Dean22 said:
More information would be interesting to high school kids but on a whole I disagree because at that age 90% of people who seriously take into consideration the military is because of all those damn video games they play that make it out to be such an awesome thing.
If your concern is that most high school students have all the wrong reasons for being in the military, why would you oppose a mechanism through which to provide them the honest truth?
Dean22 said:
As people get older their reality meter kicks in and then they are more mature to think about joining for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones.
Do you propose that we treat youth like mushrooms (kept in the dark & fed bull manure)? They should be unleashed on the world at 19 having never had to deal with conflicting facts/opinion or the making of a difficult decision? Shut-down all career activities in schools because teenagers might not be ready to handle the information? That all doesn't sound right to me.
Dean22 said:
For people pro to recruitment in schools why not take it a step further? Let's have recruitment in churches, amateur sports, and some guy's funeral.
Slippery Slope = Fallacious Argument.
We are not debating recruitment events at churches or funerals. You are attempting to obfuscate the issue.
Dean22 said:
Even if recruitment was allowed at high schools why on earth would the Canadian Forces ever do it? We are full of recruits at the moment anyways and are above recruitment needs (and budget).
Infantry for example is full until next April.
1. You are in error. You cannot extrapolate the example of the infantry to cover the whole of the CF - it is not logical and it leads you to the wrong answer (there are many other still open occupation). You just pulled the budget assumption out of your back-side, and it is also incorrect: the schools are still in operations and churning through new service pers.
2. You are again attempting to obfuscate the issue. We need to recruit and inform potential future recruits - that does not change even if we have a reduced demand (which we do not).
Dean22 said:
If the Canadian Forces recruits for anything but high school graduates for the regular force isn't it against their education?
No, because potential recruits are encouraged to complete high school and warned that not completing high school would make them less competitive next to a graduate.
Dean22 said:
Are they not quitting high school for the military?
If they are, they should have listened. They might find themselves greatly disappointed when they don't get accepted because the positions were filled by high school graduates.
Dean22 said:
What kind of message does that send when the military would rather you join up than finish your education?
The message they get if they come to a high school display would be to stay in school, maybe take a part-time job in the reserves, and consider some of our over 100 occupational possibilities come graduation. .... maybe its a good idea to keep this information source open to high school students?
Dean22 said:
If military recruitment got to a point where it was pulling kids out of school for Regular Force before they finished high school then who would agree with it?
We are not there, and we are not going there. This is another slippery slope argument. Do you want to fight the bogeyman under your bed, or join us in reality?
Dean22 said:
If you can't finish mandatory schooling that your forced to go to (pretty much) or you can't pass 50's on something as easy as high school then why are they being let into the military to learn even harder things than high school and hold responsibilities that can cost lives.
More obfuscation. There may be merit to raising the entrance requirements or maybe there is not. However, much like many other employers who don't want non-high school graduates, we want to educate youth about their options so that they start planning (get fit, stay in school to be competitive, learning French might give an edge, need the maths & sciences if I want a particular job, etc).