become more acute at the initial stages of growth...

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India's richest man urges 'equitable growth'
By Punit Paranjpe | AFP News – 17 minutes ago

India's richest man Mukesh Ambani said Tuesday the country needed equitable growth at all levels to include millions of Indians residing in slums and villages in the mainstream of progress.

Ambani, who heads India's largest private company, petrochemical giant Reliance Industries, is India's wealthiest man with an estimated $27 billion fortune. He lives in one of the largest and most expensive homes in the world. Addressing the annual meeting organised by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, a leading industry group in New Delhi, Ambani stressed the urgent need to bridge the gap between rich and poor.


He spoke of the two narratives of India, one that sees the country from the "stratosphere, rhapsodises about its growth and romanticises its democracy."

The other narrative, he said, "imagines the growth engine as a heartless monster that leaves large numbers of Indians behind."

"There will be no peace if a billion plus people are discontented, deprived, unhappy and therefore angry," he said, adding that "India's growth story is unsustainable without including millions in our progress."

He called for industry to work to unite the "two Indias" and create 15 million jobs every year to absorb 200 million youth in the next 10 years.


The magnate, whose business interests run from oil and gas exploration to grocery shops said better healthcare was needed to protect the demographic dividend, the youth who are largely unprotected and uncared for.
 
Paying to play in the big leagues:

India Raises Defense Budget by Nearly 12%
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3ab424b11e-a5bf-41b6-8eec-dc4e86787e61

India has raised its defense budget by nearly 12% for 2011-12, about 1.8% of its GDP. Last year it raised its budget by just 4%. But according to the respected Hindustan Times, defense “spending ought to have been around 3% of the GDP, seen in the backdrop of China's rising military might.”

Strategic affairs expert Air Vice Marshal Kapil Kak (retd) was quoted by the daily as saying “the hike is hardly adequate to meet the military’s rising responsibilities in view of the feverish pace of China’s military modernization. India’s defence modernization gathered steam only during the last three to four years. Much needs to be done to build offensive capabilities in the long term.”

The increase to $36.5 billion for 2011-12, from $32.74 billion this year, includes a 12% boost in spending for weapon systems and platforms. As a comparison China's 2010 defense budget was $78 billion.

Indian Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee told the country's parliament, the Lok Sabha, when he was presenting the budget earlier this week that "more than 40% of the Indian defense budget for 2011 will be spent on capital expenditure [emphasis added], while the rest will go toward maintaining its armed forces.”

Among procurements which could be finalized next year are the $11 billion deal for 126 multi-role combat aircraft as well as 197 light helicopters and 145 ultra-light howitzers for the army. During Aero India last month, the Chief of Air Staff P.V. Naik stated that, barring complications, the combat aircraft contract should be signed by September...

Mark
Ottawa
 
Slowly, slowly:

MMRCA Shortlist To Be Announced Early April
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/asd/2011/03/07/09.xml

NEW DELHI — The shortlist for the six contenders for India’s Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program is to be announced in the first week of April.

Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik had declared at Aero India on Feb. 10 that he was optimistic that price negotiations would start within a few weeks and a deal could be signed by September, “provided dissatisfied vendors do not put a spoke in the wheel and delay proceedings.”

Aviation Week has learned that two or three vendors will be asked to submit their offset proposals within six months. The defense ministry will negotiate offsets with the down-selected companies only. Recently, the ministry asked all MMRCA vendors to hold back on presenting their offset proposals.

According to India’s Defense Procurement Procedures, the offset proposals are not a primary criterion for the source selection, as they are compliant.

The 126-aircraft MMRCA contract is the largest defense procurement program in India and the most-watched fighter competition around the world. In the running are Mikoyan’s MiG-35, the Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, Boeing F/A-18E/F and Lockheed Martin F-16.

Some observers here have been speculating that the Typhoon and Rafale are the leading contenders. It is not clear if a decision has been made on a third down-select vendor; sources in the defense ministry have indicated it could be Boeing.

Mark
Ottawa
 
The other religious-inspired terrorists--important article, I think:

Hindu terrorism charges force India to reflect on prejudices against Muslims
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/12/AR2011031204921.html?referrer=emailarticlepg

IN DEWAS, INDIA When a series of bomb attacks ripped through Muslim neighborhoods, mosques and shrines in India in recent years, suspicion fell firmly on a familiar culprit: Islamist terror. After each incident, scores of Indian Muslims were rounded up, and many were tortured. Confessions were extracted, the names of various militant "masterminds" leaked to the media and links with Pakistan widely alleged.

Never mind that most of the victims were Muslims; it seemed natural to many people, from New Delhi to Washington, to assume the attacks were the work of extremist Pakistani militants and their Indian Muslim sympathizers, intent on fanning religious tensions in India and disrupting the peace process between the nuclear-armed rivals.

But those investigations, and the assumptions behind them, were turned on their head early this year by the confession of a Hindu holy man. Swami Aseemanand told a magistrate that the bomb makers were neither Pakistani nor Muslim but Hindu radicals, bent on revenge for many earlier acts of terrorism across India that had been perpetrated by Muslims.

His statement, subsequently leaked to the media, alleged that a network of radicals stretched right up to senior levels of the country's Hindu nationalist right wing. It also exposed deep-seated prejudices within the police against the country's minority Muslim population.

Ironically, the charges may also have helped India and Pakistan to get back to the negotiating table last month after relations broke down in the wake of the 2008 attacks on Mumbai.

