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Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

That China spies on other countries and steals technology is undeniable and, at least in my opinion, unremarkable because America, Britain, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Honduras and India and so on down to Zimbabwe do it too.

The Chinese are, perhaps, a bit more brazen.
 
GR66 said:
And unfortunately it seems a bit more effective.


That's debatable, I think. I suspect others are also very effective but are reluctant to publicly exploit their successes.

But the Chinese seem to not think that espionage is a "bad" thing; their approach seems, to me, to be that espionage is just part of the day-to-day intercourse between nations - friends, competitors and enemies alike. Thus fielding an airplane that looks suspiciously like the F-35 is not a problem for them: we assume they stole the technology; they do not comment.
 
China and the middle-income trap:

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Why China wants to be more like America
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China’s Communist leaders like to point out that American-style democracy is chaotic, and that western capitalism causes manic booms and busts. Yet they’re borrowing heavily from the American playbook as they remake China’s huge, state-dominated economy.
China recently announced a series of reforms meant to speed the transition from a fast-growing yet still-spottily developing nation to a wealthier and more mature economic powerhouse. Among other things, new policies are meant to scale back Beijing’s role in the economy, open state-run industries such as finance and energy to more private businesses, and provide more ways for foreign investors to participate in the Chinese economy. Eventually, market forces would set interest and exchange rates, which are now controlled by the government.

Chinese companies--often owned or partially controlled by the government--have also been splurging on western firms lately. Chinese meat processor Shuanghui International Holdings announced it is buying Smithfield (SFD), the big U.S. pork producer, for $4.7 billion. And the Chinese investment firm Fosun International is part of a group buying the French resort company Club Mediterranee (CU.PA), allowing the troubled travel firm to focus more on upbeat Asian travelers rather than Europeans besieged by recession.

China has tried before to liberalize its economy, with varying degrees of success. It has clearly become integral to the global supply chain, making it the world’s leading producer of many goods. Virtually every big multinational company has operations in China, with some of them earning impressive profits there.

But China still remains handicapped by shortcomings more typical of a banana republic.
“There’s no guarantee China is truly going to become a developed economy along the lines of South Korea or Japan,” says Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at forecasting firm IHS Global Insight. “For China to continue to evolve, they’ve got to make some major changes and become a freer, more market-based economy.”

The government's role

The Chinese government’s role in the economy makes Washington look like a laissez-faire paradise. It controls banks, railroads, oil companies and many other conglomerates, using those companies to advance what it feels are national priorities. By managing a quasi-capitalist economy more closely than other governments, Communist party leaders are able to harness wealth creation for political purposes.

But state-run capitalism can also cause major disconnects between supply and demand, along with other distortions that undermine the whole economy. China, for instance, lacks many of the legal protections consumers and businesses have long demanded in the West. Theft of intellectual property is rampant, which makes many western companies reluctant to develop new technology or do proprietary research in China. That’s why the nation is considered far better at stealing other people’s ideas than generating its own.


Corruption within the ruling Communist party is widespread, leading to deep distrust of the government. Choking industrial pollution is the dirty little secret of a muscular manufacturing sector. Wrenching poverty is common in the countryside, where pre-industrial subsistence farming still sustains millions.

An exaggerated 'might'

Few outsiders see those problems, however, which might explain why Americans have an exaggerated sense of China’s economic might. In polling by Pew Research, 42 percent of Americans said China is the world’s leading economic power, compared with only 36 percent who said the United States is. Yet China’s GDP per capita is just $9,100, which ranks 122d in the world. U.S. GDP per capita is $49,800, tops among large countries (unless you include Norway and Switzerland). The size of China’s economy could eclipse that of the United States in a few years, yet even then China would be nowhere near as rich as America.

China’s leaders realize that, which is why there’s an aggressive new push to embrace reforms Western experts have been advocating for years. Some economists argue that China is heading for an economic phenomenon called the “middle-income trap,” in which fast-growing economies suddenly stagnate, unable to evolve beyond a seemingly fixed level of prosperity. China may be encountering that now. After several overheated years when China’s GDP grew by more than 10 percent per year, growth has fallen back to less than 8 percent. Some economists think it will fall further as efforts that worked economic miracles before – such as massive government-financed infrastructure projects — enter a phase of diminishing returns.

Annual income growth, meanwhile, peaked at nearly 23 percent in 2008 but has since drifted down to about 17 percent, according to World Bank data. Even with several years of fast-rising incomes in China, American workers remain far better off. Income per capita is nearly $49,000 in the United States, compared with about $5,000 in China.

