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US Economy

Thucydides said:
Want to talk about wast and fraud? Here is an example that set the US taxpayer back half a billion dollars. For comparison, a half billion invested in the private sector is the resources needed to create up to 10,000 full time jobs:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/08/31/breaking-solyndra-solar-plant-closes-535-million-vanishes-obama-curse-strikes-again/?print=1

I never claimed that they have a monopoly on it.  Very liitle accounability, and lacks regualtion, among other things  is what is causing the WESTERN Economies to tank.

More sunny news

Goldman settles with New York regulator over foreclosures
REproduced under fair use of the copyright act.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/us/goldman-settles-with-new-york-regulator-over-foreclosures/article2150388/

"Litton’s regulatory troubles stem largely from the practice of robo-signing, in which bank employees signed foreclosure documents without reviewing case files as required by law. Many large banks, including Bank of America Corp., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc., have been targets of probes by state and federal regulators over the same issue."



 
More detail - Reproduced  under Fair use of copyright act

"After three years, the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting completed its business this week. In its final report to Congress (PDF), it estimates that the federal government has lost between $31 and $60 billion to contractor fraud and waste since the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq started. "The government was not prepared to go into Afghanistan in 2001 or Iraq in 2003 using large numbers of contractors, and is still unable to provide effective management and oversight of contract spending," said commission co-chairman Michael Thibault.

Beyond its bureaucratic title ("Inattention to contingency contracting leads to massive waste, fraud, and abuse"), the most interesting chapter of the commission's 248-page report reads like a greatest-hits list of expensive bloopers that make that famous $600 Pentagon toilet seat look like a bargain. In ascending order of egregiousness, here are the top 10 war-contractor boondoggles detailed in the report:"

The All-Time 10 Worst Military Contracting Boondoggles
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/contractor-waste-iraq-KBR

My point with the Marauder is that pretty much since the beginning of war there have been War profiteers,  seems that lately their on even more of a rampage with little effective oversite.


 
2012 is going to be a long, hard year for everyone:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obamas-jobs-speech-to-offer-more-failed-stimulus/

Obama’s Jobs Speech to Offer More Failed StimulusPosted By Peter Roff On September 2, 2011 @ 12:00 am In economy,Elections 2012,Media,Politics,US News | 31 Comments

All eyes are on President Barack Obama as he prepares to deliver his highly anticipated speech on jobs after Labor Day before a joint session of Congress [1].

What he is going to say is open to speculation. Advance teasers [2] coming out of the administration suggest he will once again call for the creation of an infrastructure bank to fix roads, bridges and airports — and create thousands of new jobs for unionized workers; push for an extension of the temporary employee payroll tax holiday; and, as he did in his speech Tuesday to the American Legion, ask Congress to approve some kind of tax credit for companies that hire unemployed veterans.

Obama is also likely to call for another extension of unemployment benefits and increased funding for school construction and renovation. He may also, some analysts suggest, call for a temporary tax holiday that will allow U.S. corporations that do business in other countries to bring profits earned in those countries back into the United States at a reduced rate.

All of this is interesting, but almost none of it would have the effect of stimulating the American economy to any real degree.

In the main, the proposals that have leaked out amount to little more than a streamlined version of what Obama and Congress already did during the first year of his administration, measures that were supposed to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

As we now know, the effort failed and the promise was made from whole cloth. Unemployment has been stuck above 9 percent for much of Obama’s presidency and does not look to be coming down any time soon. Additionally, the stimulus failed to stimulate the American economy. The U.S. gross domestic product grew by just 1 percent in the last quarter, leaving many economists to fear that a double-dip recession is in the offing.

It should be clear by now that massive public sector spending does not stimulate the economy, the writings and theories of John Maynard Keynes notwithstanding. It is especially worrisome that Obama appears to be considering even more of the same despite the fact that, on his watch alone, the federal debt has increased by 4 trillion dollars. That the government, as someone once said, cannot spend its way into prosperity is a lesson lost on the president and the members of his economic team. The keys to prosperity are, as Kennedy and Reagan both proved, in private hands.

The Republicans are already headed in another direction — setting up yet another confrontation with the White House.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor began the week by outlining a series of legislative proposals he said would stimulate the economy by getting the federal government off the backs of the people who create jobs — especially American small business.

In a memo [3] to his House Republican colleagues, Cantor outlined a program to repeal what he called “job-destroying regulations” that are preventing the creation of “middle class jobs”:

    Our regulatory relief agenda will include repeal of specific regulations, as well as fundamental and structural reform of the rule-making system through legislation like the REINS Act, the Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act, and reform of the Administrative Procedures Act.

