Black Watch not allowed to follow traditional regimental parade

[Black Watch]

who will be the next rsm??? Quesnel?

 

[davidk]

who will be the next rsm??? Quesnel?

The new RSM is CWO Barron. For a guy whose profile says he's in the Black Watch, you're a bit out of the loop.

 

[Black Watch]

The new RSM is CWO Barron. For a guy whose profile says he's in the Black Watch, you're a bit out of the loop.

former BW...now driver for 51st Bn services...yeah, I should update my profile

 

[Michael Dorosh]

I know, it could be a lot worse, and I'm happy that at least we get to march along Ste-Catherine. Still, the vets won't be happy...

I wonder how many of them have rusty Lee-Enfields up in their attic and a grudge against Mayor Tremblay? >

I wasn't aware veterans were allowed to take their weapons home with them.

I wasn't aware that if anyone wanted a Lee Enfield badly enough, he would let it get rusty.

I wasn't aware that military veterans had some special right to assassinate public figures over something as insignificant as a parade route.

I wasn't....

 

[dardt]

According to the local Montreal CTV news the Black Watch took the traditional route anyway.

It also states the bylaw was put in place to avoid large gatherings of people along Sherbrooke St, mainly due to the large amount of hazardous materials carried along this route.

 

[FastEddy]

I wasn't aware veterans were allowed to take their weapons home with them.

I wasn't aware that if anyone wanted a Lee Enfield badly enough, he would let it get rusty.

I wasn't aware that military veterans had some special right to assassinate public figures over something as insignificant as a parade route.

I wasn't....

I wasn't aware that you were appointed Political Correctness and Literary Conscience of this Forum.

I think that most of us knew where "Pte. D Krystal" was coming from or what he meant. Maybe he might have expressed it in another way.

However, his Post did not deserve a Clever but snide reply.

Sadly, certain members of Self Appointed Aloofness, seem not to miss a opportunity to take a clever but non the less a cheap shot.

 

[FastEddy]

In case you haven't heard, The Regiment marched along Sherbrooke anyway on the express orders of the Colonel.

It seems the "LADIES FROM HELL" who weren't afraid of  the Cold Steel, Bullets or Canons of the Hun, weren't afraid of Mayor Tremblay. (who by the way, I'm not permitted to express my sentiments on this Forum)

God Bless and Good Luck to all those who or have Marched to the Swirl of the Pipes and Drums.

Cheers.

 

[geo]

Fast eddy.....
not sure what you're getting at with the "not being able to express your sentiment"???

The city passed a bylaw which was 100% their right to do.
The city gave the BW 3 or 4 years to adjust to the new law (law was passed in 02)
The city does not allow any other parade on Sherbrooke street - INCLUDING the St Jean Baptiste day parade - which to some quebecers is like "the holy grail"....

Given that, in spite of the City's "request" that the Unit comply with municipal laws (at long last) the unit did follow it's heart instead of it's head.... the unit will undoubtedly have to face the consequences.

 

[mcchartman]

The Montreal Gazette has also released an article concerning the Blackwatch's decision to take Sherbrooke nonetheless - and the policemen turning a blind eye:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=d43fddba-14d0-460f-8565-8bd4ee56272b&p=1

I won't comment on the events. It seems opinions on this board are highly divided regarding the subject and I doubt a junior member like myself could influence anyone of you with my ranting (without mentioning the fear of being flamed by a moderator heh).

 

[FastEddy]

Fast eddy.....
not sure what you're getting at with the "not being able to express your sentiment"???

The city passed a bylaw which was 100% their right to do.
The city gave the BW 3 or 4 years to adjust to the new law (law was passed in 02)
The city does not allow any other parade on Sherbrooke street - INCLUDING the St Jean Baptiste day parade - which to some quebecers is like "the holy grail"....

Given that, in spite of the City's "request" that the Unit comply with municipal laws (at long last) the unit did follow it's heart instead of it's head.... the unit will undoubtedly have to face the consequences.

Regarding my Sentiments for our City Hall, its utter contempt, and the language I would use to describe it, is not permitted on this site.

It is also such a comfort to know that one of the Cities Oldest and Beautiful Thou roughfares is being used as you describe, which in my opinion, if it is such a threat to a parade and those who might attend it, then its a threat to everyday traffic. Maybe you haven't noticed, its as busy as St. Catherine St.. Usually traffic is stopped for a hour or so during an event. Its just one of a long list of Self Serving Blunders out of City Hall.

May I apologize at this moment to this Thread for veering off the Topic.

 

[scoutfinch]

Being relatively uninformed on the BW parade, I have one comment to make about the fact that the unit paraded along the route they chose rather than the route they were to parade on:

The deliberate and flagrant flouting of law by the military should not be tolerated by the military nor civilians.  What separates us from banana republics is that the military is subject to the law and a servant of civil society.  It is shocking to me that a military unit should treat the law as an inconvenience to their whim.

