Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

[tsokman]

Yes I finished the recruiting process just waiting for a decision for LCIS Tech.  Actually it was recommended to me that I try to connect with LCIS Techs on Army forums by my recruiter as hes not an LCIS Tech specialist. So apparently there are no such pre-course testing for LCIS Tech like there are for other trades.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Yes I finished the recruiting process just waiting for a decision for LCIS Tech.  Actually it was recommended to me that I try to connect with LCIS Techs on Army forums by my recruiter as hes not an LCIS Tech specialist. So apparently there are no such pre-course testing for LCIS Tech like there are for other trades.

You are getting dangerously close to being muted.

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[Dean22]

And I'm pretty damned skeptical about them being thought-through for the reserves. I'm hoping that somebody has a coherent plan for how it's going to work for the reserves, rather than just implement it as some sort of afterthought.

With things not panning out to plan with reg force and their amalgamation timeline, I'd be pleasantly surprised if the reservist school's on top of things, is ready to implement first, and things go relatively smoothly.

If that means the only reservist trade is going to be sig op, so be it. But expecting a reservist lineman to effectively become a 3's-qualified sig op over the course of two 2-month courses before getting any substantial lineman training along the lines of the current trade course series seems pretty ridiculous to me. And that's the impression that I'm getting.

In our Reserve comm unit this is the last year to get your Mod 1 and Mod 2 under the old system otherwise it will be the new course next year.

Course material for the new course is currently being written in our unit I have been told.

 

[Cooldevil789]

Hello,

I am currently in Gagetown and sitting on a holding troop. I am currently looking at a Occupational transfer to Sigs(Lineman) I have a few years background experience in the CATV working as a Cable Technician for Rogers Cable. I am currently unhappy with my original choice due to ignorance on my part. I was unaware the duties my current postion would entail.

I am looking for knowledgeable advice on how one would go about doing a proper occupational transfer and the steps needed to do so.

Feel free to send me a PM with the information, or reply here.

 

[MikeL]

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/board,44.0.html

 

[LineJumper]

Hello,

I am currently in Gagetown and sitting on a holding troop. I am currently looking at a Occupational transfer to Sigs(Lineman) I have a few years background experience in the CATV working as a Cable Technician for Rogers Cable. I am currently unhappy with my original choice due to ignorance on my part. I was unaware the duties my current postion would entail.

I am looking for knowledgeable advice on how one would go about doing a proper occupational transfer and the steps needed to do so.

Feel free to send me a PM with the information, or reply here.

You best be quick about it, lest the 'Amalgamutt' catch you, then no choice for occupation.

 

[Swingline1984]

You best be quick about it, lest the 'Amalgamutt' catch you, then no choice for occupation.

Last I heard that was one of the issues they were still trying to sort out due to the whole "qualified to the same level in 18 mos" deal.

 

[LineJumper]

Bah! It's easy to train these fresh young minds to find themselves and the betterment of the Signals world in 18 months. The operator attrition will never figure in to ensuring the 'best' go into their respective discipline.

 

[tsokman]

And what would the terms of service be under ACISS if you're being enrolled with the old system..would it be specifically for LCIS Tech or for Signals Branch in general...

 

[LineJumper]

At this time it doesn't seem ACISS is ready to go. Once the terms have been identified and outlined, I'm sure a new thread on this subject will surface. Right now it's still being worked out, so if you are entering the training system in the near future you will likely get to hear more of the scuttlebutt while at the school.

 

[tsokman]

You best be quick about it, lest the 'Amalgamutt' catch you, then no choice for occupation.

You mean even if you score very high on POET you could still end up as a Sig Op...

 

[LineJumper]

Yep, Sig Op is an exceptionally high attrition rate trade (no idea why). That is the primary misgiving viewed by the other trades affected. Line stays green due to the high number of CA trades remustering into it, so getting fresh off the street troops doesn't seem very likely. Due to the entry requirments for LCIS and the need for that trade, I'm sure those with the high end apptitude will find their way into POET and such.

 

[Brasidas]

.... Due to the entry requirments for LCIS and the need for that trade, I'm sure those with the high end apptitude will find their way into POET and such.

Except for the fact that those who would otherwise be interested in LCIS will be taking a long, hard look at ATIS before agreeing to be trained as a Sig Op on their 3's, with lip service to technician training, before they even have the possibility of getting some decent OJT in their field of interest.

LCIS may not be getting a great deal out of the cookiecutter either.

 

[PuckChaser]

The whole amalgamation is a stupid idea, designed to halfheartedly address the manning issues with LCIS and SigOp. I'm sure there are far better and easier ways to make both of those trades attractive. Just as much as someone doesn't want to be pushed into a SubOcc, I don't want to have to lead troops that don't want to be there. This is going to further divide the C&E trades along party lines, instead of unifying them. Oh well, I bet someone got a promotion for this in Ottawa.

 

[LineJumper]

Agreed, look at CFJSR. A good thing for all involved minus 1 Line Troop.

 

[tsokman]

What are the chances of transferring after completing POET to another POET based trade if one doesn't get LCIS Tech...

 

[PuckChaser]

Ok, for the last time, I'll offer this advice: Wait until you're done your basic. You aren't in yet, you won't be in anytime soon, or even close to CFSCE to start working about the Amalgamation.

I really hope you don't get posted to my unit.

 

[tsokman]

Why should I not worry and be forced to be in a trade I don't want to be in for 5 years of my initial armed forces career.....I can hear the toilet flushing.....I hope I get posted to combat arms support..Is that your unit...

 

[MikeL]

You are alienating yourself on this site you do know that right?

If you get recruited in as a LCIS Tech, you may get to stay, but guess what no one can give you hard info as to what is going to happen as none of us know, an ACISS hasn't happened yet.  If you are so worried about it, go ATIS Tech(Air Force).  What is Combat Arms support? You mean you want to be posted to a Combat Arms unit?  Also, I second PuckChaser, I hope you don't end up getting posted to my unit.

 

[Occam]

If you are so worried about it, go ATIS Tech(Air Force). 

Ah, no....sorry, they're closed.  Too many people...wayyyyy too many people.  They're stacking them like firewood.  They had a spot but it filled this morning...yeah, that's it.