It’s well understood that to become more prosperous and evade the middle-income trap, China has to rely less on exports — consumption by other countries — and more on consumption by its own middle class. It must also unleash more entrepreneurs driven by the profit motive, while cracking down on cronyism and bureaucratic corruption. Yet a vast network of party mandarins will no doubt try to undercut reforms, since they profit handsomely from the status quo. In that regard, China already resembles America, where politicians often stand in the way of what’s best for the country.
 
Canada's Defence Minister chats up his Chinese counterpart - here's the joint statement....
At the invitation of General Chang Wanquan, State Councillor and Minister of Defense of the People’s Republic of China, the Minister of National Defence of Canada, the Honourable Peter MacKay, visited China on June 3, 2013.

The two Ministers held frank and in-depth discussions on Canada-China military-to-military relations, the international and regional security situation, and other issues of mutual interest.  Both Ministers agreed that, as major countries in the Asia-Pacific region, China and Canada have a shared responsibility to ensure a peaceful, stable and prosperous Asia-Pacific.

Both ministers agreed that defence relations constitute an important component of the comprehensive bilateral relationship, which includes engagement on economic and political issues, and strong people-to-people ties.  They affirmed their commitment to promoting the further development of defence relations and agreed to maintain high-level contact. Accordingly, Minister MacKay invited the Minister of National Defense of China to visit Canada in 2013.

In order to strengthen defence and military cooperation, both Ministers agreed to establish a Defence Coordination Dialogue to exchange views on issues of common interest and discuss defence engagement plans.

Both Ministers also affirmed the intent to establish a Cooperation Plan Initiative between the Chinese People’s Liberation Army and the Canadian Armed Forces which would guide joint activities, ensuring that they demonstrate reciprocal, modest and enduring value over the long term.

Both Ministers agreed to deepen the practical cooperation in different fields between the two militaries. 
 
This could also go in the Grand Stratey for a Divided America thread which, in the second part of the opening article, said that America "ought to deepen its ties to emerging regional powers," including China, in order to "better influence their behavior so that it complements rather than hinders U.S. objectives." But, it also fits, equally well here, so, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Council on Foreign Relations is an article by the CFR's Elizabeth C Economy, a Senior Fellow and Director for Asia Studies:

http://www.cfr.org/china/can-obama-xi-break-summit-stalemate/p30834?cid=soc-Facebook-in-can_obama_xi_break_summit_stalemate-060413
Can Obama, Xi Break Summit Stalemate?

Author: Elizabeth C. Economy, C.V. Starr Senior Fellow and Director for Asia Studies

June 4, 2013

Presidential summits between the United States and China have become disappointingly predictable. Before every summit there is a sense of anticipation. What issues will be at the top of the agenda? What new agreements might be reached? How will the two presidents get along? During the summit, news is scant. There are hints of common purpose, but mostly there are admissions of significant differences. And then, inevitably, there is the post-summit letdown. The issues were the same as always. The leaders didn't really get along (although no one quite says that). And new agreements were never in the cards.

It is possible for President Barack Obama and President Xi Jinping to break this summit stalemate when they meet on June 7 to 8 at the Sunnylands estate in California. To do so, however, will require flipping the summit process on its head. Rather than working toward agreement across all the areas of conflict before them – which after all will take years not days of negotiation – the two presidents need to begin by headlining what in the U.S.-China relationship actually works and then delivering that message to the American and Chinese publics.

It won't be easy. The record of shared success is slim. Nonetheless, Presidents Xi and Obama could begin by reviewing the thirty years of growing trade and investment that has made the two countries each other's second largest trading partners. People in the United States have benefited from China's investment in U.S. treasuries, from low-cost Chinese consumer goods (often for U.S. brands, thereby benefiting U.S. companies and shareholders), and increasingly, albeit slowly, from Chinese investment in the United States and rising U.S. exports to China.

The Chinese people, in turn, have gained enormously from U.S. investment in their country, as well as the transfer of technology and management know-how. From there, the two presidents should lay out a path forward for growing the economic relationship, including concrete steps toward a bilateral investment treaty and free trade agreement. Of course, there are serious problems and legitimate gripes on both sides, but the trade and investment story is nonetheless a compelling one, and the best the two presidents have.

There are a few other areas where consensus may be emerging, and if real, Xi and Obama should highlight them during their time at Sunnylands: China's stance on North Korea has inched closer to that of the United States, Japan, and South Korea; the Chinese have indicated an interest in joining the Transpacific Partnership negotiations, an agreement some Chinese analysts previously described as designed deliberately to exclude Beijing; and there has been a preliminary announcement that China will adopt a hard target for CO2 emissions reduction, something it has refused to consider for more than twenty years.

