Asterix is costing $691M for the capability over the 6 or so years, and it's just a lease so we don't own it. It does a good job at what it does but it does cost a lot more with less capability than JSS will deliver.
the quality of davie’s product is unknown to me, though they are overselling it. The GoC cannot insure any employee of Federal to be In any potential war zone.
I don’t know. That would be odd for a Government to release, but you could ask under a FOI Might be quashed. Like I said, we only know full life costs.
Won't really know the proper cost until we get the ship. Are you including the Task Group stores, fuel and ammo? Are you sailing at full load or just with fuel and dry stores (lighter ship cheaper fuel costs). What about an airdet? JSS has way more variables than a frigate does.
If we did, we could stand up a Canadian RFA and also use it as a way for Canadian sailors to get their seatime for Ocean Navigator tickets and have slots for Merchant Marine Cadets as well.
I agree. Once the JSS program is complete, the government won’t give that a second look. Hopefully the government realize that icebreaking opvs on the west coast are absolutely ridiculous.
Not really the CCG kept two ice breaker buoy tenders on the West Coast, of similar ice rating. In the summer months one would head north and do the Western Arctic. Likely one of the West Coast AOPs will do the same.
Is that true? I know the Navy has gone on and on about how it's not supposed to be a warship, but I've read nothing suggesting it can't carry anything other than marine fuels. In fact, I recently read the opposite! Is this something that's known in some circles, but not widely publicised?
I’m new here and i know I’ve beaten this issue to frickin’ death. It can do dry stores. If you have something to add other than that, please add it.
I don't have anything to add, other than what's publicly available. I know I've scoured some PDFs that many in the public won't read, but again, nothing that isn't publicly available with some searching. That's why I was asking. I was wondering if there was some story, where it was found to be not suitable for HADR, or carrying ammunition, etc. (ex. they were loading a vehicle, say, and the crane wasn't up to spec and collapsed).
It is very useful for the time being. It is limited to how far or in it can go in or near a potential war zone So even in that it limits where Canadian interests lie. I don’t believe Asterix will last the JSS program because manning the ships with Canadian sailors is unlikely because thwy’ll be FAM’d on Asterix may lapse on Asterix as they are sailing on a JSS. And federal fleet is apparently quite expensive.
Having our AOR’s going directly into harms way is an uniquely RCN feature which is dumb dumb dumb! We should have 6 RFA types and if we want to properly do HRDR then build a small flat deck that can carry Chinooks and and launch landing craft from a well deck. Anything short of this is farting in the wind.
This is Canada. We are always farting into the wind. I’m overjoyed that we haven't cancelled the JSS half way through.
