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Are you saying that they need to Reform?The CPC needs to excise that fringe of the party that insists on eating itself.
Are you saying that they need to Reform?The CPC needs to excise that fringe of the party that insists on eating itself.
Uh, sure? Why not all sides excise their fringes?You excise your fringe first....
Excise all fringes, trudeau's party disappears.Uh, sure? Why not all sides excise their fringes?
Sorry, who’s ‘you’? I don’t have a party affiliation or one that I consistently vote for, nor did I vote for the current government.You excise your fringe first....
Because all sides want the maximum number of voters?Uh, sure? Why not all sides excise their fringes?
Some fringes are better than others.Uh, sure? Why not all sides excise their fringes?
You mean trading a smaller number of much less electorally significant votes in already secure ridings for a potentially much larger number of votes in ridings that are in contention? Heresy! Why are you such a woke commie, G2G?Some fringes are better than others.
For the CPC, they would benefit from growing the Red Tory fringe while the SOCONs probably not so much.
I guess your view depends on where you sit.I know, crazy talk!!!
You mean like on which side of the aisle in the HoC?I guess your view depends on where you sit.
Whether you sit in Ottawa, Levis or Lethbridge.You mean like on which side of the aisle in the HoC?
I haven't seen much bitching or whining from a Conservative 'fringe' so far. Given Poliviere's numbers, most seem pretty happy, including walk away red and orange liberals. While trudeau and singh will get votes, I think they will only be from their cult base. Losing your home to live in a tent has a tendency to polarize voters against those responsible....and if he wins the election and forms govt, have a Pikachu face reaction when some of his more right-wing base condemn him for "selling out" to the Centrists, a la Erin O'Toole.
I think that's because the "softer" messaging is still pretty new. He's known as the "attack dog" against the LPC, which is what his base wants. If the softer messaging continues and he stops attacking, I suspect some will start wondering when he "sold out".I haven't seen much bitching or whining from a Conservative 'fringe' so far. Given Poliviere's numbers, most seem pretty happy, including walk away red and orange liberals.
Weird - Doug Ford won another term...While trudeau and singh will get votes, I think they will only be from their cult base. Losing your home to live in a tent has a tendency to polarize voters against those responsible.
freedom of speech provided what you have to say is politically acceptable? Not much of a democracy is it? The sign of a true leader is one who can work with those who more or less side with him on most issues whilst still giving those he may not agree with a voice. Otherwise all you have is a party of yes-persons (like the liberal party is now). Might just as well appoint a dictator for 4 years and have one man ruleThe CPC needs to excise that fringe of the party that insists on eating itself.
Whoa, when did the PPC stop being an option for folks?freedom of speech provided what you have to say is politically acceptable? Not much of a democracy is it? The sign of a true leader is one who can work with those who more or less side with him on most issues whilst still giving those he may not agree with a voice. Otherwise all you have is a party of yes-persons (like the liberal party is now). Might just as well appoint a dictator for 4 years and have one man rule
I think that's because the "softer" messaging is still pretty new. He's known as the "attack dog" against the LPC, which is what his base wants. If the softer messaging continues and he stops attacking, I suspect some will start wondering when he "sold out".
Weird - Doug Ford won another term...
After Maxime's girlfriend broke up with him?Whoa, when did the PPC stop being an option for folks?
Precisely. Lethbridge and Levis are both absolutely safe conservative ridings. The CPC could afford to take quite a hit in both and still safely hold them. Ottawa of course has a number of ridings, but a few are perennially in contention from election to election, and tend to be more centrist with enough persuadable voters for it to matter. So- do the CPC need to reinforce their vote share in Lethbridge (no) or capture more centrist seats from areas like Ottawa, the GTA/Golden Horseshoe, or metropolitan Montreal.Whether you sit in Ottawa, Levis or Lethbridge.
That’s just silly. “Freedom of speech” means you can express an opinion and you don’t face legal jeopardy. Any political party inherently has a need to tailor its platform positions, and to decide what portion of the political spectrum it wants to invite in and what part it wants to exclude. That has no bearing whatsoever on anyone’s rights or freedoms. If a group finds their particular stance on certain issues not welcomed or sought by an existing party, they can form their own- see, for instance, Bernier’s PPC offshoot.freedom of speech provided what you have to say is politically acceptable? Not much of a democracy is it? The sign of a true leader is one who can work with those who more or less side with him on most issues whilst still giving those he may not agree with a voice. Otherwise all you have is a party of yes-persons (like the liberal party is now). Might just as well appoint a dictator for 4 years and have one man rule
Precisely. Lethbridge and Levis are both absolutely safe conservative ridings. The CPC could afford to take quite a hit in both and still safely hold them. Ottawa of course has a number of ridings, but a few are perennially in contention from election to election, and tend to be more centrist with enough persuadable voters for it to matter. So- do the CPC need to reinforce their vote share in Lethbridge (no) or capture more centrist seats from areas like Ottawa, the GTA/Golden Horseshoe, or metropolitan Montreal.