• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Hamas invaded Israel 2023

  • Thread starter Thread starter McG
  • Start date Start date
brihard said:
Basing that on what? In Dresden, for instance, about 25k of the half million residents were killed. In Tokyo, about 100k of several million residents were killed.

The physical destruction in Gaza has certain been VERY widespread, and in some areas comprehensive. The death toll is much lower than the WW2 firebombings, but those were mass raids explicitly designed to cause firestorms.

Your claim that Gaza and its population would have been ‘destroyed by now’ in WW2 isn’t supported by the casualty data for that timeframe, nor the realistic effects of weapons in a built up area that’s largely concrete and stone.
Click to expand...

In WW2 the Germans, Brits and Russians put the civilians below ground. Apparently HAMAS puts its fighters below ground.
 
brihard said:
Basing that on what? In Dresden, for instance, about 25k of the half million residents were killed. In Tokyo, about 100k of several million residents were killed.

The physical destruction in Gaza has certain been VERY widespread, and in some areas comprehensive. The death toll is much lower than the WW2 firebombings, but those were mass raids explicitly designed to cause firestorms.

Your claim that Gaza and its population would have been ‘destroyed by now’ in WW2 isn’t supported by the casualty data for that timeframe, nor the realistic effects of weapons in a built up area that’s largely concrete and stone.
Click to expand...
The firestorm idea was meant to kill and drive away the workforce and sap the morale of the public. The proponents of strategic bombing were not really deterred by the estimated civilian causalities in either Germany or Japan.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.
Click to expand...
Hamas fighters are hiding behind civilians, civilians are told "you die for the cause and we will put your dead bodies on internet to shame Israel. If you leave we will shoot you." IDF announces its raids and tell everyone to get out but Hamas wont let them leave.

The bombing of Berlin and other bombing raids were not done on week one of WW2 but in 1945 near the end of the war. Fighting was mainly army against army for much of the war. At some point it was determined to attempt to break the German spirit in hopes to end the war sooner. Bombing campaigns like these are often thought to have created fewer causalities then letting the war drag on years longer. Its horrible that many people died and I don't ever want anyone to die. Sometimes people need to do horrible things in the name of the greater good.
Eaglelord17 said:
Killing terrorists doesn’t mean you get to kill everyone else in the way.
Click to expand...
Eaglelord17 said:
I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
Click to expand...
The population is indoctrinated to hate Israelis by Hamas' absentee leaders. The majority of the population would love nothing more than to have an Israeli kill to their name. How do you spare the peaceful civilians when Hamas has already killed all of them for not supporting their cause?
Eaglelord17 said:
There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
Click to expand...
Most of the ceasefire talk is coming out of the universities where Marxist professors have convinced woke students that violence is ok if its against a group that is seen to be oppressive. Current GOC supports a ceasefire because most are these same Marxist woke students that didn't have skills to get good jobs so they went into politics. And because they are afraid of violence erupting if they appear to support Israel.
As for Israel oppressing Palestine, without Israel Palestine would not have water or electricity, Many Palestinians travelled into Israel to work and repaid that kindness by providing intel to Hamas about where/when to attack.

Ask yourself if these Palestinians were really "Uninvolved Civilians" than why would Jordan and Egypt not take them in? Or any other Muslim nation for that matter.

Israel had many, many, ceasefires. After every rocket attack they retaliated then ceased fire until the next attack. Take a look at this list and ask yourself If someone attacked your city that many times how would you respond?
en.wikipedia.org

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Then those same people crashed you daughters wedding, murdered the men and raped then murdered all the women.
 
I am going to quote a terrorist who was asked why they were killing innocent people. His answer was along the lines "there are no innocents in the Great Satan" or words to that effect.

Its been stated that a good many Palestinians and others support Hamas. And a favorite ploy of the terrorists is to hide in hospitals and have children as shields and if the children get killed....you know the field day the media has with this.
 
OldSolduer said:
I am going to quote a terrorist who was asked why they were killing innocent people. His answer was along the lines "there are no innocents in the Great Satan" or words to that effect.

