Walts, posers & wannabes (merged)
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daftandbarmy
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FAL said:
Stolen Valour legislation is in place in a few countries but seems focused on nailing n those wearing decorations/medals to which they are not entitled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005
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The quality of the video isn't good (cell phone I'm guessing) but I take it the offecnce was th Walt was wearing a Ranger Tab and/or Ranger Scroll. I guess one could make an argument that they are "decorations" in that they are akin to hazard badges. I think he also mentioned the WALT had a CIB and EOD on the uniform. Again under Stolen Valor would these qualify?
Either way poor showing by the cops at least based on what we've seen. Mind the Ranger in the video does come across as very aggressive (no surprise) and obviously upset, which suggests that it's not his first encounter with this WALT. I'd be interested in the full storyhere.
Either way poor showing by the cops at least based on what we've seen. Mind the Ranger in the video does come across as very aggressive (no surprise) and obviously upset, which suggests that it's not his first encounter with this WALT. I'd be interested in the full storyhere.
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FAL said:
In Canada it's an offence to impersonate an officer. This took place in America, and he was posing as an NCO.
George Wallace
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Hatchet Man said:
In Canada it is an offence to wear the uniform with rank, Branch, Unit, or any other identifying badges, no matter the rank on the uniform, if you are not entitled to wear the uniform.
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Huh, dunno why I thought it was just officers.....not enough coffee.
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Conz said:
LOL
That only makes him a moron with NO fashion sense.
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KerryBlue said:The walt has on his "uniform" a CIB, EOD, 101st Airborne Screaming Eagle and the Ranger Tab..... :
It is within the realm of possibility some grunt in the 101st did Ranger School, EOD, and deployed to Iraq long enough to earn his CIB. Something tells me though that while there may be a few guys wandering around Fort Campbell dressed like that, this guy was never one of them. 8)
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It's not worth the time to even discuss it. Let it go.
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KerryBlue said:
No you can't. They are separate units.
For Reference
Ranger Tab- Means you did the course
http://www.flyingtigerssurplus.com/product-images/lg/BP023_lg.jpg
Ranger Scroll-You are a Ranger and in the Regiment
http://www.marauder.org/ptch_13.gif
Edit found a high quality version on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HC0DGMfrnw
It would appear he is wearing the qualification tab and not the scroll. However he is wearing E8 Rank (equivalent to a Canadian MWO), so the likelihood of a real E8 walking outside drinking coffee with no headdress.....yeah. no.
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recceguy said:
That's what the whole walt thread is about though, getting into the details to spot the less than obvious fakes. Not everyone is as blatant as the Hines twins. 8)
This story "popped up" on Facebook. While not classic waltism, it adds a different perspective. The story is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act.
Faux major sought time off for girlfriend
LOUISE DICKSON / TIMES COLONIST
MAY 3, 2014 10:02 PM
Victoria provincial court heard details of a case in which a Victoria man pretended to be a Canadian army major to get his girlfriend a little time off work. The man has been placed on 12 months probation.
A Victoria man who pretended to be a Canadian army major to get his girlfriend a little time off work has been placed on 12 months probation.
Victoria provincial court heard the details of 53-year-old Allen Philbrook’s scheme to dress up in uniform and deliver a letter, purportedly signed by Gen. Walt Natynczyk, then Canada’s Chief of Defence Staff, to the supervisor at the Oak Bay Kiwanis Health Centre on Sept. 27, 2012.
Crown prosecutor Susan Rupertus told the court that Philbrook’s girlfriend, Heather Scott, worked there as a licensed practical nurse and had asked her supervisor for time off because Philbrook was sick in hospital in Vancouver and doctors recommended she be at his bedside.
According to Rupertus, Scott’s supervisor, Penny Donaldson, was skeptical and told Scott she would need a doctor’s note.
Scott took time off. When she returned to work, Donaldson asked for the doctor’s note. Scott replied that the note would be coming from the military shortly, said Rupertus. “After that, Mr. Philbrook, in full military uniform, arrived at the centre and found Ms. Donaldson, who was in a meeting with some colleagues. One of her colleagues immediately noticed the uniform was 1960s vintage,” Rupertus said.
“He identified himself as Maj. Philbrook and handed over a letter written by Gen. Walt Natynczyk of the Canadian Armed Forces. He thanked her for giving Ms. Scott the time off and left.”
Donaldson looked at the letter and was immediately suspicious because it was full of mistakes, Rupertus said. “It did not have the look of a general’s letter.”
The supervisor questioned Scott and the investigation continued from there.
Philbrook pleaded guilty to forgery. A second charge of wearing a uniform of the Canadian Forces without lawful authority was stayed by the Crown.
Defence lawyer Roland Kuczma told the court that Philbrook is a good man who made a terrible mistake that did not benefit him personally. “It’s clearly unsophisticated, but it was an attempt to help Ms. Scott,” Kuczma said. “It’s very unfortunate that shortly after, their relationship broke up.”
