The only way to get a combat vessel built and accepted in the next 3 to 4 years would be to commission a shipyard that has just completed one to build another one that was identical right down to the last cable run and pipe fitting. Any change would mean re-design and would add months to the completion date and it would be a ten year old design that has not been updated at all. The problem is not Irving and God knows I am no fan of theirs, it is a department and a ministry and a government that has done no, nada, zilch in the way of planning since the Halifax's came down the ways. The new frigates should have been on the drawing boards at that time and kept updated so that when it was time to let the contract the government could have said here is what you are bidding on. So we are what, 20 years behind where we should be. We are now playing catch-up and hopefully Trudeau et al won't screw it up by trying to change it in midstream because in the early 30's we will finally start to gain a decent navy once again.I think PIVO brings forward some really excellent points. Waiting until the 2030's to start replacing the Halifax class ships is to long. We should be getting hulls in the water within 3-4 years max. There are way to many contractual agreements that are one sided to make this anything more then a dismal failure. Davie ship yards produced a modified Tanker ship to full fil our needs in excellent time. They could have supplied us with another shortly after. But due to politics nothing else they were stood down. Canada is lacking in the ship building combat ship design ability as they were back in the 1990s when the Halifax class was built. At the time they were looking for ways to keep that from happening again. Well here we are and we are dealing with the same issues.
As for not being able to run two different ship classes I say that's just hog wash. Old school mentality of if its not my idea I don't like it. I think between the new Patrol ships, and the new frigates we could split the frigates into two groups, ASW and Surface warfare. Or a mix between the two. We could add a few hulls. That way they could cycle hulls and keep the maintenance cycle better.
Staffing would not be such a issue if they actually recruited properly. You might even want to run 2 ships each coast as Reserve ships and hire more reservists to staff them. Of course someone is going to say that's impossible, they don't have the skills or the ability to do that. They do and they can if they are giving the tasking to do it.
One can hide behind security requirements all they want. But Davie ship yards does/did maintenance on the CPFs they also built one or two of them if memory is correct, they also built the Tribal class along with doing the modernization of those ships. They have a history of building Navy ships as much as Irving does, their hardships are partly to blame on the government because of the lack of overall program structuring of maintaining a modern fleet and being forward thinkers.
But the liberal government is experts at making deal that is so costly that it can not go through with out a lot of rework. To only pay more in cancelation costs then the actual project would have been.
We have the means and the ability's to get hulls into the water in the next 3-4 years maybe sooner if we worked on it bit more effectively. All the smes on here can chime in and say you don't know what your talking about. Probably the same ones who said griffons couldn't and would not fly or be deployed to Afghanistan.
Canadian Industry can literally move a mountain in a day if it needs to be done. They just need the requirement to do it. Heck Alberta could build a fleet of ships and a canal before this project will get off the ground,.
That doesn't mean that we can't speed things along a little bit by, for example, encouraging Irving to farm out significant sub-assemblies so that their floor space is only occupied by the final assembly work but that is working within the system.