6 Jan 2020 U.S. Events (Split from A Deeply Fractured US)

[Remius]

And Forbes is warning against hiring former Trump communications types.

Forbes editor warns companies that might hire Trump press secretaries: Magazine will assume everything they say is a lie

The editor of Forbes magazine has urged companies not to hire Sean Spicer, Kayleigh McEnany, Stephanie Grisham, or Sarah Sanders.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[RangerRay]

...the media plan is to revile pretty much anyone to the right of Mitt Romney.

Romney is no moderate. He just has his feet firmly planted in reality and refuses to lie to his constituents. You know, that integrity thing. It used to be a very low bar for our leaders to maintain. Now apparently he gets lumped in with the progressives because he dares call a spade a spade publicly.

 

[Jarnhamar]

And Forbes is warning against hiring former Trump communications types.

Forbes editor warns companies that might hire Trump press secretaries: Magazine will assume everything they say is a lie

The editor of Forbes magazine has urged companies not to hire Sean Spicer, Kayleigh McEnany, Stephanie Grisham, or Sarah Sanders.

www.businessinsider.com

• Lane wrote that there should be a "truth reckoning" after Wednesday's siege at the US Capitol.
• As part of that reckoning, Lane said there should be "repercussions" for those who had lied on behalf of Trump.

But why stop there? Why not a reckoning and "repercussions" against anyone who supported Trump, or voted for him?

 

[Ralph]

But why stop there? Why not a reckoning and "repercussions" against anyone who supported Trump, or voted for him?

Probably because the Democrats, in a general sense, have far more common sense than the Trump Republicans? That's why when his group bleated "lock her up" and all the other garbage, for four years, while in power, nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating him to death.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Probably because the Democrats, in a general sense, have far more common sense than the Trump Republicans?

That's quite the generalization.

nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating him to death.

What about the cops who are targeted and killed at BLM and other anti-police protests. Republican shooters one and all?

 

[Blackadder1916]

But why stop there? Why not a reckoning and "repercussions" against anyone who supported Trump, or voted for him?

Probably because the Democrats, in a general sense, have far more common sense than the Trump Republicans? That's why when his group bleated "lock her up" and all the other garbage, for four years, while in power, nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating him to death.

To begin with, the article that is being mentioned is referring to a piece written by the editor of (and in) Forbes Magazine not the Democratic Party nor any representative of the Dems or any politically affiliated organization. And instead of looking at another reporter's analysis of that piece, how about reading the piece (editorial?) for ourselves. The last paragraph probably explains their position quite well.

A Truth Reckoning: Why We’re Holding Those Who Lied For Trump Accountable

As American democracy rebounds, we need to return to a standard of truth when it comes to how the government communicates with the governed.

www.forbes.com

This isn’t cancel culture, which is a societal blight. (There’s surely a nice living for each of these press secretaries on the true-believer circuit.) Nor is this politically motivated, as Forbes’ pro-entrepreneur, pro-growth worldview has generally placed it in the right-of-center camp over the past century — this standard needs to apply to liars from either party. It’s just a realization that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, in a thriving democracy, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Our national reset starts there.

 

[Remius]

That's quite the generalization.


What about the cops who are targeted and killed at BLM and other anti-police protests. Republican shooters one and all?

Did any Democrat leader incite the BLM crowd? Maybe having BLM rallies before getting them riled up? Have they been spewing lies about what BLM was protesting? Are BLM protesting election results? Why are we even bringing BLM into this? It seems that people sympathetic to what Trump insurectionists did keep pointing to BLM. One has nothing to do with the other. Other than being similar in the sense that violence was used.

the aim, and the results desired are completely different.

 

[Remius]

FBI internal memo warns of plans for armed protests in all 50 state capitals around day of Biden inauguration

An internal FBI memo is warning of plans for armed protests in all 50 state capital cities ahead of President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, Fox News has learned.

www.foxnews.com

Looks like more insurrections are being planned.

 

[Jarnhamar]

To begin with, the article that is being mentioned is referring to a piece written by the editor of (and in) Forbes Magazine not the Democratic Party nor any representative of the Dems or any politically affiliated organization.

I know, I'm just reflecting on setting the stage for an anti-trump witch hunt.

AOC asks for record of Trump ‘sycophants’ who were complicit in his administration
The congresswoman’s comments come as Democratic nominee Joe Biden is poised to take the White House from Donald Trump.
New York representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has asked if anyone is keeping a record of “Trump sycophants” who were “complicit” in his administration, predicting that those who were would try cover up their tracks after Donald Trump leaves office.
“Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future?” Ms Ocasio-Cortez tweeted on Friday afternoon. “I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future”.

AOC asks for record of Trump 'sycophants' who were 'complicit' in his administration

The congresswoman’s comments come as Democratic nominee Joe Biden is poised to take the White House from Donald Trump.

www.independent.co.uk

Why are we even bringing BLM into this?

Because the comment I'm responding to stated nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating them in 4 years. I'm questioning the part about a cop being killed "by the other side in 4 years", unless we're talking specifically about the method.

 

[Brad Sallows]

what are those unresolved grievances though? Judging by all the confederate flags it seems some of those are outstanding from the civil war.