The assault on the federal regulatory structure is long overdue. According to the non-partisan Phoenix Center for Advanced Legal & Economic Public Policy Studies [4], a 5 percent across the board cut to federal regulatory agency operating budgets would produce $75 billion in new GDP growth and create 1.2 million new private sector jobs each year.

Cantor also said the House GOP would focus on finding ways to provide immediate tax relief that will create jobs, not just put money in people’s pockets. Two ideas he identified as being under consideration are the permanent repeal of the 3 percent withholding rule scheduled to go into effect in 2013 and a proposal that would allow small business people to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income.

“The goal was simple,” Cantor said in the memo. “Immediately free up funds for small business people to retain and hire new employees, and reinvest in and grow their businesses.”

There are other things Obama could do that would actually stimulate the economy, including the transmission of several pending free-trade agreements to the Senate for ratification. What he appears ready to do, however, is an entirely different matter. Based on the portions of his plan that have emerged thus far, he plans to help his friends, do nothing for his foes, and prepare to roll the dice in November of 2012 — hoping that he has done enough to help his political base that he can win re-election.

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[1] joint session of Congress: http://www.nationaljournal.com/obama-asks-for-joint-session-of-congress-on-sept-7-to-push-jobs-plan-20110831

[2] Advance teasers: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/179007-obama-to-address-joint-session-

[3] In a memo: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-29/cantor-says-republicans-aim-to-scale-back-regulations-hurting-job-growth.html

[4] Phoenix Center for Advanced Legal & Economic Public Policy Studies: http://www.phoenix-center.org/
 
How bad is US unemployment really?:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/09/05/labor_day_blues_111199.html

Labor Day Blues

By Robert Samuelson

WASHINGTON -- On this Labor Day, there is little good news about labor. We have entered a long period of crushing unemployment and downward pressure on wages that may well transform the nation's economic and political landscape. There was no job growth in August, and the overall numbers are stupefying: 14 million unemployed; nearly 9 million part-time workers wanting full-time jobs; 6.5 million who want jobs but are so discouraged that they've given up looking and are, therefore, not counted in the official labor force. People are only gradually recognizing the magnitude of the problem.

This is a historic inflection point, symbolized by President Obama's promise of a new jobs program. It's unclear whether either he or his Republican critics truly know how to speed up job creation. Obama has already provided massive "stimulus": $4 trillion of budget deficits from 2009 to 2011. Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve has kept short-term interest rates near zero. Still, the economy languishes. Nor will the Republican emphasis on less regulation and lower deficits instantly provide a big boost. Smaller deficits, for example, won't much reduce interest rates, because they're already low.

Even if this skepticism proves overdone -- and an effective jobs program emerges -- high unemployment will linger for years. Here's why, thanks to some jobs math from economist Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank.

To reduce unemployment, the economy must create enough new jobs to absorb entrants into the labor market and the existing out-of-work. Shierholz has calculated how many jobs would be needed to lower unemployment (9.1 percent in August) to 5 percent over five years. Her estimate: 16.9 million. That's an average of 282,000 jobs a month. The trouble is that this rate of job creation far exceeds the present level (105,000 a month since early 2010) or even the level (240,000) achieved during the boom between 1993 and 2000.

You can tinker with Shierholz's assumptions, but the main conclusion doesn't change. Even with rapid job growth, unemployment will descend slowly. With sluggish growth -- or another recession -- it may remain high indefinitely. There are no quick fixes. Unemployment will increasingly define our economic prospects and politics.

It's not only the jobless who will be affected. No one has yet repealed the law of supply and demand. At last count, there were 4.5 unemployed workers for every job opening. Bargaining power has shifted from labor to capital. Sure, some workers will get promotions and seniority raises. Otherwise, gains will be slim. Since September 2008, annual wage and salary increases have averaged 1.6 percent, the slowest pace in 30 years, reports EPI's Lawrence Mishel.

The middle-class "squeeze" long alleged by politicians is finally becoming reality. In the past it's been hyped. Over extended periods, most household incomes rose. For example, median inflation-adjusted incomes of four-person households were up 18 percent from 1990 to 2007. But now, stagnating take-home pay will make people feel they're treading water. More costly employer-provided health insurance will compound the squeeze on take-home pay.

Likewise, the social contract between workers and employers is being rewritten. After World War II, many large companies -- IBM, Kodak, Time Inc. -- provided well-paid and secure jobs for career employers. Theirs was a "career-type system," as UCLA economist Sanford Jacoby puts it. It was never universal. A parallel "churn-type system" of firms paid low wages and had high turnover. Job protections began breaking down in the 1980s; today's mass layoffs now accelerate the shift.