/rant off.

 

[FastEddy]

The Montreal Gazette has also released an article concerning the Blackwatch's decision to take Sherbrooke nonetheless - and the policemen turning a blind eye:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=d43fddba-14d0-460f-8565-8bd4ee56272b&p=1

I won't comment on the events. It seems opinions on this board are highly divided regarding the subject and I doubt a junior member like myself could influence anyone of you with my ranting (without mentioning the fear of being flamed by a moderator heh).

I think you've already made a comment, thanks for the Gazette Article.

Don't worry about the Moderators, they are quite fair in their assessments.

Just a passing thought, fill out your profile, whether it be a Cadet, Concerned/Interested Civilian or Student, it nice to know a little about the person your taking to. Remember, if you write like a fool you'll probally will be treated like a fool .

Cheers.

 

[FastEddy]

Being relatively uninformed on the BW parade, I have one comment to make about the fact that the unit paraded along the route they chose rather than the route they were to parade on:

The deliberate and flagrant flouting of law by the military should not be tolerated by the military nor civilians.  What separates us from banana republics is that the military is subject to the law and a servant of civil society.  It is shocking to me that a military unit should treat the law as an inconvenience to their whim.

/rant off.

Its obvious you're going to go far in this Mans Army.

I hope you remember your convictions the next time you drive through a 30 km School Zone.

 

[scoutfinch]

In fact I do.... although there is a substantial difference from someone failing to obey a posted speed sign and a military unit choosing to ignore the law.

By the way,  Fast Eddy, your slags on my career prospects are unnecessary and fall on deaf ears.

From the looks of your profile, you are in law enforcement, non?  Let me guess -- you think the law should not apply to certain professions... yours in particular.

 

[Eowyn]

Being relatively uninformed on the BW parade, I have one comment to make about the fact that the unit paraded along the route they chose rather than the route they were to parade on:

The deliberate and flagrant flouting of law by the military should not be tolerated by the military nor civilians.  What separates us from banana republics is that the military is subject to the law and a servant of civil society.  It is shocking to me that a military unit should treat the law as an inconvenience to their whim.

/rant off.

I agree with you ScoutFinch. +1

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Dead on, scoutfinch.  And why I posted my comments a page or two ago also; the military is not above the law, nor should it be.  Nor should it even give the appearance of being so; I truly believe idiotic comments about veterans starting an insurrection or assassinating people serve no real purpose and can in fact do us harm.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I won't comment on the events. It seems opinions on this board are highly divided regarding the subject and I doubt a junior member like myself could influence anyone of you with my ranting (without mentioning the fear of being flamed by a moderator heh).

mcchartman,

Don't worry. It's mostly all in good fun. You'll be more than made aware, should you cross the magic line ;D

For the rest,

Be careful where you go and how you go, or it'll be locked.

 

[Franko]

I won't comment on the events. It seems opinions on this board are highly divided regarding the subject and I doubt a junior member like myself could influence anyone of you with my ranting (without mentioning the fear of being flamed by a moderator heh).

Comment all you want....we readily encourage it.   

Give 'er!

Regards

 

[FastEddy]

In fact I do.... although there is a substantial difference from someone failing to obey a posted speed sign and a military unit choosing to ignore the law.

By the way,  Fast Eddy, your slags on my career prospects are unnecessary and fall on deaf ears.

From the looks of your profile, you are in law enforcement, non?  Let me guess -- you think the law should not apply to certain professions... yours in particular.

My compliments to you then Sir, you are one of the exceptions to the rule. With regard to the severity of Offences, somehow I think that a Child being hit by a Speeding Motorist in a 30 Km School Zone to a Military Unit Marching to a Church Parade, with a Police Escort in defiance of a City Ordnance is not even in the same league.

As far as slagging your Career, its strange you should find it derogatory rather than complimentary.

As far as the Law and Punishments being equally applied to certain Professions, like the Wealthy,Famous and the Powerfull and if it does in your area, let me know and I'll move there right away.

 

[FastEddy]

Dead on, scoutfinch.  And why I posted my comments a page or two ago also; the military is not above the law, nor should it be.  Nor should it even give the appearance of being so; I truly believe idiotic comments about veterans starting an insurrection or assassinating people serve no real purpose and can in fact do us harm.

Now "D. Krystal" posting is idiotic, it seems you are the only one and continuing to attaching, Veterans starting a Insurrection and Assassinating people to his post.

I clearly expressed that he might have worded his support and feelings slightly different, but we knew what he meant and where he was coming from.

My objection was that he was ridiculed un-necessarily (by you) and you've just done it again.

However I applaud you for your Righteous and Lawbiding stance in this matter. I'm sure it is well received at the Black Watch RHR Armoury.