Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
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Having recently done the Aircrew Selection and successfully passed, I can tell you that there is only really a handful of tests that you can actually truly prepare for by studying, which have been intensively covered on these forums. Each individual test is placed in a category, and you have to essentially pass each category to qualify for pilot. I forget how many different categories there are (I think 7 or 8?). The only thing I honestly wish I would have done is stress about it less, especially while there. Go there with a clear mindset, relax, and enjoy the experience. While the tests were definitely stressful, it was a fun and memorable experience. Good luck!
The key word to remember in this thread is "aptitude". The selection is based upon your own personal traits and how they match the traits which have been statistically proven to be shared by all successful pilots. It's really not something you are able to practice. We'll not quite true but the tests are designed to show innate performance, not learned performance so "studying" is of marginal help.
Having said all of the though, work hard and do whatever it takes so you feel prepared. If you are successful, then you've got a lot of work ahead to prove yourself yet, but you have all the right components to succeed.
If you are unsuccessful, it just means that you lack one or some of the characteristics that you'd need as a pilot. By no means is that a slam on you personally. You wouldn't have been accepted for selection if you weren't bright or talented. It just means you are better suited for being great at something else. Pilot training is long and challenging. Working as a pilot in the RCAF is even more so. If anyone gets in this situation, ask yourself the hard questions of why you wanted to be a pilot in the first place. Not meeting the selection might have just saved you years of hard work with no reward at the end. Instead you can focus on a career (inside or outside the military), where your skills are best suited.
Best of luck, and may the number of take-offs always equal the number of landings in your logbook.
Having said all of the though, work hard and do whatever it takes so you feel prepared. If you are successful, then you've got a lot of work ahead to prove yourself yet, but you have all the right components to succeed.
If you are unsuccessful, it just means that you lack one or some of the characteristics that you'd need as a pilot. By no means is that a slam on you personally. You wouldn't have been accepted for selection if you weren't bright or talented. It just means you are better suited for being great at something else. Pilot training is long and challenging. Working as a pilot in the RCAF is even more so. If anyone gets in this situation, ask yourself the hard questions of why you wanted to be a pilot in the first place. Not meeting the selection might have just saved you years of hard work with no reward at the end. Instead you can focus on a career (inside or outside the military), where your skills are best suited.
Best of luck, and may the number of take-offs always equal the number of landings in your logbook.
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Or if you are only there for a ride up. Ive always enjoyed a landing under nylon ( not army nylon....those landings suck....a lot haha)
But I'm hoping to be looking after the other type of landing in the future. Heading for aircrew selection in 2 weeks for UTPNCM. Pretty nervous but excited at the same time.
But I'm hoping to be looking after the other type of landing in the future. Heading for aircrew selection in 2 weeks for UTPNCM. Pretty nervous but excited at the same time.
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sonic said:Is anyone else here waiting for ACS call too ? Wondering what people are doing to prepare
Most are studying the Student Prep package. Someone mentioned that using Lumosity can also be of help.
Study Guide - http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/en/cf-aircrew-selection-centre/candidate-guide.page
Lumosity - http://www.lumosity.com/
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For those who passed ACS - wondering how your time scores were on this DST & fuel consumption practice site if you ever used it. http://www.speeddistancetime.info/
e.g. I'm averaging ~20 seconds each for the DST questions and ~30 seconds for fuel consumption ones.
Booked for 27-29 July 2015.
e.g. I'm averaging ~20 seconds each for the DST questions and ~30 seconds for fuel consumption ones.
Booked for 27-29 July 2015.
French will follow.
Hi,
I found real interesting information in the forum, but still have questions or did not find information about how to be prepared for the pilot aircrew selection. Most of what I read is that you cannot really prepare yourself for these tests except to be ready rested and try to follow instructions as precise as you can. Although would it be good to use a flight simulator in order to be more familiar with flight instrument and flight techniques? If so which simulator could be a good one to begin with?
Bonjour,
J'ai trouvé beaucoup d'information sur le forum, mais j'ai encore quelques questions ou simplement pas trouvé les réponses sur comment être prêt pour la sélection du personnel navigant de Trenton (pilote). La plupart des commentaires j'ai trouvés dit qu'il n'y pas vraiment de façon d'être prêt si ce n'est que d'être prêt psychologiquement et de suivre les instructions à la lettre. Cependant, serait-il bon d'utiliser un simulateur de vol pour se familiariser aux instruments et techniques de vol? Si oui, quel serait le meilleur simulateur pour commencer?
