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Because he’s been so vocal about Russia and its invasion of Ukraine?
Spare me - the Pope is a shyster of epic hypocrisy
US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence
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Spare me - the Pope is a shyster of epic hypocrisy
Brad Sallows
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I'm not claiming he gets it right.
As I wrote, ignore him, particularly if he aggravates your blood pressure.
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…and in pre-2016 elections, that would be enough to have legit conversations about whether a POTUS candidate was fit to run if they couldn’t keep those straight in their head.
But here we are.
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Yes, much like a primary candidate whose response to being told something is unconstitutional by an older, more governmentally experienced primary candidate, is to suggest going ahead anyways, and then laughing.
They all say stupid things. They all ignore relevant information. They all get facts mixed up.
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“Just watch me”.
But to go back on topic, apparently Harris did do an interview yesterday. I screenshotted various headlines from it and no slant at all…
Brad Sallows
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That's the one I referred to above. It's why I conclude she wasn't fed the questions for the debate - her answers then were no better than the ones during the interview. (If she was fed questions both times, she's in deep electoral trouble.) Did you watch any of the interview?
It's probable that I'm more critical of political speakers than most people; she's a mess. So is Trump. So is Biden. Biden at least is a victim of age.
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My thoughts on the annointing. Not necessarily spot on or complete.
Before Joe's debate, they were looking for a way to get rid of Harris. She was polling lower than whale shit. She is still polling below where Biden and Clinton were at this point.
Joe didn't perform. They needed him gone. In order to seize his war chest and primary votes, they needed Harris who was running on the same ticket. They shot themselves in the foot backing Biden, even though they knew he was demented. The whole situation was due to a massive misread by the democrat power brokers.
There wasn't time to run a full primary with real candidates. And manage those candidate to see who could be controlled. Harris was a known quantity. They knew if they backed her she would be their puppet.
All of a sudden she was their darling. She had no numbers, no money, no support of any kind, except what Joe had already. The party was treating her as a pariah. Overnight, she became their darling.
Now they need to figure out how to make her palpable to the masses. Money is not the problem, the script by the DNC isn't the problem. The problem is Harris. She is devoid of detail, flip flops and people don't trust her. She is still an unknown quantity.
Some may disagree and they may be right. However, the only poll that matters is Nov 5. All discussion, arguments and crystal ball gazing is just an acedemic exercise. I am personally exhausted with the back and forth and don't want to continue. Maybe I'll post an interesting article or two, but don't want to waste time discussing an election that I can do nothing about.
I wish we could spend as much time on our own election and politics as we do discussing the US.
Before Joe's debate, they were looking for a way to get rid of Harris. She was polling lower than whale shit. She is still polling below where Biden and Clinton were at this point.
Joe didn't perform. They needed him gone. In order to seize his war chest and primary votes, they needed Harris who was running on the same ticket. They shot themselves in the foot backing Biden, even though they knew he was demented. The whole situation was due to a massive misread by the democrat power brokers.
There wasn't time to run a full primary with real candidates. And manage those candidate to see who could be controlled. Harris was a known quantity. They knew if they backed her she would be their puppet.
All of a sudden she was their darling. She had no numbers, no money, no support of any kind, except what Joe had already. The party was treating her as a pariah. Overnight, she became their darling.
Now they need to figure out how to make her palpable to the masses. Money is not the problem, the script by the DNC isn't the problem. The problem is Harris. She is devoid of detail, flip flops and people don't trust her. She is still an unknown quantity.
Some may disagree and they may be right. However, the only poll that matters is Nov 5. All discussion, arguments and crystal ball gazing is just an acedemic exercise. I am personally exhausted with the back and forth and don't want to continue. Maybe I'll post an interesting article or two, but don't want to waste time discussing an election that I can do nothing about.
I wish we could spend as much time on our own election and politics as we do discussing the US.
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Wait until we're having an election, bearing in mind it's going to be a lot shorter than the complete timetable of a US presidential election. We simply don't have as much time to fret over the outcome.
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Right from the Insta site. Not my comment but I’d like to see how long before it gets taken down
Fact-checking Harris’ claim about US troops in combat zones
The first 2024 presidential election debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump touch
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Obviously, the troops don't accept the DoD premise. I doubt many civvies, who know little about the nuances of military jargon, will either. If troops are outside of the US and being attacked on a regular basis, they are in a war zone, to most. Trying to explain it away by wordsmithing it, won't work.
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Except that in a legal sense, there is a distinction. The US has not declared war, so there isn’t a “war zone”. I could be wrong so will defer to @FJAG, but I didn’t think that the US has officially declared war on anyone since the end of WWII.
“Combat zone”? Definitely her mis-speaking. But not “war zone”.
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If you have to resort to closely parsing doctrinal and institutional definitions to defend a statement you made to ordinary voters, you're losing.
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To be fair, I think she misspoke. Obviously, since there are troops in combat zones as seen in the video.
It is a bit of a “gotcha” but honestly, if you ask most people what they took out of the debate (if they even saw it), it was this:
daftandbarmy
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Well, it looks like they might be in all around defence of the DFAC but still, it provides ammo for the Trumpsters....
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the US election is up for the take and is happening now whereas we are over a year away from a semi mandated Canadian election that doesnt seem to me at least right now to be in much doubt
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We’ll see if Poilievre brings up the non-confidence vote on Monday when Parliament goes back into session.
I doubt it, since I don’t see any other parties going along with it.
But I digress since this is the US thread.
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