"Because employers face greater uncertainty, they're less willing to shelter employees from risk," says Jacoby. "There's been a change in the relative size of the two employment systems: The career-type system has shrunk, and the churn-type system has grown."

Still, high joblessness' harshest effects fall on the jobless. "We're creating a bifurcated society," worries Harvard economist Lawrence Katz. "We're talking about a lost generation of younger workers and displaced workers." Younger workers have a harder time starting careers. Because many skills are developed on the job, long unemployment spells can lower lifetime earnings. The same is true of older workers. Even when those who lose a stable job get new work, they often suffer a 20 percent earnings loss for 15 years or more, reports economist Till von Wachter of Columbia University.

Getting ahead is a central part of America's promise. Unemployment has exceeded 8 percent since February 2009; many forecasts expect it to stay there into at least 2014. Nothing like this has occurred since World War II. Will job fears compound consumer cautiousness, retard recovery and perversely worsen unemployment? How many workers will cling to jobs they despise because they can't find anything else? Will economic frustrations feed a populist backlash? Of left or right? Can America's leaders cope? On this Labor Day, questions are clearer than answers.

Copyright 2011, Washington Post Writers Group

 
So here is the offer:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2011/09/obamas-stimulus-lite-wont-revive-americas-economy

Obama's 'Stimulus-Lite' won't revive America's economy
By: Examiner Editorial | 09/07/11 8:05 PM

There is an old saw that insanity means doing the same thing over and over, in the vain hope that the outcome will somehow change. But having seen the early reports on the jobs package that President Obama is expected to propose tonight during his speech before a joint session of Congress, it appears the chief executive is attempting a variation: Insanity is the belief that if something doesn't work, it will eventually succeed if you just do it with less gusto the next time.

Obama reportedly will propose a $300 billion stimulus package, consisting almost entirely of familiar elements first seen in February 2009 with his $859 billion stimulus package. That program was supposed to reduce unemployment to below 8 percent. Tonight, among other things, he will call for an extension and expansion of the payroll tax cut currently in effect, yet another extension of unemployment benefits, and a public works construction package worth less than $50 billion. There are things to be said for each of these proposals when viewed in isolation. Unemployment benefits, for example, temporarily tide people over in hard times. Payroll tax cuts help workers take home a bit more money -- again, tiding them over in hard times. Infrastructure improvements can put in place tools -- such as highways -- needed for an economic expansion.

But these proposals also share several significant drawbacks. First, each will add to Washington's already record budget deficits at a time when Congress and the president are deeply involved in an epic battle over how much and where to reduce federal spending. Second, even under the best of circumstances, none of these policies will provide anything but slight and temporary short-term boosts. We have lived through the proof of this for the last two years, as the current 9.1 percent unemployment rate shows.

According to Reuters, Obama also plans to ask for higher taxes next week in order to finance this $300 billion package. If this is true, then the drawbacks of this plan far outweigh any claimed benefits. Between Obama's record budget deficits and extraordinary explosion of new federal regulations, the U.S. economy is suffocating. More red ink will only tighten Washington's noose around America's economic neck.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said yesterday the speech would include elements that have not been heard before, and we hope that these early news reports about Obama's plans are incomplete. But if they aren't, about the only way this approach makes sense is if Obama intends for Republicans to reject it, thus providing him with some imagined political benefit down the road. After $859 billion in failed stimulus spending, America is broke and its economy is teetering on the edge of a second recession. If Obama won't -- or can't -- present a serious economic plan tonight, then his political skills have been badly overrated

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2011/09/obamas-stimulus-lite-wont-revive-americas-economy#ixzz1XNMtisRM
 
And lets look the official unemployment history (remember, the actual figures may be far higher once the discouraged and involuntarily underemployed are added back in:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276695/unemployment-rates-promised-vs-actual-veronique-de-rugy

The Corner

Unemployment Rates: Promised vs. Actual
September 8, 2011 5:23 P.M.
By Veronique de Rugy 

In 2009, President Obama promised that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act would “create or save” 3.5 million jobs over the next two years and that the unemployment rate would not rise above 8.5 percent. By the end of 2010, he promised, unemployment would have dropped to 7.25 percent. Furthermore, White House economists forecast that without ARRA spending, the unemployment rate would increase from 7 percent to 8.8 percent. Unfortunately, the administration’s estimates were wrong by a vast margin.