But there is no sweeping under the carpet all the problems in the U.S.-China relationship – they far outnumber any potential list of wins that could be mustered. Moreover, new areas of friction emerge daily as China asserts its economic and strategic interests in ways that upend the international norms and institutions that have prevailed since World War II. Attempts to promote ideas about a G-2 or "new relationship among the major powers" are therefore premature and should wait until the effort to develop a win-win story becomes more effortless.

Still, if the United States and China are to begin to address the trust deficit that so many commentators in both countries have noted, the two presidents will have to tell their people not only why the relationship matters but also, more importantly, why it works.

This article appears in full on CFR.org by permission of its original publisher. It was originally available here.



The "trust deficit" is, in my opinion, all too real - and it is firmly in place on both sides, and with some good reason on both sides.

China is neither blameless nor the victim; it is both an aggressor ~ doing whatever it can to, at least, discomfit America, and the subject of both overt and covert American aggression, including a massive 9and, in my opinion) government coordinated propaganda campaign that is waged through the independent media.*

But both America and China have a vital interest in establishing and maintaining peaceful and if not friendly at least correct relations which are based on some solid measures of trust ~ mutual trust.

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* A couple of years ago I helped a Chinese graduate student comb through hundreds and hundreds of randomly selected US media reports about China. I was expecting all lot of duff gen - very few people, and even fewer journalists bother to try to understand China, but even I was astounded at how often the same bits of misinformation and a few outright lies reappeared, in many different media outlets. My question was: are they journalistic "common knowledge" and just assumed to be fact or are they "planted" in the media by a third party?
 
This is from "The World According to China," a TIME article from this month that's another good read. As said before, encouraging ardent nationalism is one way that China's party leaders continue to legitimize their power, and a way to distract China's masses from problems at home, such as rampant corruption and the environmental problems that come with continuing economic prosperity and industrialization.

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Liu mingfu likes to think he is the oracle of a new era. A retired colonel with the ramrod bearing of a career soldier, he has never been to the U.S. but is a self-proclaimed expert on Sino-American relations: he lectured on the subject at the National Defense University in Beijing, the training ground for the People's Liberation Army (PLA). Three years ago, Liu wrote a best-selling book called China Dream: Great Power Thinking and Strategic Positioning of China in the Post-American Age. In his hawkish tome, Liu explained that China needed a strong, martial leader and offered advice for his...

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The USS Freedom pulled into Singapore's harbor on April 18, its hull decorated in gray camouflage as if no one might notice the first of four American littoral combat-ships hosted by the Southeast Asian city state...

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With mounting unease on the home front, Xi is relying on flag-waving to unite the masses against a common foe, be it the US, Japan or even the Philippines...

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In April- even as state newspapers heralded Xi's anti-graft efforts, which include a much hyped crackdown on extravagant banquets and expensive cars for government officials- activists in Beijing were detained after holding a banner that read: "UNLESS WE PUT AN END TO CORRUPT OFFICIALS, THE CHINA DREAM WILL REMAIN A DAYDREAM..."

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(I assume the number of opposing troops at the graphic below on China and the US "sides" of the Pacific actually refers to just naval personnel, since the whole PLA is obviously much bigger than the mere 230,000 stated below.)

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An interesting commentary by Mark Kitto, former expat who lived the "China Dream" then left China...

...and who hits the mark on the reiterated theme of China's "lost glory" and "past humiliations" suffered since the Opium War that is taught on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

Somehow, while Kitto balks at attempts by other Westerners to assimilate into Chinese culture, it makes me wonder if he ever heard of Mark Roswell, a Canadian who became famous in China after being featured at a local television series; Roswell, aka "Da Shan/大山" (big mountain), not only speaks Chinese very fluently and has a Chinese wife, but has at times served as a bridge for Canadian-Chinese relations. He even served as Canada's commissioner general at the Shanghai 2010 expo and as a cultural attaché for our embassy there. The average Chinese "Zhou Blow" ( ;D) on the street on Shanghai would recognize Mark Roswell; my point is he has woven himself into Chinese popular culture and thus farther into Chinese society than most expats.

You'll never be Chinese!


Prospect Magazine, June 11, 2013

Death and taxes. You know how the saying goes. I’d like to add a third certainty: you’ll never become Chinese, no matter how hard you try, or want to, or think you ought to. I wanted to be Chinese, once. I don’t mean I wanted to wear a silk jacket and cotton slippers, or a Mao suit and cap and dye my hair black and proclaim that blowing your nose in a handkerchief is disgusting. I wanted China to be the place where I made a career and lived my life. For the past 16 years it has been precisely that. But now I will be leaving.