Kuczma said that Philbrook was in hospital with a heart condition and doctors thought having his partner there would help stabilize him. “[Scott] was going to go over to help out, but very quickly, everything was OK,” Kuczma said. “She had asked for the time off, and they gave it to her. She went to Tofino for a few days. When she went back to work, they asked for a letter to prove she was needed. She found herself in a difficult situation and [Philbrook] wanted to help out.”
Philbrook suffers from a number of disabilities and from stress and depression, Kuczma said. But a psychiatric report shows he has computer training and wants to return to work. He’s also excited about the birth of a grandchild.
Although Kuczma asked the court to impose a conditional discharge, provincial court Judge Sue Wishart did not feel it was appropriate and instead suspended the passing of sentence.
“I’m concerned by the offence because there was some thought put into it, first writing the letter then dressing up in uniform and going to her place of work with that letter,” Wishart said.
Wishart ordered Philbrook to perform 40 hours of community service, to stay away from the Oak Bay Kiwanis Health Centre and to attend counselling as directed by his probation officer.
- See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/faux-major-sought-time-off-for-girlfriend-1.1020485#sthash.L10aDob9.dpuf
Faux major sought time off for girlfriend
LOUISE DICKSON / TIMES COLONIST
MAY 3, 2014 10:02 PM
Victoria provincial court heard details of a case in which a Victoria man pretended to be a Canadian army major to get his girlfriend a little time off work. The man has been placed on 12 months probation.
A Victoria man who pretended to be a Canadian army major to get his girlfriend a little time off work has been placed on 12 months probation.
Victoria provincial court heard the details of 53-year-old Allen Philbrook’s scheme to dress up in uniform and deliver a letter, purportedly signed by Gen. Walt Natynczyk, then Canada’s Chief of Defence Staff, to the supervisor at the Oak Bay Kiwanis Health Centre on Sept. 27, 2012.
Crown prosecutor Susan Rupertus told the court that Philbrook’s girlfriend, Heather Scott, worked there as a licensed practical nurse and had asked her supervisor for time off because Philbrook was sick in hospital in Vancouver and doctors recommended she be at his bedside.
According to Rupertus, Scott’s supervisor, Penny Donaldson, was skeptical and told Scott she would need a doctor’s note.
Scott took time off. When she returned to work, Donaldson asked for the doctor’s note. Scott replied that the note would be coming from the military shortly, said Rupertus. “After that, Mr. Philbrook, in full military uniform, arrived at the centre and found Ms. Donaldson, who was in a meeting with some colleagues. One of her colleagues immediately noticed the uniform was 1960s vintage,” Rupertus said.
“He identified himself as Maj. Philbrook and handed over a letter written by Gen. Walt Natynczyk of the Canadian Armed Forces. He thanked her for giving Ms. Scott the time off and left.”
Donaldson looked at the letter and was immediately suspicious because it was full of mistakes, Rupertus said. “It did not have the look of a general’s letter.”
The supervisor questioned Scott and the investigation continued from there.
Philbrook pleaded guilty to forgery. A second charge of wearing a uniform of the Canadian Forces without lawful authority was stayed by the Crown.
Defence lawyer Roland Kuczma told the court that Philbrook is a good man who made a terrible mistake that did not benefit him personally. “It’s clearly unsophisticated, but it was an attempt to help Ms. Scott,” Kuczma said. “It’s very unfortunate that shortly after, their relationship broke up.”
Kuczma said that Philbrook was in hospital with a heart condition and doctors thought having his partner there would help stabilize him. “[Scott] was going to go over to help out, but very quickly, everything was OK,” Kuczma said. “She had asked for the time off, and they gave it to her. She went to Tofino for a few days. When she went back to work, they asked for a letter to prove she was needed. She found herself in a difficult situation and [Philbrook] wanted to help out.”
Philbrook suffers from a number of disabilities and from stress and depression, Kuczma said. But a psychiatric report shows he has computer training and wants to return to work. He’s also excited about the birth of a grandchild.
Although Kuczma asked the court to impose a conditional discharge, provincial court Judge Sue Wishart did not feel it was appropriate and instead suspended the passing of sentence.
“I’m concerned by the offence because there was some thought put into it, first writing the letter then dressing up in uniform and going to her place of work with that letter,” Wishart said.
Wishart ordered Philbrook to perform 40 hours of community service, to stay away from the Oak Bay Kiwanis Health Centre and to attend counselling as directed by his probation officer.
- See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/faux-major-sought-time-off-for-girlfriend-1.1020485#sthash.L10aDob9.dpuf
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Remember this guy?
Like he wasn't already in enough poop ....
More from the Australian & New Zealand Military Imposters group on this guy here.
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Audio sucks on that vid, can't make it out, but his tone is quite waffle-y.
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