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Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

Remius said:
Stop the whataboutism. If antifa was doing that crap we’d be all over it too. None of those groups are there right now dancing on the tomb , carrying confederate flags or Nazi flags etc êtes.

I have to ask why you are ok with this stuff?
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This entire thread is whataboutism. COVID vs flu, covid vs polio vax, masking vs seat belts. Sorry you're just waking up to that, but if you can't see the double standard then you're not paying attention.

This also isn't a Maoist struggle session where I have to outline all the things I dislike to prove my loyalty. In fact I think its appalling that people are assuming in others that their default position isn't "using Nazi symbology is wrong". This isn't new though, when we have the leader of a G7 nation calling people who disagree with him racists on a regular basis and local journalists have been calling right of center folks Nazis for years https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...s-apology-for-nazi-swastika-cartoon-1.2563156

I'd even argue that only one person between Trudeau and the moron with a Nazi/Confederate flag has worn blackface before in a manner to mock another race.
 
Kilted said:
Probably don't have enough to keep up to that ratio. I can speak from experience, 1 x Rifle Company will fill 1 x porta potty to the point that it cannot be used anymore in approximately 3 or 4 days.
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Someone in your ops shop isn't doing their job my friend.
 
Hmm. I guess there are still some that refuse to separate bad actors from the legitimate protest. Like to lump them all together and then use their big brush to paint the whole thing as a far right bunch of rednecks to try delegitimize the whole thing.

I don't like those fringe groups being there. I don't like what they stand for.
BUT
If they are breaking no laws and are exercising their rights of free assembly and the right to free expression, on public property, who am I or anyone else to tell them they can't be there? After all, our rights and freedoms are the underpinning of the protest. If you have a hard on for the stars & bars, petition your liberal government to outlaw it. The nazi flag? Outlaw it like Germany. I'm sure trudeau would love to help you with that.
 
PuckChaser said:
This entire thread is whataboutism. COVID vs flu, covid vs polio vax, masking vs seat belts. Sorry you're just waking up to that, but if you can't see the double standard then you're not paying attention.

This also isn't a Maoist struggle session where I have to outline all the things I dislike to prove my loyalty. In fact I think its appalling that people are assuming in others that their default position isn't "using Nazi symbology is wrong". This isn't new though, when we have the leader of a G7 nation calling people who disagree with him racists on a regular basis and local journalists have been calling right of center folks Nazis for years https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...s-apology-for-nazi-swastika-cartoon-1.2563156

I'd even argue that only one person between Trudeau and the moron with a Nazi/Confederate flag has worn blackface before in a manner to mock another race.
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I just find it odd that anyone here deflects things like nazi flags and dancing on the tomb of the unknown soldier. But if some are ok with it we’ll have to agree to disagree. I mean, the first reaction to the tomb dancing, terry fox thing and nazi flags is to point to BLM, Antifa and essentially “so what”. Yeah ok…

As I said it’s the crazies. But some seem fine with it.

But as others have mentioned this protest has now taken on a whole other identity because of these clowns.

The message is lost and it’s now about them.
 
Fishbone Jones said:
Hmm. I guess there are still some that refuse to separate bad actors from the legitimate protest. Like to lump them all together and then use their big brush to paint the whole thing as a far right bunch of rednecks to try delegitimize the whole thing.

I don't like those fringe groups being there. I don't like what they stand for.
BUT
If they are breaking no laws and are exercising their rights of free assembly and the right to free expression, on public property, who am I or anyone else to tell them they can't be there? After all, our rights and freedoms are the underpinning of the protest. If you have a hard on for the stars & bars, petition your liberal government to outlaw it. The nazi flag? Outlaw it like Germany. I'm sure trudeau would love to help you with that.
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No one has said they don’t have a right to protest. And I have literally pointed out the bad actors.