I won’t be rushing back either. I have fallen out of love, woken from my China Dream. “But China is an economic miracle: record number of people lifted out of poverty in record time… year on year ten per cent growth… exports… imports… infrastructure… investment…saved the world during the 2008 financial crisis…” The superlatives roll on. We all know them, roughly.

Don’t you think, with all the growth and infrastructure, the material wealth, let alone saving the world like some kind of financial whizz James Bond, that China would be a happier and healthier country? At least better than the country emerging from decades of stultifying state control that I met and fell in love with in 1986 when I first came here as a student? I don’t think it is.

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If I had to choose one word to describe China in the mid-1980s it would be optimistic. A free market of sorts was in its early stages. With it came the first inflation China had experienced in 35 years. People were actually excited by that. It was a sign of progress, and a promise of more to come. Underscoring the optimism was a sense of social obligation for which communism was at least in part responsible, generating either the fantasy that one really could be a selfless socialist, or unity in the face of the reality that there was no such thing.

In 1949 Mao had declared from the top of Tiananmen gate in Beijing: “The Chinese people have stood up.” In the mid-1980s, at long last, they were learning to walk and talk.

One night in January 1987 I watched them, chanting and singing as they marched along snow-covered streets from the university quarter towards Tiananmen Square. It was the first of many student demonstrations that would lead to the infamous “incident” in June 1989.

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When I returned to China in 1996, to begin the life and career I had long dreamed about, I found the familiar air of optimism, but there was a subtle difference: a distinct whiff of commerce in place of community. The excitement was more like the  eager anticipation I felt once I had signed a deal (I began my China career as a metals trader), sure that I was going to bank a profit, rather than the thrill that something truly big was about to happen.

A deal had been struck. Deng had promised the Chinese people material wealth they hadn’t known for centuries on the condition that they never again asked for political change. The Party said: “Trust us and everything will be all right.”

Twenty years later, everything is not all right.


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Modern day mainland Chinese society is focused on one object: money and the acquisition thereof. The politically correct term in China is “economic benefit.” The country and its people, on average, are far wealthier than they were 25 years ago. Traditional family culture, thanks to 60 years of self-serving socialism followed by another 30 of the “one child policy,” has become a “me” culture. Except where there is economic benefit to be had, communities do not act together, and when they do it is only to ensure equal financial compensation for the pollution, or the government-sponsored illegal land grab, or the poisoned children. Social status, so important in Chinese culture and more so thanks to those 60 years of communism, is defined by the display of wealth. Cars, apartments, personal jewellery, clothing, pets: all must be new and shiny, and carry a famous foreign brand name. In the small rural village where we live I am not asked about my health or that of my family, I am asked how much money our small business is making, how much our car cost, our dog.

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In rural China, village level decisions that require higher authorisation are passed up the chain of command, sometimes all the way to Beijing, and returned with the note attached: “You decide.” The Party only steps to the fore where its power or personal wealth is under direct threat. The country is ruled from behind closed doors, a building without an address or a telephone number. The people in that building do not allow the leaders they appoint to actually lead. Witness Grandpa Wen, the nickname for the current, soon to be outgoing, prime minister. He is either a puppet and a clever bluff, or a man who genuinely wants to do the right thing. His proposals for reform (aired in a 2010 interview on CNN, censored within China) are good, but he will never be able to enact them, and he knows it.

To rise to the top you must be grey, with no strong views or ideas. Leadership contenders might think, and here I hypothesise, that once they are in position they can show their “true colours.” Too late they realise that will never be possible. As a publisher I used to deal with officials who listened to the people in one of the wings of that building. They always spoke as if there was a monster in the next room, one that cannot be named. It was “them” or “our leaders.” Once or twice they called it the “China Publishing Group.” No such thing exists. I searched hard for it. It is a chimera.

In that building are the people who, according to pundits, will be in charge of what they call the Chinese Century. “China is the next superpower,” we’re told. “Accept it. Deal with it.” How do you deal with a faceless leader, who when called upon to adjudicate in an international dispute sends the message: “You decide”?

It is often argued that China led the world once before, so we have nothing to fear. As the Chinese like to say, they only want to “regain their rightful position.” While there is no dispute that China was once the major world superpower, there are two fundamental problems with the idea that it should therefore regain that “rightful position.”

