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It's a good thing you're out, what you said goes against everything DND stands for.Agreed but with it already being bad enough, we shouldn't try and actually make it worse
Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]
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Ottawa police officer accused of donating to 'Freedom Convoy' faces misconduct charge
An Ottawa police officer is facing a misconduct under the Police Services Act for allegedly donating money to the 'Freedom Convoy' during the protest in downtown Ottawa.
I think this is the only one so far with OPS.
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I don’t know the answer, but that might be best judged after the next federal election.
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Because he handily won CPC leadership? I'd say that's more a signal that CPC (or its card-carrying members) are shifting farther right as a party.
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Maybe. Or he's just more likeable and relatable. I think gay immigrants should be able to get married, have abortions, and pray to Chuchulu. I don't consider myself far right and I would have voted for him.
I'm not exactly politically savvy but it almost seems like Pierre=farther right is one of those scare tactics.
How Pierre Poilievre is winning new support among young, diverse voters
It reminds me of how all the convoy supporters were just white males.
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Is it though?
If he publicly supported them before the convoy published their "manifesto" then maybe he could have spun it as "I had no idea these folks would go this way". But, he didn't.
That, to me, and especially that he hasn't come out and said anything to try and temper the outrage, is pretty telling.
I live within a short walk of the convoy area back in Jan/Feb. I worked from home and out of necessity (small space) I saw the folks roaming around from my "office". You're right that it wasn't just white males, but I distinctly noticed a lack of people of colour in the 3 weeks that they were there.
My friends, living in other parts of downtown Ottawa, said the same.
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I believe you.
It's possible people of colour weren't supportive of it in general.
Possible it was intimidating for people of colour to join because of comments or behavior from those racist and bigot types, many who identify as right-wing.
It's also possible people of colour were afraid of being targeted and harassed by other left-learning people of colour who think POCs should be LPC/NDP and those who aren't are traitors. There were a number of stories from down south of republican POCs being harassed and targeted by their own people. I don't suspect we're impervious to that behavior up here.
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Yup.
CBC Frontburner had an episode where they interviewed CPC members at the recent leadership convention. More than one said words to the effect that they hope his messaging doesn't change when he forms govt.
How the hell are you going to do that when you're the PM? A big part of his messaging is that he's angry, like the rest of the country, at the govt. What happens when he becomes the govt? People are going to still be angry, but at him.
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I doubt conservatives or the CPC are moving right, certainly not by much. On just two hot-button issues - SSM and abortion - I suppose there are more conservatives/CPC no longer opposed than there were 5, 10, or 20 years ago. People who think one frame is moving right ought examine their own sociopolitical evolution over the past 5, 10, or 20 years to make an honest assessment of whether they are in a frame moving left.
Can confirm. The convoy protests was super white. Not exclusively, but overwhelmingly. I thought I’d somehow stumbled into a fight at the Kingston yacht club.
Definitely not just male. Majority male, but plenty of women too. Purely from eyeballing it I’d say proportionately more men than women were arrested, but I’d also say that men were disproportionately the ones acting sufficiently aggressively as to stand out from the people around them and get arrested. But that’s also totally normal for pretty much any ‘big angry crowd’ protest with significant arrests.
A protest with active police action is an environment ripe for testosterone poisoning.
Pat King is in court today, there’s the eviction hearing for the convoy affiliated TUPOC group is going on right now, and also I think yes the guy who wants to charge Trudeau for treason is there. So a pretty dumb day at Ottawa courthouse.
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Listening to Pat King defending his actions while undoubtedly entertaining. One run's the risk of having ones IQ permanently lowered.
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So, the truckers were right?
The only reason this is even happening is because PP.
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