Thank you, Merci
Raphael
Hi,
I found real interesting information in the forum, but still have questions or did not find information about how to be prepared for the pilot aircrew selection. Most of what I read is that you cannot really prepare yourself for these tests except to be ready rested and try to follow instructions as precise as you can. Although would it be good to use a flight simulator in order to be more familiar with flight instrument and flight techniques? If so which simulator could be a good one to begin with?
Bonjour,
J'ai trouvé beaucoup d'information sur le forum, mais j'ai encore quelques questions ou simplement pas trouvé les réponses sur comment être prêt pour la sélection du personnel navigant de Trenton (pilote). La plupart des commentaires j'ai trouvés dit qu'il n'y pas vraiment de façon d'être prêt si ce n'est que d'être prêt psychologiquement et de suivre les instructions à la lettre. Cependant, serait-il bon d'utiliser un simulateur de vol pour se familiariser aux instruments et techniques de vol? Si oui, quel serait le meilleur simulateur pour commencer?
Thank you, Merci
Raphael
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Study the Candidate Guide. Then study it again. If you get bored, study it again!!!
http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/en/cf-aircrew-selection-centre/candidate-guide.page
Some prior applicants have also recommended that you use Lumosity and it helps.
http://www.lumosity.com/
I don't think "flight sims" are going to be of much use but I could be wrong.
http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/en/cf-aircrew-selection-centre/candidate-guide.page
Some prior applicants have also recommended that you use Lumosity and it helps.
http://www.lumosity.com/
I don't think "flight sims" are going to be of much use but I could be wrong.
So after missing the ROTP selection cutoff back in 2012, I have graduated from Univeristy and am now going through the process again for Pilot. I was informed I did not have to redo my CFAT or an interview.
Ive gone through the paces so far, and just wrote my TSD today and was informed that I "passed" both and am competitive. He said that I will be getting an email closer to pilot selection for me to come in to do my medical before ACS.
Could anyone shine some light on this? I would think I should be getting my medical done ASAP as sending everything to Ottawa to get rubber stamped can take ages.
Ive gone through the paces so far, and just wrote my TSD today and was informed that I "passed" both and am competitive. He said that I will be getting an email closer to pilot selection for me to come in to do my medical before ACS.
Could anyone shine some light on this? I would think I should be getting my medical done ASAP as sending everything to Ottawa to get rubber stamped can take ages.
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Daishi said:
Your CFRC has little to no control over the next step, which for you, will be the medical. You will be selected for further processing in competition with everyone else who is applying for DEO Pilot and this part, is managed by another office and not your CFRC.
Also, the medical is only valid for 12 months, so you will probably be starting from scratch, if or when you get called.
Subasioglu said:
I recently passed ACS for both Pilot and ACSO a few weeks ago and scored above average for the former and a bit higher for the latter. I have been merit listed for ACSO but my medical file for pilot is still being processed. For the above link I took each test twice and averaged ~6s and ~9s respectively for the DST and fuel. Quite a few of the tests at ACS will require you to be good at doing mental calculations accurately and under considerable time pressure. I have a quantitative background (economics and mathematics) and indeed the numerical/mathematical portion of the test was my strongest. However, many of tests test other qualities such as ability to multi-task, spatial abilities, motor skills etc and many of them are things that you either got or you don't (innate), so just try your best. If there is one tip I can give however, it is to carefully read the instructions for each test. I almost failed a section because I did not fully understand the instructions and only realized my mistake about 1/3 through that test.
Entropic said:
Congrats!
Your scores for the DST and fuel questions caught my attention. I do not think those results are possible; just reading the question and guessing the answer takes at least 7-8s for DST, and a few secs more for fuel consumption. Could be a typo. I averaged 10s for DST and about 18-20s for fuel consumption, background in aero eng.
Also, I was recently contacted for ACS testing for Fall 2015. Have read all the material in regards to this process, but, if it is OK to share such info, would like to know how the testing was broken down during the first 2 days at CFB Trenton from someone who recently went there for ACS.
Thanks
aero_dude said:
I just took another 2 of the DST, take it as you will
http://imgur.com/a/hl5ox
In any case, being fast at mental math only helps on a few of the tests. ACS tests other mental qualities so the important thing is to be proficient at all of them since failing one section means you fail the entire thing (I just barely passed the minimum in a couple sections, one because I didn't follow the instructions properly at first, and the other I just did not have a good natural aptitude for it)
Hmmm I dont think I am allowed to tell you the order of the tests and in any case I dont really remember. I will just reiterate to really pay attention to the instructions for each test and follow them to the tee.
motox701 said:
Not him but I was notified by phone call by my file manager. Keep in contact with your file manager! Sometimes your file just gets lost in the stacks