A key reason China achieved primacy was its size. As it is today, China was, and always will be, big. (China loves “big.” “Big” is good. If a Chinese person ever asks you what you think of China, just say “It’s big,” and they will be delighted.) If you are the biggest, and physical size matters as it did in the days before microchips, you tend to dominate. Once in charge the Chinese sat back and accepted tribute from their suzerain and vassal states, such as Tibet. If trouble was brewing beyond its borders that might threaten the security or interests of China itself, the troublemakers were set against each other or paid off.

The second reason the rightful position idea is misguided is that the world in which China was the superpower did not include the Americas, an enlightened Europe or a modern Africa. The world does not want to live in a Chinese century, just as much of it doesn’t like living in an American one. China, politically, culturally and as a society, is inward looking. It does not welcome intruders—unless they happen to be militarily superior and invade from the north, as did two imperial dynasties, the Yuan (1271-1368) and the Qing (1644-1911), who became more Chinese than the Chinese themselves. Moreover, the fates of the Mongols, who became the Yuan, and Manchu, who became the Qing, provide the ultimate deterrent: “Invade us and be consumed from the inside,” rather like the movie Alien. All non-Chinese are, to the Chinese, aliens, in a mildly derogatory sense. The polite word is “Outsider.” The Chinese are on “The Inside.” Like anyone who does not like what is going on outside—the weather, a loud argument, a natural disaster—the Chinese can shut the door on it. Maybe they’ll stick up a note: “Knock when you’ve decided how to deal with it.”

Leadership requires empathy, an ability to put yourself in your subordinate’s shoes. It also requires decisiveness and a willingness to accept responsibility. Believing themselves to be unique, the Chinese find it almost impossible to empathise. Controlled by people with conflicting interests, China’s government struggles to be decisive in domestic issues, let alone foreign ones. Witness the postponement of the leadership handover thanks to the Bo Xilai scandal. And the system is designed to make avoidance of responsibility a prerequisite before any major decision is taken. (I know that sounds crazy. It is meant to. It is true.)

A leader must also offer something more than supremacy. The current “world leader” offers the world the chance to be American and democratic, usually if they want to be, sometimes by force. The British empire offered freedom from slavery and a legal system, amongst other things. The Romans took grain from Egypt and redistributed it across Europe.

A China that leads the world will not offer the chance to be Chinese, because it is impossible to become Chinese. Nor is the Chinese Communist Party entirely averse to condoning slavery. It has encouraged its own people to work like slaves to produce goods for western companies, to earn the foreign currency that has fed its economic boom. (How ironic that the Party manifesto promised to kick the slave-driving foreigners out of China.) And the Party wouldn’t know a legal system if you swung the scales of justice under its metaphorical nose. (I was once a plaintiff in the Beijing High Court. I was told, off the record, that I had won my case. While my lawyer was on his way to collect the decision the judge received a telephone call. The decision was reversed.) As for resources extracted from Africa, they go to China.

There is one final reason why the world does not want to be led by China in the 21st century. The Communist Party of China has, from its very inception, encouraged strong anti-foreign sentiment. Fevered nationalism is one of its cornerstones. The Party’s propaganda arm created the term “one hundred years of humiliation” to define the period from the Opium Wars to the Liberation, when foreign powers did indeed abuse and coerce a weak imperial Qing government. The second world war is called the War of Resistance Against Japan. To speak ill of China in public, to award a Nobel prize to a Chinese intellectual, or for a public figure to have tea with the Dalai Lama, is to “interfere in China’s internal affairs” and “hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.” The Chinese are told on a regular basis to feel aggrieved at what foreigners have done to them, and the Party vows to exact vengeance on their behalf.

The alternative scenario to a world dominated by an aggrieved China is hardly less bleak and illustrates how China already dominates the world and its economy. That is the increasing likelihood that there will be upheaval in China within the next few years, sparked by that property crash. When it happens it will be sudden, like all such events. Sun Yat Sen’s 1911 revolution began when someone set off a bomb by accident. Some commentators say it will lead to revolution, or a collapse of the state. There are good grounds. Everything the Party does to fix things in the short term only makes matters worse in the long term by setting off property prices again. Take the recent cut in interest rates, which was done to boost domestic consumption, which won’t boost itself until the Party sorts out the healthcare system, which it hasn’t the money for because it has been invested in American debt, which it can’t sell without hurting the dollar, which would raise the value of the yuan and harm exports, which will shut factories and put people out of work and threaten social stability.