Ask them, or read what has been written. It's more productive than constructing straw-men.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

McCarthyism at its finest. Just flipped 180°. Can't wait for the show trials and accelerated headlong hurtle into far left socialism to start. Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Probably because the Democrats, in a general sense, have far more common sense than the Trump Republicans? That's why when his group bleated "lock her up" and all the other garbage, for four years, while in power, nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating him to death.

The administration and Republicans in Congress had the common sense to not actually press to have Hillary Clinton tried. Conversely, those common-sense Democrats are proposing impeachment.

 

[Remius]

Ask them, or read what has been written. It's more productive than constructing straw-men.

I am asking. Seems no one really has a straight answer.

 

[Remius]

The administration and Republicans in Congress had the common sense to not actually press to have Hillary Clinton tried. Conversely, those common-sense Democrats are proposing impeachment.

If they had any evidence they would have tried her. But just like all the court cases about voter fraud, no evidence no support it. But impeachment is not the same thing. The burden of proof is somewhat lower.

 

[Ralph]

You think her emails is the same as telling people the election was stolen?

I know, I'm just reflecting on setting the stage for an anti-trump witch hunt.

AOC asks for record of Trump ‘sycophants’ who were complicit in his administration
The congresswoman’s comments come as Democratic nominee Joe Biden is poised to take the White House from Donald Trump.
New York representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has asked if anyone is keeping a record of “Trump sycophants” who were “complicit” in his administration, predicting that those who were would try cover up their tracks after Donald Trump leaves office.
“Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future?” Ms Ocasio-Cortez tweeted on Friday afternoon. “I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future”.

AOC asks for record of Trump 'sycophants' who were 'complicit' in his administration

The congresswoman’s comments come as Democratic nominee Joe Biden is poised to take the White House from Donald Trump.

www.independent.co.uk

Because the comment I'm responding to stated nobody on the other side killed a cop by beating them in 4 years. I'm questioning the part about a cop being killed "by the other side in 4 years", unless we're talking specifically about the method.

Not what I said. The 2016 shooter in Dallas (I assume that's what you're talking about?) did not kill those cops based on politicians telling him for months that the election was stolen and that he should take the power back. As I've seen posted elsewhere, this group of Trump apologists are like the family members telling the abused wife that she'll tear the family apart if she turns her husband in. I look forward to these show trials you seem to think will occur. For the life of me, I can't fathom why a bunch of Canadians who have lived their entire lives under the bosom of socialized healthcare and free and unbiased elections are so intent on protecting the image and actions of these Trumpers.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a "60 Minutes" interview that aired Sunday night that one of the motivating factors for some in the new effort to impeach President Trump and remove him from office is to eliminate any chance he has of being elected again.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I am asking. Seems no one really has a straight answer.

Easy.
Some people are full on racists.
Some people are enamored in this idea of the rebellious south.
Some people do it for the shock factor because they know it upsets other people and pisses them off.

People do weird shit. I remember reading about Jewish kids getting caught spray painting swastikas for graffiti, there's also pictures on google of black Americans with swastikas.


Someone here edited their post now but the context (as I under stood it) sounded like they were describing the average trump supporter as cutting their nails on their 11 toes. So I'm guessing some kind of inbreeding? Stuff like that contributed to him being elected in 2016.

 

[Jarnhamar]

did not kill those cops based on politicians telling him for months that the election was stolen and that he should take the power back.

If you want to get right down to it the identity of the guy who assaulted the cop who died isn't know. He could be a Trump supporter, he could be a democrat who wanted to make Trump supporters look bad (I'd say pretty unlikely) or he could have been one of those growing number of Americans who go to these protests just to cause damage and chaos. Call them anarchists.
You're presuming his motives.

I look forward to these show trials you seem to think will occur.

Why on earth would you look forward to that? People harassed online or wrongly accused of stuff can and do hurt themselves or worse.

For the life of me, I can't fathom why a bunch of Canadians who have lived their entire lives under the bosom of socialized healthcare and free and unbiased elections are so intent on protecting the image and actions of these Trumpers.

I'd chalk it up to free thought.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

what are those unresolved grievances though? Judging by all the confederate flags it seems some of those are outstanding from the civil war.

Many of these people are the American victims of globalization. They were unemployed or underemployed and did not see a future for themselves or their kids. They also contributed manpower greatly to the various wars that the US has been involved in, plus they see everything from their freedom of speech, freedom of religion and other rights being eroded. I know quite a few Americans who have told me that the Obama years just about destroyed their businesses and they have seen a noticeable effect in their economy and hope to have enough money to survive Biden tenure.

 

[Ralph]

I'd chalk it up to free thought.

And that's it right there. Opinion based on YouTube, Newsmax, and bad dreams dressed up as "free thought". Everything wrong is the fault of those not in power. All hail the Esteemed Leader who can do no wrong. He brought coal mining back (he didn't). He replaced Obamacare with something better (he did nothing). The middle class was saved (they're paying more in taxes). COVID disappeared (it didn't). He won the election (he didn't, and if James Mattis says he didn't, I'm going to believe him, because I'm a soldier who knows a good leader). Maybe he'll see all the Trumper posts on Army.ca and issue some more Presidential Medals of Freedom. Good luck, y'all!