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I have the same sentiment (and share Technoviking's).
I'm actually eavesdropping on a coversation right now between an Egyptian expat and a colleague, very interesting. He sounds concerned about what the implications of removing Mubarak, and what could happen. He just said, "Obama is being stupid" siding with the protestors. However, he then went on to suggest that it's his public moves that are stupid, but that he's not a stupid man and is likely working behind the scenes to try to stabilize things.
The problem as I see it - and as this gentleman (who, it turns out, is here on vacation and now looking to apply to immigrate - is that democracy as we know it is a foreign concept to most of the world, and isn't something that can be exported. You can't just expect it to spontaneously appear somewhere it hasn't evovled over the years. While Mubarak may be a corrupt autocrat, he's provided a measure of stability and constancy, and kept the influence of Islamists at bay. That said, the Muslim Brotherhood are not fundamentalists in the Al Qaeda or Iranian-style theocracy sense of the term, they're much more moderate, but still, the potential for them being the strong ones emerging from the crisis is there, it's real, and it's not really in anyone's interest.
What the gentleman really stressed was that Egypt's problems are rooted mainly in economics, and a young, often well educated population that hasn't got jobs or good future prospects. If some way, he suggested, could be worked out for Mubarak to stay (or at least a new leader to emerge that's reasonably similar, with some decent reforms), then the focus must be on the economy and that might turn things around. It sounds like quite a challenge. I hope that Western leaders are quietly working at this. I understand why they would want to appear low-key though, for fear of a situation like the hatred of the Western-installed Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran.
It's going to be an interesting situation to watch unfold.
I'm actually eavesdropping on a coversation right now between an Egyptian expat and a colleague, very interesting. He sounds concerned about what the implications of removing Mubarak, and what could happen. He just said, "Obama is being stupid" siding with the protestors. However, he then went on to suggest that it's his public moves that are stupid, but that he's not a stupid man and is likely working behind the scenes to try to stabilize things.
The problem as I see it - and as this gentleman (who, it turns out, is here on vacation and now looking to apply to immigrate - is that democracy as we know it is a foreign concept to most of the world, and isn't something that can be exported. You can't just expect it to spontaneously appear somewhere it hasn't evovled over the years. While Mubarak may be a corrupt autocrat, he's provided a measure of stability and constancy, and kept the influence of Islamists at bay. That said, the Muslim Brotherhood are not fundamentalists in the Al Qaeda or Iranian-style theocracy sense of the term, they're much more moderate, but still, the potential for them being the strong ones emerging from the crisis is there, it's real, and it's not really in anyone's interest.
What the gentleman really stressed was that Egypt's problems are rooted mainly in economics, and a young, often well educated population that hasn't got jobs or good future prospects. If some way, he suggested, could be worked out for Mubarak to stay (or at least a new leader to emerge that's reasonably similar, with some decent reforms), then the focus must be on the economy and that might turn things around. It sounds like quite a challenge. I hope that Western leaders are quietly working at this. I understand why they would want to appear low-key though, for fear of a situation like the hatred of the Western-installed Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran.
It's going to be an interesting situation to watch unfold.
Jim Seggie said:In my limited experience WRT international affairs, I do not think the state of Egypt will be anymore demcratic than that of North Korea once the current government is ousted.
Nature abhors a vacuum, and I'd be dollars to donuts that the next government will be far more restrictive that the government of Mubarak. Or am I right out to lunch?