CF Hair Regulations - superthread [MERGED]

[Fishbone Jones]

Questions been answered.
To reiterate, wait till your told by your instructor what they want to see and then follow their direction.

 

[Chimo]

I see this as an NCO/Leader problem. Once we all get on the same sheet of music and enforce the existing regulations this discussion will end. It has been my experience most NCOs are hesitant to correct a female soldier on her hair. The regs are clearly stated. The RSM sets the standard for a Regiment and the NCOs duty is to enforce the standards and regs.

Now get on with it. If you don't like it, voice your concern in a constructive way, then continue to enforce the standard.  

 

[ZipperHead]

I see this as an NCO/Leader problem. Once we all get on the same sheet of music and enforce the existing regulations this discussion will end. It has been my experience most NCOs are hesitant to correct a female soldier on her hair. The regs are clearly stated. The RSM sets the standard for a Regiment and the NCOs duty is to enforce the standards and regs.

Now get on with it. If you don't like it, voice your concern in a constructive way, then continue to enforce the standard. 

I think we can all agree on your main points (leadership, enforcing standards), but it seems that today everything is far from clear. I haven't waded into the latest amendments on the convoluted hair debate (specifically colour), but I have seen far too many people (male and female) wandering around with questionable hair colouring. I know that there are more pressing concerns than what somebody has attached to their head, but I feel that there is too much vagueness in the regulations in that regard. For example, would a person of African descent (i.e a Negro) be allowed to have their hair coloured a colour that nature, or more precisely their genes, wouldn't allow, such as blonde? Or myself, who is of Finnish descent, and fair haired and fair skinned, to dye my hair black, and perhaps into a (no more than allowed by regs for bulk) Afro? They are "natural" colours and styles, but not for that individual.

To be honest, hair is only hair. You either have it, or not (at the moment, I fall into the latter category).  It shouldn't define who you are, and if it does, wow!!! What happens when you lose it? Do you cease to exist? I'm moving off into the existential, so that is a sure sign that I should sum up....

Al

 

[qor556]

For practical means, hair being short and off the collar is much more comfortable when it is very hot/humid outside...keeps you MUCH cooler, but conversely in the winter there is less insulation of the head Leniency during the winter months make sense I suppose.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

For practical means, hair being short and off the collar is much more comfortable when it is very hot/humid outside...keeps you MUCH cooler, but conversely in the winter there is less insulation of the head Leniency during the winter months make sense I suppose.

As most old time barbers will tell you, the human hair is not hollow like most mammals. It provides no insulating value worth speaking of. Might act as a wind break of sorts, but so does a proper hat.

 

[wulfzbane]

so i have a mohawk.. would that be considered acceptable or would i have to shave it all off

 

[Michael OLeary]

so i have a mohawk.. would that be considered acceptable or would i have to shave it all off

You'll be losing it.

 

[George Wallace]

You are a woman, and there are a couple of acceptable ways for women in the CF to wear braids.  This has been covered before, and someone has even been able to post pictures of the acceptable ways to wear your hair.

You may put some thought into what the words "uniform" and "uniformity" mean.  That may greatly benefit you during Recruit Training.

 

[annemarielyman]

I have heard (rumor) that a bun cannot be worn with a helmet. Is this so? I'm only concerned besause I have no clue how to french braid hair. I've seen the pics, but seeing and doing are turning out to be quite different. If this is the case I may just line up with the guys and take the GI Jane cracks.  ;D

 

[beach_bum]

babybinrat.  I have long hair and manage to put it in a bun and still wear a helmet.  It does work. 

 

[lawandorder]

The bun just has to sit lower then normal.

 

[Thaern]

Alright, I'm 100% new to this forum, and if my interveiw goes well the army reserves, so forgive me if theres already a post somewhere about this.  I was wondering what suggestions you guys could make about hair style.  My GF really hates short crewcut hair so i was wondering what types of other hair styles meet the standards and still at least look longer than a crewcut.  Note, im not trying to bend or break any of the regs i was just wondering if anyone has any tips on atleast making it look a bit longer or how to get it cut so it looks  grown out by the end of bmq.

 

[2929]

You girlfriend better get used to short hair because you'll be getting a nice 1 all over just before your grad parade. Luckily you will be used to it because you will have gotten them every couple of weeks since the first day of basic.

 

[beach_bum]

Alright, I'm 100% new to this forum, and if my interveiw goes well the army reserves, so forgive me if theres already a post somewhere about this.  I was wondering what suggestions you guys could make about hair style.  My GF really hates short crewcut hair so i was wondering what types of other hair styles meet the standards and still at least look longer than a crewcut.  Note, im not trying to bend or break any of the regs i was just wondering if anyone has any tips on atleast making it look a bit longer or how to get it cut so it looks  grown out by the end of bmq.

Did you read the last 25 pages?  I don't think there is a single thing left to discuss on hair cuts that hasn't already been addressed.

 

[MrCanada]

Hi guys, I'm thinking about joining the reserves and have a question about hair. My hair right now is down to my shoulders, and I have no problem getting it cut, but I'm just a bit confused about how short it has to be. I have acne (not a bit, but a lot) on my face and all over my head, and I have some scarring too, and longer hair helps to draw attention away from it, whereas shorter hair seems to magnify it. I hate the idea of short hair ruining my self esteem, because I have been bullied for my acne/big ears before, but I still want to join the army. I've seen army haircuts before and the short length just looks scary. Here's what I've read:

The Book is the CANADIAN FORCES DRESS INSTRUCTIONS A-AD-265-000/AG-001, dated 2002-10-04 (mod 1.)