A string of attacks

Like many Indians, Aseemanand was furious with terrorist attacks in the country carried out by Muslims. "We should answer bombs with bombs," he told a small group of Hindu extremists in June 2006, only to discover a plot was already well under way.

In the ensuing 18 months, bombs were placed on bicycles in a Muslim cemetery in the western town of Malegaon, hidden under a granite slab in a mosque in Hyderabad and left in a tiffin lunchbox in an important Sufi shrine in Ajmer, all targets Aseemanand said he suggested.

In another attack, 68 people, most of them Pakistanis, were killed when suitcases packed with explosives were placed next to gasoline bottles on a train headed from western India to Pakistan. Many of the victims were unable to escape the inferno because of bars on the train windows, and their bodies were burned beyond recognition.

Evidence that radical Hindus, including an army colonel who is suspected of supplying the technical expertise and the explosives, were behind several of these bombings began to surface more than two years ago, and several people were arrested, including Aseemanand.

But his statement is the first clear evidence that Indian Hindu terrorists were to blame for the deaths of Pakistani Muslim travelers on the Samjhauta, or Friendship, Express.

Pakistan reacted to the news with ill-disguised glee, arguing that the botched investigations and the subsequent confession confirmed its suspicions that India "lacked the courage" to prosecute radical Hindus.

In India, there was sober reflection in some quarters about prejudices against Muslims. The Hindu right's old adage, that "while not every Muslim is a terrorist, every terrorist is a Muslim," could no longer be trotted out with a straight face.

India had been insisting it would not restart a formal peace process with Pakistan until that country properly investigated and prosecuted state-sponsored militants blamed for the attacks on Mumbai, which left 166 people dead.

Pakistan responded in kind, demanding a fuller and faster investigation into the train attack. India put on a brave face, but the revelations were an embarrassment, one official privately admitted, as Indian media judged that their government had lost some of the moral high ground...

Meanwhile, nine Muslims have languished in jail for more than four years, accused of carrying out the Malegaon bombings, in which 37 people were killed. They have been subjected, their attorney says, to horrific torture [emphasis added], their families reduced to poverty. But they hope Aseemanand's confession will soon persuade a judge to release them on bail...

As for torture, see this at the CDFAI's 3Ds Blog:

Corruption? What stinking corruption? And what stinking torture?
http://www.cdfai.org/the3dsblog/?p=44

Mark
Ottawa
 
Very indicative:

Ambitious India now world's largest arms importer (usual copyright disclaimer)
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_INDIA_ARMS_IMPORTS?SITE=TXNEW

NEW DELHI (AP) -- In its race to join the club of international powers, India has reached another milestone - it's now the world's largest weapons importer.

A Swedish think tank that monitors global arms sales said Monday that India's weapons imports had overtaken China's, as the South Asian nation pushes ahead with plans to modernize its military, counter Beijing's influence and gain international clout.

"India has ambitions to become first a continental and (then) a regional power," said Rahul Bedi, a South Asia analyst with London-based Jane's Defense Weekly. "To become a big boy, you need to project your power."

According to the report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, India accounted for 9 percent of all international arms imports in the period from 2006 to 2010, and it is expected to keep the top spot for the foreseeable future...

China dropped to second place, with 6 percent of global imports, as it continued to build up its domestic arms industry, something India has so far failed to do, Wezeman said.

The United States was the largest arms exporter, followed by Russia and Germany, according to the report...

India's investment comes amid its rising concerns about China's regional power and its designs over vital Indian Ocean shipping lanes, which New Delhi sees as part of its sphere of influence.

It is spending billions of dollars on fighter jets and aircraft carriers to modernize its air force and navy. Tensions also linger over unresolved border issues with China which led to war in 1962.

India also remains in its traditional faceoff with neighboring Pakistan, with which it has fought three wars...

India's defense budget for the coming year is 1.5 trillion rupees ($32.5 billion), a 40 percent increase from two years before. It imports more than 70 percent of its arms.

The vast majority of those imports, 82 percent, come from Russia, which has long been India's supplier of choice, the report said. But other countries have been pushing for a chunk of the lucrative market, with world leaders streaming here in recent months, in part to push defense deals.

During British Prime Minister David Cameron's July visit, the two countries announced a nearly $1.1 billion deal for India to buy 57 Hawk advanced trainer jets. During President Barack Obama's November visit, a $4.1 billion sale of 10 C-17 transport aircraft was announced.

France and India moved closer to finalizing a $2.1 billion Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft upgrade deal during President Nicolas Sarkozy's December visit, and a few weeks later India and Russia agreed to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft during President Dmitry Medvedev's visit.

India is awaiting delivery of a $2.3 billion rebuilt aircraft carrier from Russia - as it builds another carrier itself - and has ordered six submarines worth $4.5 billion from France.

With India expected to spend $80 billion over the next decade to upgrade its military, more plums await.

India is in the market to buy 126 fighter jets, a deal worth $11 billion, and about 200 helicopters worth another $4 billion. It also has plans to buy large amphibious landing ships at $300 million to $500 million each [emphasis added, Mistrals?
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/threads/88747/post-870091.html#msg870091 ]
and is discussing another $10 billion submarine order, Wezeman said...

At least CIDA no longer has a bilateral aid program,
http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/india
though we do for some reason maintain one in China:
http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/china

Mark
Ottawa
 
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