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Hamas invaded Israel 2023

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KevinB said:
He definitely doesn't have dementia. I may not agree with him on a lot, but don't mistake being older and occasionally stumbling, for not having his facilities.

As I understand it, the decision was made in Isreal to not release the pictures to outside of government to spare the parents, families and generally the world. While knowing that babies were beheaded is disturbing, is a lot different in seeing it, as well there were many other indignities done to the bodies beyond that.
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Normally I would fully agree with that decision. but sadly the world needs to see exactly what they are supporting when they say stuff. As for Biden, he is reminding me very much of my father who had early stage dementia.
 
CBH99 said:
Well if the government is willing to freeze the bank accounts of anybody who donated a few bucks to our own truckers who they conveniently labelled as terrorists, they sure as f*k better freeze the bank accounts of people actually financing actual terrorism ... For starters
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Terrorism financing is actively investigated by the RCMP, and indicators of it are sought and reported on by FINTRAC. Basically the entire financial services industry is mandated by the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act to watch for and to report to FINTRAC suspicious transactions that may fit terrorist financing indicators. There are a combination of regulatory (PCMLTFA) and criminal offences that can be in play.

Note that freezing bank accounts may not always happen immediately. As soon as you freeze an account, you’re tipping your hand that you’re aware of there being sufficient grounds to do so. I.e., you may burn an investigation. Identifying bank accounts and following money flows is often an intermediate step in a criminal investigation. Action to block money flow (freezing accounts, seeking forfeiture etc) may not take place until an investigation is ready to hit its conclusion phase- overt search warrants, takedowns etc.

Simply freezing bank accounts as a standalone and premature act may hinder larger and more meaningful investigative processes.

All that to say: an absence of visible enforcement measures as a point in time does not mean active investigation is not taking place.
 
If you want to watch someone's head explode with cognitive dissonance, have the following ready:

If Judaism pre-dates Christianity, and Christianity pre-dates Islam, then we have to accept that Judaism pre-dates Isalm.
If Judaism pre-dates Islam, are the Jews not just the original inhabitants trying to regain their ancestral lands?
 
A few tidbits moving forward ...
www.france24.com

Gaza braces for ground offensive, but can Israel achieve its objectives?

Nearly a week after Hamas launched a shock attack on Israel, Gaza residents are braced for a ground offensive with Israel mobilising reservists and moving military equipment to the border with Gaza.…
www.france24.com www.france24.com
www.reuters.com

Israeli army to confront resilient foe in anticipated Gaza invasion

An Israeli invasion of Gaza will face an enemy that has built a formidable armoury with Iran's help, dug a vast tunnel network to evade attackers and has shown in past ground wars it can exact a heavier toll on Israeli troops each time.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
www.ynetnews.com

Halevi: IDF's mission is eliminating Hamas leadership

Army chief acknowledges the IDF fell short in its responsibility for Israel's security but affirms that forces are now prepared for battle and fully comprehend the gravity of the current moment
www.ynetnews.com www.ynetnews.com
 
ModlrMike said:
If you want to watch someone's head explode with cognitive dissonance, have the following ready:

If Judaism pre-dates Christianity, and Christianity pre-dates Islam, then we have to accept that Judaism pre-dates Isalm.
If Judaism pre-dates Islam, are the Jews not just the original inhabitants trying to regain their ancestral lands?
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Now, who pre-dates Judaism? And when did they move into the area? If Charlton Heston Moses led them out of Egypt, where and when did they come from?

www.haaretz.com

Blood brothers: Palestinians and Jews share genetic roots

Jews break down into three genetic groups, all of which have Middle Eastern origins – which are shared with the Palestinians and Druze.
www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
Confronted by the violence sweeping over Israel, it can be easy to overlook the things that Jews and Palestinians share: a deep attachment to the same sliver of contested land, a shared appetite for hummus, a common tradition of descent from the patriarch Abraham, and, as scientific research shows - a common genetic ancestry, as well.

. . . The closest genetic relatives of the Middle Eastern Jews are Druze, Bedouin and Palestinians . . .
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ModlrMike said:
If you want to watch someone's head explode with cognitive dissonance, have the following ready:

If Judaism pre-dates Christianity, and Christianity pre-dates Islam, then we have to accept that Judaism pre-dates Isalm.
If Judaism pre-dates Islam, are the Jews not just the original inhabitants trying to regain their ancestral lands?
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Ok lets play that game.

Who is to say the any of the Jews currently in Israel were ever there originally? Its a religion not a ethnicity. Someones family could have converted in 1700 and still be Jewish.

If Islam came later but it was Jews who converted to Islam that now are in the region is it not still their lands (or ancestral lands?).

Your also assuming that all the people around Israel/Palestine were Jewish originally, which they were not. Zoroastrianism etc. was big in that region. Should the land not go back to the Greeks or Persians?

Your arguments are fairly flawed. At the end of the day we moved a large group of people into the area in the late 40s who proceeded to evict the people actually living in the area based off some questionable land claim from 2000 years ago. Sounds pretty stupid when it gets phrased like that.

Should you be evicted from your home because someone who claims to be part of the tribe that once owned that part of Canada demands it?
 
daftandbarmy said:
Now we're talking... let's see how long Iran, and the other 'Axis of Evil' members, will last if it steps into the ring ;)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712581111040115094
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Well they already recalled their state A340 after an aborted landing attempt in Damascus to drop rockets off to Hezbollah. It’s like they’re inviting OP FAFO into their own back yard…which the IDF may actually oblige them…
 
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