This week’s chart compares unemployment estimates from the president’s 2010 Budget — which contains the original proposed estimates for the impact of the stimulus on unemployment — with actual unemployment rates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The data show that since the enactment of ARRA in February 2009, unemployment has not approached previous unemployment levels again: it was 7.6 percent when Obama took office, it is 9.1 percent today. Unemployment peaked at 10.2 percent in October 2009, an amount significantly higher than the administration’s warning for what unemployment would be without the stimulus (8.8 percent).

The lesson: Beware of promises.

As the prospect of yet another increase in stimulus spending for the sake of job creation looms, we need to be reminded that sustainable job creation comes from the private sector. True “stimulus” legislation is that which creates a stable, low-regulatory regime that will enable businesses to hire workers in sustainable jobs — jobs that will last long after stimulus funds have run out.

 
California passes an "Amazon.com Tax" with the predictable result that Amazon.com stops doing business in California (cutting all affiliate business). Here is one of the spinoff results; a company with 100 employees is preparing to leave the state. This was entirely predictable, and already happened in other US states (which makes this the definition of insanity; doing the same thing and expecting a different result):

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/10/savings-com-sends-dear-john-letter-to-california/

Savings.com sends Dear John letter to California
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Two months ago, Governor Jerry Brown signed the Affiliate-Nexus Tax bill, which requires Internet retailers with a relationship to California-based businesses to pay sales tax on all related transactions.  The state government figured that Amazon and other retailers needed the California market too much to bail out of it.  Instead, those retailers have cut off their affiliate relationships, which puts thousands of small businesses in California at risk of failure.  One of those small businesses, Savings.com, sent a letter to its California customers saying that they will pack up and leave — and take their 100 or so jobs with them:

    Ever since you and your new BFF–the Affiliate Nexus Tax–started hanging out, people just don’t want to do as much business with us anymore. Sure, we know it seems only fair that online retailers without a physical presence in California should have to collect sales taxes from their customers just like everyone else. The problem is, until every other state–or the federal government–feels the same way, companies like Amazon.com, Overstock and others have decided that it’s not worth working with us (or 25,000 other California-based businesses) anymore. Apparently, in your eyes, our affiliate relationship makes them liable for collecting taxes. They’ve decided it makes better sense to just work with affiliates beyond your, admittedly still picturesque, borders.

    We know this letter might come as a bit of a shock–especially because things had been going so well between us. Last year alone we helped drive $400 million in sales and we’ve doubled the number of California jobs we provide year-after-year. And people started to notice: the LA Business Journal named us a “Best Place to Work in Los Angeles” and then Inc. Magazine just named us one of the “500 Fastest Growing Companies in 2011.” So what went wrong?

    Well, you’re a Pisces, we’re a Gemini. And maybe we’re just being sensitive–like the time we asked you what color our eyes were and you said “white”–but we can either stick with you and try to weather the loss in revenue during these already fragile times, or we can start considering some of the offers from the other states that changed their feelings about affiliate companies like us. Sure, we’d miss you (you are still gorgeous after all) but maybe some clean Rocky Mountain air, or the sound of crashing surf on The North Shore, would be refreshing. Don’t worry, you could keep the futon, VCR player and Charoodles–but our 100+ employees and the state income taxes they pay each year would be coming along with us.


Well, who needs those 100+ jobs anyway?  Er, California does, since it has one of the highest state-unemployment rates in the nation at over 12%.  Obviously the state of California is more focused on collecting new taxes than in promoting small business, and just as obviously, the small businesses that work with Internet retailers can relocate more easily than most others.

It’s not as if the e-merchants didn’t warn California of the impact from the ANT.  Two months ago, Savings.com CEO Thomas Swalla told SoCalTech that California’s hubris would be its undoing:

    How did the tax move last night affect your business?

    Thomas Swalla: Certainly, a majority of our business model is directly affected by this. I think there are two things going on. One, is the issue of whether Amazon should have to collect sales tax for California. I have my own personal opinions, but from a company stand point, that’s neither here nor there. However, the reality, is that the law, as it is written, tries to force Amazon and others to pay taxes here. The law says–because you have a relationship with Savings.com, that gives us right to claim nexus over you. It’s not just online business, it’s also brick and mortar retailers like Cabela’s, which just told us they’re terminating our affiliate relationship too. That nexus says that you have to collect sales tax from California residents when they sell items to them. That was the purpose of the law.

    So what actually happened?