Hair on the head shall be neatly groomed and conservatively styled. The length, bulk or style of hair shall not detract from a positive military appearance or preclude the proper wear of military headdress. (Bulk is the distance that the mass of hair extends from the skin, when groomed, as opposed to the length of hair.) In particular, style and colour shall not present a bizarre, exaggerated, or unusual appearance. Unusual colours, such as green, bright red, orange, purple, etc., are not permitted. Hair must be secured or styled back to reveal the face, and any accessories used to secure or control hair styles shall be as unobtrusive as possible. Hair ornaments shall not be worn, except women’s conservative barrettes which blend with thehair colour. Shaving of all of the hair on the head is permitted. The personal manner of wearing hair within these general style limits, including moustaches, beards and braids, shall be modified to the degree necessary to accommodate operational or occupational equipment, such as gas, oxygen and scuba masks, hard, combat and flying helmets, etc., where a member’s safety or mission is put in jeopardy.

The following additional details apply to specific groups to accord with religious and spiritual practices and public perceptions of a disciplined force:
a. Men (see Figure 2-2-1).
Hair shall be tapertrimmed at the back, sides, and above the ears to blend with the hair-style; be no more than 15 cm (6 in.) in length and sufficiently short that, when the hair is groomed and headdress is removed, no hair shall touch the ears or fall below the top of the eyebrows; be no more than 4 cm (1-1/2 in.) in bulk at the top of the head, gradually decreasing to blend with the taper-trimmed sides and back; and be kept free from the neck to a distance of 2.5 cm (1 in.) above the shirt collar. Taper trimmed square back styles and shaving of all the hair on the head are permitted.

So out of these, which ones would be okay?

1) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=men%27s+tapered+haircut&start=34&num=10&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=ChfuwzDmFuDD0M:&imgrefurl=http://www.haircutshairstyles.com/celebrity-mens-hairstyles.shtml&docid=k_axTI8DcWXd3M&imgurl=http://pics.haircutshairstyles.com/img/photos/full/2009-07/taylor_lautner_short_layered_haircut371.jpg&w=225&h=300&ei=a48uT4vXOa7aiQKwttTgCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=584&vpy=434&dur=3923&hovh=240&hovw=180&tx=92&ty=132&sig=100439230851368422389&sqi=2&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=107&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:34

2) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Akshaye+Khanna+Haircut&um=1&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=pfroNCro2Ye_oM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bharatwaves.com/news/Venky-walks-the-ramp-with-King-fisher-models-8156.html&docid=BX8OzuADHSf3lM&imgurl=http://www.bharatwaves.com/portal/uploads/original_Akshaye-Khanna_47308b15da01a.jpg&w=470&h=300&ei=jo8uT6_uMqnciQKG49GsCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=334&sig=100439230851368422389&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=179&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=137&ty=91

3) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Mens+medium+hair&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=XCNPsB64ee91xM:&imgrefurl=http://www.menshaircuts.net/medium-long-hairstyles-for-men-2012/&docid=JOsTpQAXYRFXSM&imgurl=http://www.menshaircuts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/messy1.jpg&w=400&h=362&ei=lpAuT62dI8iviQL93b2aCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=485&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=153&start=39&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:39&tx=106&ty=49

4) In this picture, the guy on the left: http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Long+army+hair&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=Pa7GQMkM-MzLLM:&imgrefurl=http://gocomics.typepad.com/the_sandbox/2007/12/peace-out.html&docid=98tPrHScFZ7YZM&imgurl=http://gocomics.typepad.com/the_sandbox/images/2007/12/13/framed_dude_peaceout_1_2.jpg&w=595&h=446&ei=MZMuT8WeBKnJiQLJ-aSuCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=345&vpy=185&dur=4165&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=162&ty=106&sig=100439230851368422389&page=1&tbnh=119&tbnw=164&start=0&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

5) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Long+army+hair&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=__w8W8IiNKs0LM:&imgrefurl=http://www.menhairstyle.org/short-hairstyle-types-for-males.html&docid=k4OPrkvxH7BJbM&imgurl=http://www.menhairstyle.org/wp-content/gallery/short-hair-types/Funky%252520men%252520hairstyle%252520from%252520Daniel%252520Radcliffe.jpg&w=362&h=362&ei=MZMuT8WeBKnJiQLJ-aSuCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1078&vpy=331&dur=1005&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=117&ty=93&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=131&tbnw=131&start=35&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:32,s:35

6) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Mens+medium+bangs&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=Xl20cMCBirOhHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hairstyleagain.com/hair-style-beauty/mens-trendy-hairstyle-fringe/&docid=0WnUAN30vfdkaM&imgurl=http://www.hairstyleagain.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mens-trendy-hairstyle-fringe.jpg&w=600&h=430&ei=4JQuT9C-F6fYiQLb5smbCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=377&vpy=484&dur=4146&hovh=190&hovw=265&tx=187&ty=127&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=136&tbnw=185&start=23&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:23


I like the 3rd and 6th pics, and wouldn't mind cutting the sides and back a bit shorter. Thoughts? Just state which numbers would work. Maybe the second?

 

[PuckChaser]

All of those haircuts are going to be unacceptable for your BMQ.

Try googling pictures of CF members, all the pictures you have are either Americans or models: none of which will have the same hair cut standard as us.

 

[MrCanada]

I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

 

[MJP]

I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

What you thought and reality are far apart.  Trust us they are all unacceptable for a a person starting out.  Once in a unit you have a bit more leeway but it still can't be touching the ears or looking like a rats nest along the sides.

 

[Franko]

I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

You thought wrong.

Regards

 

[Silverfire]

Hair can't touch your collar or ears.  During BMQ they'll ask you if you want a 1 or a 2. Those are your options.  Take what you can get.