Violent police arrest video released

[57Chevy]

Here's another shot to clarify.
But you can go to google maps street view and look around.

 

[ballz]

Nobody who is running away from police would go into a parking lot that offers no further place to go.

Unless there was no planning involved whatsoever...

Unless I am misunderstanding your idea, it's a bit crazy... How on earth could he have planned to trick the police into using unnecessary force? And whether or not the police used excessive force in the arrest, he's still going to end up convicted of the robbery (if he actually did commit it of course, presumption of innocence and all), so this "plan b" would be a really shitty "plan b" since it doesn't get him off at all.

 

[Pieman]

Considering you can't differentiate between a face and a shoulder, I'll treat the rest of your post with appropriate weight.

Face/Shoulder/Kneck. Given the angle of the camera I can't see what his foot came into contact with. Do you have magical powers we should be aware of that allow you to know these things? No. So, I suggest you try to look at things more objectively. Also, please read my post again as you have clearly missed the point of it.

Unless I am misunderstanding your idea, it's a bit crazy... How on earth could he have planned to trick the police into using unnecessary force?

I'm not understanding the idea either. Running to a spot where he knew there were cameras? Maybe...? Seems a very far fetched theory with the only evidence to support it was the presence of cameras....which are just about everywhere these days. Again, all speculation which is going to give no real answers.

 

[Container]

Your friend is a bloody fool, and it disturbs me that with that attitude he was ever trusted with a weapon. I can't exaggerately how mind numbingly stupid that opinion is.

Warning shots are part of Corrections Canada use of Force. There are police services in Canada that have warning shots in policy. Its been a headache to more than one investigation where a judge references them. They are not good practice however- but they have a place in a correctional setting though- as do "bounce shots". That said warning shots dont go into the air.

Basic 1 + 1 rule.  If there is 1 weapon, there are 2 weapons.  At that point, as soon as he started actively resisting by moving his hands into the positions that he did, the goal is to subdue him as soon as possible, get control of his hands and get the cuffs on, don't forget, there's a loaded pistol on the ground and the last thing anyone needs is it ending up in his hand.

Ill mention Buddy Tavares and Geoff Mantler because that case again speaks directly to what youre saying.

The police officer was accused of excessive force because he kicked Buddy in the face while trying to arrest him. The officer at the time believed the suspect to be armed with a shotgun. The court, and the use of force expert, rejected the "1 plus 1" and immediate danger defence because the officer did not do a proper high risk take down. Neither do these officers.

Who knows what kind of dialogue took place before and during the arrest. So there may be something we are missing- but if they wanted to use danger and fear for their lives they would have had to go about their business differently. No force in Canada Im aware of teaches anything remotely similar to whats in the video- but sometimes crap happens.

That said- offenders have been getting arrested where they know there are cameras for years. It gets them lighter sentences when they feign resistance and then plead police brutality. Its a common court game.

 

[larry Strong]

Police officers charged in violent arrest caught on video


According toan article which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from CBC News

Four police officers caught on video kicking and punching a robbery suspect who appeared to be surrendering are now facing criminal charges.

The officers, from Trois-Rivières, Que. were suspended with pay after the video of the arrest was made public.

The clip, captured by a surveillance video at a nearby college, shows 19-year-old Alexis Vadeboncoeur putting down what appears to be a gun and lying face down in the snow, with his arms outstretched as four Trois-Rivières municipal police officers approach.

It then shows Vadeboncoeur, who doesn't appear to make any threatening movements, being kicked and punched by officers as he lies on the ground.

Police were chasing Vadeboncoeur after he was allegedly involved in an armed robbery at a nearby pharmacy.

The footage of the arrest was released in February following Vadeboncoeur's bail hearing.

In their police report, the officers said the teen had broken into a business. They reported they had to use force because their lives were in danger.

Quebec provincial police were brought in to investigate and charges were officially laid this week.

Marc-André Saint-Amant, Barbara Provencher, Dominic Pronovost and Kaven Deslauriers were charged with several offenses including assault with a weapon, assault causing bodily harm and obstructing justice by hiding the existence of the video.

They have not yet entered a plea

They are scheduled to appear in a Trois-Rivières court on May 31.

The Trois-Rivières police service is also conducting an internal investigation into the incident and is expected to present a report to city council.

The city has said it will not comment on the incident until that report is completed.

René Duval, Vadeboncoeur's lawyer, told Radio-Canada he was very satisfied with the provincial police investigation and the decision of the Crown to follow through with charges.

His client is scheduled to return to court in September

Larry