Its been stated that a good many Palestinians and others support Hamas. And a favorite ploy of the terrorists is to hide in hospitals and have children as shields and if the children get killed....you know the field day the media has with this.
Click to expand...
Just ask Robert Fowler about that. One of his captors was almost physically sick just by being in the presence of an Infidel.
And his experience was not the only one it's something a lot of that those who've had to deal with radical Islamists mention.
Simply put they didn't qualify as human in the eyes of those terrorists they encountered.
 
GK .Dundas said:
Just ask Robert Fowler about that. One of his captors was almost physically sick just by being in the presence of an Infidel.
And his experience was not the only one it's something a lot of that those who've had to deal with radical Islamists mention.
Simply put they didn't qualify as human in the eyes of those terrorists they encountered.
Click to expand...

The moderate Muslim world struggles with radical Islam too, and has done for centuries, which is an interesting study in itself, viz:


Moderate and Radical Islam

 
Dana381 said:
Israel had many, many, ceasefires. After every rocket attack they retaliated then ceased fire until the next attack. Take a look at this list and ask yourself If someone attacked your city that many times how would you respond?
en.wikipedia.org

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Then those same people crashed you daughters wedding, murdered the men and raped then murdered all the women.
Click to expand...
Well written, deserves more than an emoj
 
OldSolduer said:
Oh really? Who started this? Who raped, kidnapped and murdered civilians on October 7th?

Hamas needs to be eradicated.
Click to expand...
Who was still killing and driving people from their homes before Oct 7th? The Palestinians death rate for the last decade speaks for itself.

Pretending Israel was being 100% peaceful and not doing anything wrong before that attack is willful blindness. This didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Most nations would have considered what Israel was doing before hand (and continues to do) a act of war.
 
Me right now:


Anticipation Popcorn GIF
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Who was still killing and driving people from their homes before Oct 7th? The Palestinians death rate for the last decade speaks for itself.

Pretending Israel was being 100% peaceful and not doing anything wrong before that attack is willful blindness. This didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Most nations would have considered what Israel was doing before hand (and continues to do) a act of war.
Click to expand...
And in 1948 when the state of Israel was created by the UN who attacked Israel, vowing to wipe it off the face of the earth?

You have your opinion, I have mine.

Good day to you.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Who was still killing and driving people from their homes before Oct 7th? The Palestinians death rate for the last decade speaks for itself.

Pretending Israel was being 100% peaceful and not doing anything wrong before that attack is willful blindness. This didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Most nations would have considered what Israel was doing before hand (and continues to do) a act of war.
Click to expand...
Who gave up valuable land in 2005, evicted their own people and handed over working infrastructure? Who supplied the people who were trying to kill them with electricity, water and jobs? Remind me again how many countries in the world would tolerate 15,000 rockets fired at them? Had they done that to South Africa, I suspect all the leaders of Hamas would have been necklaced by now.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Most nations would have considered what Israel was doing before hand (and continues to do) a act of war.
Click to expand...

They should do something about it, instead of crying at the UN.

Israel is showing massive restraint on all sides of the their border, especially to the north. I suspect pushing Hezbollah back in southern lebanon will be the next task.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Jarnhamar
    • Wow
    • Like
    • Sad
Government now says new human rights chief did disclose key information about controversial social media posts
2
Replies
31
Views
3K
SeaKingTacco
SeaKingTacco
Edward Campbell
    • Wow
    • Like
    • Sad
PAK National Arrested in QC Plotting Attack in NYC
2
Replies
22
Views
2K
Haggis
Haggis
The Bread Guy
    • Like
Survey: "Two-thirds say inconsistent treatment from authorities favours some groups over others"
Replies
0
Views
2K
The Bread Guy
The Bread Guy
J
    • Like
Should Canada Stay in the U.N.? (split fm Hamas invaded Israel 2023)
2
Replies
28
Views
13K
Good2Golf
Good2Golf
Kirkhill
Active Protection Systems
Replies
6
Views
6K
Kirkhill
Kirkhill
Back
Top