I hope the upheaval, when it comes, is peaceful, that the Party does not try to distract people by launching an attack on Taiwan or the Philippines. Whatever form it takes, it will bring to an end China’s record-breaking run of economic growth that has supposedly driven the world’s economy and today is seen as our only hope of salvation from recession.

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Fear of violent revolution or domestic upheaval, with a significant proportion of that violence sure to be directed at foreigners, is not the main reason I am leaving China, though I shan’t deny it is one of them.

Apart from what I hope is a justifiable human desire to be part of a community and no longer be treated as an outsider, to run my own business in a regulated environment and not live in fear of it being taken away from me, and not to concern myself unduly that the air my family breathes and the food we eat is doing us physical harm, there is one overriding reason I must leave China. I want to give my children a decent education.

The domestic Chinese lower education system does not educate. It is a test centre. The curriculum is designed to teach children how to pass them. In rural China, where we have lived for seven years, it is also an elevation system. Success in exams offers a passport to a better life in the big city. Schools do not produce well-rounded, sociable, self-reliant young people with inquiring minds. They produce winners and losers. Winners go on to college or university to take “business studies.” Losers go back to the farm or the local factory their parents were hoping they could escape.

There is little if any sport or extracurricular activity. Sporty children are extracted and sent to special schools to learn how to win Olympic gold medals. Musically gifted children are rammed into the conservatories and have all enthusiasm and joy in their talent drilled out of them. (My wife was one of the latter.)

And then there is the propaganda. Our daughter’s very first day at school was spent watching a movie called, roughly, “How the Chinese people, under the firm and correct leadership of the Party and with the help of the heroic People’s Liberation Army, successfully defeated the Beichuan Earthquake.” Moral guidance is provided by mythical heroes from communist China’s recent past, such as Lei Feng, the selfless soldier who achieved more in his short lifetime than humanly possible, and managed to write it all down in a diary that was miraculously “discovered” on his death.

The pressure makes children sick. I speak from personal experience. To score under 95 per cent is considered failure. Bad performance is punished. Homework, which consists mostly of practice test papers, takes up at least one day of every weekend. Many children go to school to do it in the classroom. I have seen them trooping in at 6am on Sundays. In the holidays they attend special schools for extra tuition, and must do their own school’s homework for at least a couple of hours every day to complete it before term starts again. Many of my local friends abhor the system as much as I do, but they have no choice. I do. I am lucky.

An option is to move back to a major Chinese city and send our children to an expensive international school—none of which offer boarding—but I would be worried about pollution, and have to get a proper job, most likely something to do with foreign business to China, which my conscience would find hard.

I pity the youth of China that cannot attend the international schools in the cities (which have to set limits on how many Chinese children they accept) and whose parents cannot afford to send them to school overseas, or do not have access to the special schools for the Party privileged. China does not nurture and educate its youth in a way that will allow them to become the leaders, inventors and innovators of tomorrow, but that is the intention. The Party does not want free thinkers who can solve its problems. It still believes it can solve them itself, if it ever admits it has a problem in the first place. The only one it openly acknowledges, ironically, is its corruption. To deny that would be impossible.

The Party does include millions of enlightened officials who understand that something must be done to avert a crisis. I have met some of them. If China is to avoid upheaval then it is up to them to change the Party from within
, but they face a long uphill struggle, and time is short.

I have also encountered hundreds of well-rounded, wise Chinese people with a modern world view, people who could, and would willingly, help their motherland face the issues that are growing into state-shaking problems. It is unlikely they will be given the chance. I fear for some of them who might ask for it, just as my classmates and I feared for our Chinese friends while we took our final exams at SOAS in 1989.

I read about Ai Weiwei, Chen Guangchen and Liu Xiaobo on Weibo, the closely monitored Chinese equivalent of Twitter and Facebook, where a post only has to be up for a few minutes to go viral. My wife had never heard of them until she started using the site. The censors will never completely master it. (The day my wife began reading Weibo was also the day she told me she had overcome her concerns about leaving China for the UK.) There are tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of mainland Chinese who “follow” such people too, and there must be countless more like them in person, trying in their small way to make China a better place. One day they will prevail. That’ll be a good time to become Chinese. It might even be possible.
 
S.M.A. said:
An interesting commentary by Mark Kitto, former expat who lived the "China Dream" then left China...

