Alberta Schools; pick your own gender and bathroom

[Bzzliteyr]

We sure have.  I love the idea of gender neutral bathrooms at work. I hate when you have 400 men with access to 6 toilets and 8 women with access to 6 toilets.  It's time we end women's monopoly on coveted washroom space.

You got me there 100%  Medical staff and cooks should have their own segregated facilities for infection control, segregated being the key word though.

Oh, now you're promoting SEGREGATION?!?!?

Wait till the media sees this.

 

[mariomike]

This four-page discussion does not seem to be limited to Alberta schools, so this is how they do it in New York City,
http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/html/coverage/be-you-nyc.shtml

 

[mariomike]

July 29, 2016

Meanwhile, back in Alberta,

Alberta bouncer decries ‘hateful bigot’ label in birth gender bathroom controversy
http://globalnews.ca/news/2856673/alberta-bouncer-decries-hateful-bigot-label-in-birth-gender-bathroom-controversy/
Peter Smith claims Rising, a transgender female, identified herself as male when she entered the Corona Tavern in Medicine Hat. But Rising said that’s not the case.

 

[Jarnhamar]

July 29, 2016

Meanwhile, back in Alberta,

Alberta bouncer decries ‘hateful bigot’ label in birth gender bathroom controversy
http://globalnews.ca/news/2856673/alberta-bouncer-decries-hateful-bigot-label-in-birth-gender-bathroom-controversy/
Peter Smith claims Rising, a transgender female, identified herself as male when she entered the Corona Tavern in Medicine Hat. But Rising said that’s not the case.

Rising said she didn’t realize the situation would escalate to such a “big thing” and said she’s learning from the experience

I love when people get butts hurt and post about it on social media then act surprised when people go berserk.

'I didn't want anyone to make a big deal about it.  I'm surprised.  I didn't know this would happen etc.. '
Uh huh

 

[mariomike]

Reading about the student at UConn who got ran over the other day and came across this story. It seems that unisex washrooms may make it easier for some ( alleged ) perversion,

Man Videotaped Women in Bathroom Stalls at UConn Law Library: Police
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Man-Accused-of-Videotaping-Women-in-Bathroom-Stalls-at-UConn-Library-397611581.html
"...a unisex bathroom..."

 

[Brad Sallows]

Predictable and predicted.  Sex offenders don't just jump up one day and start violating corpses - they progress from level to level as each thrill wears out.  Finding excuses to hang out around girls and/or women in washrooms is just a step on that journey.

The safety of girls and women should never be traded off for a tiny increment of self-esteem for the gender fluid.  Sharing a washroom with "others" is not a sacrifice; sharing a washroom with predators is.

 

[mariomike]

There are women-only passenger cars,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car

Makes no sense to me that they should be forced to give up their ladies rooms.

 

[Flavus101]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-resident-denied-haircut-at-barbershop-because-of-gender-1.3814318

Not directly related, yet I found it relevant to the discussion.

I view this in the way of, you wouldn't ask a cabinet maker to build you a pool table even though they are both expert woodworkers.

A barber who takes pride in their work and does not feel comfortable in their ability to cut a woman's hair and have an end result that meets the barbers expectations of himself is a barber I would go to. It is the same as if a man walked into a salon and the hairstylists there did not feel that they could cut the man's hair to the quality that they deem necessary.

Which as a side story actually happened to one of my friends in Ottawa. He was looking to get his haircut and we happened to be walking by a salon (doing a course up there and didn't really know the area so stopped at the first place that could cut hair  ;D). He walked in and asked if they could do what he wanted and they said that they weren't really comfortable doing it and pointed us in the direction of a barber shop a few blocks over.

 

[mariomike]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-resident-denied-haircut-at-barbershop-because-of-gender-1.3814318

Looks like all she needs is a basic haircut.

"Ottawa barbershop won't cut woman's hair"
http://army.ca/forums/threads/95355.0

 

[quadrapiper]

Which as a side story actually happened to one of my friends in Ottawa. He was looking to get his haircut and we happened to be walking by a salon (doing a course up there and didn't really know the area so stopped at the first place that could cut hair  ;D). He walked in and asked if they could do what he wanted and they said that they weren't really comfortable doing it and pointed us in the direction of a barber shop a few blocks over.

Which speaks to a distinction in tools, training, and experience relevant to two different sets of styles: the woman in question, though, has a "barbershop" haircut, not a salon one. #x on the sides, tidy up on top, gel it. This is, to run with your analogy, a cabinet maker who usually does kitchen work being asked to build the same thing for a bathroom.

If I had Fabio-esque locks and wanted the dye/heat/etc. treatment, I wouldn't bother a barber: would be much more inclined to go to a salon.

 

[Lightguns]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-resident-denied-haircut-at-barbershop-because-of-gender-1.3814318

Not directly related, yet I found it relevant to the discussion.

I view this in the way of, you wouldn't ask a cabinet maker to build you a pool table even though they are both expert woodworkers.

A barber who takes pride in their work and does not feel comfortable in their ability to cut a woman's hair and have an end result that meets the barbers expectations of himself is a barber I would go to. It is the same as if a man walked into a salon and the hairstylists there did not feel that they could cut the man's hair to the quality that they deem necessary.

Which as a side story actually happened to one of my friends in Ottawa. He was looking to get his haircut and we happened to be walking by a salon (doing a course up there and didn't really know the area so stopped at the first place that could cut hair  ;D). He walked in and asked if they could do what he wanted and they said that they weren't really comfortable doing it and pointed us in the direction of a barber shop a few blocks over.

I always enjoy how this generation is so good at setting up the complaint in the media:

"[They said] we don't do women's haircuts," she said. "I did get emotional because it does bring up past experiences that I've had."

It's like there is a SJW school of offence they all graduate from. 

 

[Jarnhamar]

I always enjoy how this generation is so good at setting up the complaint in the media:

"[They said] we don't do women's haircuts," she said. "I did get emotional because it does bring up past experiences that I've had."

Followed by "How did he even know I'm a woman?". 

Maybe it's because I cut my own hair but a human rights tribunal for a haircut seems like over kill to me. Shouldn't she just try to character assassinate this guy on Facebook and get his store windows smashed out and be done with it?


Laura Southern took about 10 minutes to get her gender legally changed to male.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpZSefYvwM
I had no idea it was that easy. Maybe school nurses in Alberta could be delegated the authority to sign off on a students gender when they show up for school.

 

[mariomike]

Looks like all she needs is a basic haircut.

I'm sure the place I go could have accommodated her.

 

[Jarnhamar]

#hairprivilage
The struggle is real.