I don’t like either flag. I don’t like dancing on the tomb. If you do or find that ok then you do you. But I’m not shocked by your position. We’ll have to disagree. I have no issues calling it out or mocking it.
 
mariomike said:
Been a couple of elections since then.

nationalpost.com

How did Canadians react to Trudeau's blackface photos? With a big meh, polls find

Forty-two per cent of those polled by Abacus Data said they weren’t really bothered by seeing the prime minister in brownface and blackface
nationalpost.com nationalpost.com
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When did we get a statute of limitation on blatant racism? Just because everyone knows his excuses and apologies were nothing more than a bad actor's attempt to placate his supporters, doesn't mean it should be forgiven and forgotten. He is a racist and hasn't learned anything from those episodes. Except to make sure everyone's camera phone goes in a bag before the party starts.
 
dapaterson said:
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Remius said:
I just find it odd that anyone here deflects things like nazi flags and dancing on the tomb of the unknown soldier. But if some are ok with it we’ll have to agree to disagree. I mean, the first reaction to the tomb dancing, terry fox thing and nazi flags is to point to BLM, Antifa and essentially “so what”. Yeah ok…
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No, my first reaction was "those guys are f@#$ing idiots" and "this is why we need a 24/7/365 guard". But you don't get to read my mind and I'm not going to post all my personal thoughts here. I haven't seen anyone here trying to justify what those folks did, but you're completely incapable of seeing the double standard being applied to the bad actors receiving the focus of a "right wing" protest, but the same heat and light doesn't show up for a left wing protest. You're spinning what people are saying to meet the bias you want to see.

Edit: Added 24/7/365 guard because otherwise it doesn't make any sense.
 
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PuckChaser said:
No, my first reaction was "those guys are f@#$ing idiots" and "this is why we need a 24/7/365". But you don't get to read my mind and I'm not going to post all my personal thoughts here. I haven't seen anyone here trying to justify what those folks did, but you're completely incapable of seeing the double standard being applied to the bad actors receiving the focus of a "right wing" protest, but the same heat and light doesn't show up for a left wing protest. You're spinning what people are saying to meet the bias you want to see.
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I can’t read your mind correct but can read what you post. You provided whataboutism. Simple.

Someone posts a Nazi flag. Someone says that’s awful and that turns into a diatribe on the left and Trudeau. Lol.

I’ve been watching this thing all day. And I get some people don’t follow the MSM but the whole narrative today is that the protest is peaceful with a few bad actors. Literally the same stuff posted here.

The CDS, MND, even O’toole have all tested and made statements about these bad actors. They are calling them out.

I see no issue with this.

So I don’t know where you assume I have some bias that I can’t see what everyone else is seeing.
 
PuckChaser said:
No, my first reaction was "those guys are f@#$ing idiots" and "this is why we need a 24/7/365". But you don't get to read my mind and I'm not going to post all my personal thoughts here. I haven't seen anyone here trying to justify what those folks did, but you're completely incapable of seeing the double standard being applied to the bad actors receiving the focus of a "right wing" protest, but the same heat and light doesn't show up for a left wing protest. You're spinning what people are saying to meet the bias you want to see.
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What really confounds me is that protests centered around individual rights and civil liberties have become hallmarks or "right wing" protests. By definition, the political stance they are making is one for liberalism. The same liberal values that the LPC was founded upon. Apparently the only Canadian political parties advocating for liberal values these days are the CPC and PPC. Trudeau, despite his flaws, at least used to be something of a champion for human rights... used to. It is a rather sad state of affairs.
 
Fishbone Jones said:
Their goal is to end the mandates. Everything has morphed since they planned this, including that MOU. You appear to be the only one here that has problems believing its not a sticky point. They really got no support for it. I've been on a lot of sites and nobody even mentions it. It's hyperbolic and ridiculous. Everyone knows it. But go ahead and keep painting everyone participating as morons because you're fixated on that statement which no longer applies. It's like condemning everyone because some guy has a nazi flag. Or complaining because some guy named Pat does things you don't like. Mind there's a shitload of pissants I like to see resign and maybe it is time to move away from our present system and monarchy. Perhaps it's time to become a republic in our own right.
As far as your picture, why should anyone believe the message from government sources? I saw on the news right now trudeau and his family have been moved to a secret location for safety. 🤣 Safety from what? So much for isolating in his cottage. Didn't take long for that excuse to fizzle. Our leader has shown himself for what he is. Canada has seen, the Emporer has no clothes and a serious lack of intestinal fortitude

I find it telling that some of those that are the most vocal against Canadians exercising their Rights and Freedoms need to go down into the weeds and find the tiniest, mostly unrelated items to whine about. Things that really have no bearing on the majority of the thousands of people that support this initiative. Anything to poke it in the eye and try to spin havoc and hate. Of course, like the boy that cried wolf, they are becoming irrelevant as people tire of their strawmen and mountains out of molehill concerns. MOO.
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Yes. That will make it a-l-l-l better.
 
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