...and who hits the mark on the reiterated theme of China's "lost glory" and "past humiliations" suffered since the Opium War that is taught on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

Somehow, while Kitto balks at attempts by other Westerners to assimilate into Chinese culture, it makes me wonder if he ever heard of Mark Roswell, a Canadian who became famous in China after being featured at a local television series; Roswell, aka "Da Shan/大山" (big mountain), not only speaks Chinese very fluently and has a Chinese wife, but has at times served as a bridge for Canadian-Chinese relations. He even served as Canada's commissioner general at the Shanghai 2010 expo and as a cultural attaché for our embassy there. The average Chinese "Zhou Blow" ( ;D) on the street on Shanghai would recognize Mark Roswell; my point is he has woven himself into Chinese popular culture and thus farther into Chinese society than most expats.


And the same magazine offered a "counterpoint:" Why I’m sticking with China by Marjorie Perry, a Program Associate with the China Program.

Mark Kitto's concerns are all valid and one can understand that, at some point, frustration and fear will overcome opportunity and optimism ~ as they appear to have for Mr. Kitto. Everything he says  rings true, but so does what Ms. Perry says, too.

Your point about Da Shan is very well taken. I met him in 2010, in Shanghai: he struck me as a happy man who managed to be both Canadian and Chinese, but he's a celebrity and he's in a very different circumstance than an entrepreneur like Mr. Kitto.
 
Including 2 nuclear carriers?

Source: China Daily Mail link

Excerpt:
Elite Reference magazine says, “There has been analysis that China will carry out its plan for aircraft carrier construction by stages. At the first stage, four conventional carriers will be built; while at the second stage, at least two nuclear carriers will be built. They are expected to be delivered to Chinese navy around 2020.”
 
I wonder how bold China's claims will become by then. Or if they are ever going to ever build those submarine aircraft carriers. As cool as it sounds, it's been done.
 
UnwiseCritic said:
Or if they are ever going to ever build those submarine aircraft carriers. As cool as it sounds, it's been done.

You mean like those I-400/Sen-Toku class submarines the Japanese had from World War II?

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Anyways, here's another article about China's ambitions for Sri Lanka and the Indian Ocean region:

Is Sri Lanka Becoming A Key Player In China’s String Of Pearls?

China has offered Sri Lanka new loans for infrastructure projects, worth US$ 2.2 billion dollars. In a reply to a question, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Mr. Hong Lei told the news media that in addition to infrastructure loans, both countries agreed to further deepen defence cooperation and maintain exchanges between two defence ministries, whilst they continue to carry out in cooperating defence technology, personal training and other fields. Yet, the spokesperson did not reveal further details regarding the nature of the new strategic cooperation.

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Google "Kra Canal" or "Thai Canal" or Kra Isthmus." The Chinese are preparing to spend 25+ Billion on this project which will, inter alia, do serious harm to Singapore's status as East Asia's entrepôt.
 
Yea those are the ones. I remember reading about it back in the day. I think they surrenderred near Panama in the middle of sneaky mission. I can only imagine Americans freaking out tring to find a ghost aircraft carrier if they were ever used. What a brilliant idea and way ahead of its time. Anyways the Americans were astonished at this technology, they recorded it and destroyed the subs so that Russia couldn't get it's hands on the technology. I'm surprised no one has tried to recreate this. I remember reading an article on china building a modern one or at least they had plans too. Might come in handy if you wanted to support someone with air power and not have the rest of the world no about it.

I think they are preparing for a Cold war, that will be a little warmer. Back to a bi-polar world we go. With the Warsaw pact being Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.
 
I don't think a "submarine aircraft carrier" resembling WWII era Imperial Japanese Navy subs will be built.

Look instead to Soviet era Cruise Missile Submarines (Подводная Лодка Атомная Ракетная Крылатая [Podvodnaya Lodka Atomnaya Raketnaya Krylataya]) like the OSCAR class or the USS OHIO class SSGN with 154 cruise missiles on board as the models for underwater strike vessels. Even late model Los Angeles class SSN's carrying Harpoons and Tomahawks in torpedo tubes and VL cells can be considered as fully developed examples of this sort of warship.

Replacing some of the cruise missiles with UAV or UCAVs is a possibility, especially if the UAVs are used to identify targets and can follow up to do BDAs. These UAV or UCAVs will be evolved from current cruise missiles, with sophisticated sensors and communications replacing the warheads. Farther in the future, hypersonic cruise missiles or boost glide weapons will be carried to reduce the "flash to bang" times.

I'm not sure how far along the Chinese are in these developments.
 
Another possibility is attack helicopters, pop up with a few anti-ship missiles, fire, fly away land and the sub disappears. Though same could be done with drones, it all depends the direction china wants to go.
 
