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Thanks. I am unfamiliar with alot of aspects of reserve service, hence why i asked.
PuckChaser said:I think that's an acceptable compromise as well, there are a lot of PRes units not close to a major base.
Spectrum said:At the same time, it would be nice for reservists to able to be do formed PT for a full parade night each week. If money was to be spent, I think it would be better spent on adding another parade night for each unit to soley dedicate to PT. That way at least you could tell who was showing up and doing it.
a Sig Op said:Sorry, but that's a terrible idea. I don't know about other units, but we've got enough trouble getting people to show up for regular parade nights as is now, let alone if we were expecting them to show up for extra PT!!
I've made a compromise with my troops (Actually, troop, as in the sub-division of a squadron) any time i can/can get away with it... I always try to integrate PT into any garrison training... any day we're doing in garrison work, I make it clear to my troops the day before (So they bring gym gear) that if we get our work done early, we can got to to the gym at 14:30, so bring PT gear (Also with the provision that they WILL go to to the gym till 1600, or there'll be work found for them to do elsewhere). No one ever makes the mistake of "forgetting" their PT gear and calling my bluff on the finding work for them to do more than once.
I've also done things like squeeze in snow shoe PT, a run, different stuff like that in the morning with the blessing of the chain of command and the somewhat democratic agreement of the troop... along the lines of "ok, show up at 0730, we'll do PT till 0830, and we'll cut loose by 1530". Realistically, most garrison days, we're gone by or around 15:30 anyway, so from the chain of command's point of view, they're only loosing a half hour of work, but they're also getting the troop out for PT for an hour... so it all works out...
Any fun group PT you can do also does wonders for morale.
Spectrum said:Agreed though...you can get a lot more out of "fun PT" in some cases. I find myself sweating pretty hard during a good game of floor hockey or soccer.
prima6 said:(2 for an exemption, 2 more for also beating the CO).
prima6 said:We also have an incentive program where you can earn up to 4 short days depending on your performance on the EXPRES (2 for an exemption, 2 more for also beating the CO).
Spectrum said:Prima,
Sounds neat. Does your unit have that policy written into official orders that a person could get a hold of? I might use it as an example and suggest a similar idea here.
6. Short Leave. Short leave is a measure I have available to reward personnel who deserve recognition for hard work, often outside of normal working hours. I am the only authority for Short Leave. The Divisional Chain of Command is to recommend occasions when Short Leave may be warranted for a member to me via a Personnel Request Form. The exception to this is that one day of short shall be granted for members who achieve an “exempt” status on their CF EXPRES test, and it need only be annotated on the leave request form as such.
Really, now? Have you seen the CF EXPRES Minimum Physical Fitness Standard? It ain't that hard!!!jwtg said:The CF expects above average fitness from it's members.
jwtg said:This includes (where possible) incentives and opportunities to encourage CF members to partake in PT during working hours. RegF members make it their day to day activity to be in the CF, so the CF should assist in facilitating their PT in their day to day activities. The CF should also take a strong and uniform stance on people failing to meet fitness standards.
Haggis said:Really, now? Have you seen the CF EXPRES Minimum Physical Fitness Standard? It ain't that hard!!!
Haggis said:The incentive should be "keeipng my job". Mechanisms for enforcement already exist in DAOD 5023-2 but are rarely used.
jwtg said:It's members should take initiative (and have opportunity) to invest their time in above average fitness.
jwtg said:If the CF is going to say this is a priority, then they have to make it a priority and make real consequences for failing to meet the standards.