I think Hong Kong is the canary in China's coal mine and, according to this report which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from Bloomberg News, Hong Kong's confidence in China, specifically in "one country, two systems," has fallen to a record low level:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-20/hong-kong-faith-in-china-falls-to-20-year-low-as-snowden-arrives.html
Hong Kong Faith in China Falls to 20-Year Low as Snowden Arrives

By Bloomberg News - Jun 20, 2013

Hong Kong residents’ disapproval of the “one country, two systems” system that gives their city autonomy from China rose to the highest level since before the territory reverted to Chinese rule in 1997, a poll showed.

Some 47.2 percent of people participating in the poll said they weren’t confident in the arrangement, compared to 47.1 percent who said they were, the highest level of dissatisfaction since 1994, according to today’s survey by the Public Opinion Program at Hong Kong University.

The survey was carried out June 10-13, around the time news broke that former National Security contractor Edward Snowden had fled to Hong Kong and revealed a secret U.S. surveillance program. While Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying said the city will handle any U.S. extradition request according to the law, the case has raised concern that China will dictate Snowden’s fate.

Thirty-two percent of respondents said they trusted the Hong Kong government, down 12 percentage points from a March survey, while 25 percent trusted the central government in Beijing, also a 12 percentage point decline.

Hong Kong’s residents enjoy civil liberties such as freedom of speech and freedom of assembly that people in the mainland don’t have. They were guaranteed those rights for 50 years from the 1997 handover from U.K. control.

The telephone survey of 1,055 people had a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points.


Snowden is, in my opinion, a red herring ~ my guess (and that's all it is) is that the Hong Kong people see him as just another symptom of Beijing's tendency to interfere.

This matters because China's soft power campaign for Taiwan rests, mainly, on Taiwan believing that China can be trusted and Hong Kong's "liberties" are the test. If the central government in Beijing cannot manage "one country. two systems" with the limited autonomy Hong Kong has then how will it possibly manage "one country, two systems" when Taiwan (and Hong Kong) will have been guaranteed much, much more autonomy?

 
Xinjiang: a powder keg for further, more violent unrest since this latest incident?

Riots in China's Xinjiang-Uighur region

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"Seventeen people had been killed -- including nine policemen or security guards and eight civilians -- before police opened fire and shot dead 10 rioters," Xinhua said, quoting the officials.

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China maintains foreign Uighur groups linked to the East Turkistan Islamic Movement are to blame for the trouble in the region. Chinese authorities have said the movement trains in neighboring Pakistan but the World Uighur Congress, based in Stockholm, Sweden, disputes the allegations.
 
S.M.A. said:
Xinjiang: a powder keg for further, more violent unrest since this latest incident?

Riots in China's Xinjiang-Uighur region


No question Xinjiang is, as you say, a "powder keg." In this case I believe the Chinese government; I think there is a separatist movement in Xinjiang that is financed and provoked (think "agent provocateur") from outside. My guess is that Gulf (probably Saudi) money and West Asian - Turkic - people are behind all this. Not to suggest that the Uyghurs are not, themselves, sufficiently discontented, but I suspect outside support and influence, too.

Thus far the Chinese approach to this insurgency has focused on economic development and police actions. As far as I understand it, and I am anything but well informed about the Chinese military, the Lanzhou military region (one of seven in China), the region that includes Xinjiang province, has two (of 18) corps in it (21st and 47th) both of which are a) stationed in the East of the region - rather far from the major Uyghur cities - and b) "training" formations - undermanned and poorly equipped. The Chinese military, as I understand it, does not think COIN - at least not the way we do. But they do think internal security and development/nation building.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
No question Xinjiang is, as you say, a "powder keg." In this case I believe the Chinese government; I think there is a separatist movement in Xinjiang that is financed and provoked (think "agent provocateur") from outside. My guess is that Gulf (probably Saudi) money and West Asian - Turkic - people are behind all this. Not to suggest that the Uyghurs are not, themselves, sufficiently discontented, but I suspect outside support and influence, too.

Thus far the Chinese approach to this insurgency has focused on economic development and police actions. As far as I understand it, and I am anything but well informed about the Chinese military, the Lanzhou military region (one of seven in China), the region that includes Xinjiang province, has two (of 18) corps in it (21st and 47th) both of which are a) stationed in the East of the region - rather far from the major Uyghur cities - and b) "training" formations - undermanned and poorly equipped. The Chinese military, as I understand it, does not think COIN - at least not the way we do. But they do think internal security and development/nation building.

What about the 1.5 million strong People's Armed Police/PAP, which is essentially a dissent-crushing, internal security army? If I can recall correctly, they recently sent the "Snow Leopard commando unit," which specializes in counterterrorism and riot control, to Xinjiang.
 
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