    Thomas Swalla: Unfortunately, the way it got implemented in California, is that those retailers said–you’re in California, we understand you passed this law, which says you have a nexus in California because of the relationship with Savings.com, so we’re just going to end all ties with all of our affiliates in the state. We’ve already gotten several termination letters from those companies, which impacts our business pretty dramatically. In other states, Connecticut and Illinois, they gave 60-90 days before the actual bill went into effect. That gives you time to plan a little better. But this literally happened yesterday. We knew it would come, but which didn’t know how or which affiliate programs it would affect. We knew that Amazon.com and Overstock would cut off those programs, but we didn’t know that folks like Fabric.com and Cabela’s would. We’re still receiving notices today.

    We imagine that’s quite a negative affect on the business?

    Thomas Swalla: It’s certainly been negative on our business. We’ve put all options on the table. That includes laying people off, or moving–probably to Nevada–but before we do, we want to certainly make sure we understand from the legislatures of other states around California on what their position is. If we had to pick up and move everything from Santa Monica to Nevada, we’d certainly want to make sure they didn’t go make this a law too in twelve months. It is bad, and it definitely impacts the business. This is how we make the majority of our revenue–from the affiliate model. It’s a little weird though, because they’re claiming that because Savings.com gets paid when someone buys something from Amazon, the CPA model, we are a marketing affiliate and Amazon has to collect sales taxes. However, if we were just providing clicks, using the CPC model, they wouldn’t be affected. If Amazon just paid for clicks on our side, it wouldn’t have any effect, but because it’s CPA, it does.

    It sounds like legislators didn’t think through these impacts?

    Thomas Swalla: To me, the frustrating thing is that while talking to people in Sacramento, this was incredibly predicable. In every other state that this has happened, they didn’t collect any additional taxes, business left the state, and there was a net negative effect. It’s very predictable. I think maybe if you’re not in the business day to day, you don’t understand that. I think most lawmakers were thinking that California is too big, and they wouldn’t just end their relationship with 20,000 companies. But yeah, they just did, and it was an easy decision.

    Did the lawmakers not just understand how companies would be affect?

    Thomas Swalla: I think they just don’t understand the consequence. The spirit of getting Amazon to collect taxes from people in California makes complete sense. But, the way it actually got implemented had some unintended consequences. Those companies just said–we won’t pay the taxes, and we’ll end those relationships. Not only will the state not get more revenue, it may actually lose revenue, if what happened in Illnois happens here. If you saw what happened in Illinois, there were a number of companies–CouponCabin and FatWallet–who actually moved out of state after the bill passed. That might be what happens here. If technology business relocate, the industry will end up suffering. We haven’t gotten through all the numbers, although it won’t put us out of business, it will certainly affect us in a real negative way.

Affiliate entrepreneurs have launched an effort called Get Back In Business, which hopes to put a referendum on the 2012 ballot to repeal the ANT.  Don’t expect Savings.com to make a return if it passes, though.  Once burned in the California sunshine, they’re most likely to look where governments are attempting to attract rather than repel businesses.
 
The EPA will certainly be another issue for the 2012 election; now that regulatory overreach is openly crippling the economy:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1365720

Obama’s EPA not a ‘rogue’ agency at all
By Mackubin Thomas Owens
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 - Updated 21 hours ago

President Barack Obama recently enraged some of his supporters by issuing an executive order postponing a plan by the Environmental Protection Agency to tighten ozone standards, a step that by the EPA’s own reckoning would incur an annual compliance cost of anywhere from $19 billion to $90 billion and that private sector analysts estimate would result in the loss of 7.3 million U.S. jobs.

Some optimists saw this as a belated attempt to rein in a rogue agency that seems bent on achieving environmental goals at the expense of a healthy economy. But others note that the president did not reverse the EPA edict; he merely postponed it until after the 2012 election. And they further contend that there is little evidence that he has repudiated the agency’s heavy-handed approach to environmental “protection.”

Many analysts — including yours truly — have made the mistake of arguing that the Obama administration has no energy policy. But the evidence increasingly reveals that the administration does indeed have an energy policy, one that is designed to reduce access to fossil fuels by raising their price, thereby making “alternate” or “green” energy sources more attractive.

The administration’s approach is constantly on display: Use government policy to raise oil and gas prices, subsidize alternative energy sources, then mandate the use of the latter. The EPA, far from being a rogue agency, remains an important tool for implementing this policy.

In addition to the postponed ozone plan, here are some other plans the EPA has in store for us.

First, the agency recently issued final regulations curbing power plant emissions of sulfur and nitrogen oxides in 28 states and the District of Columbia. The so-called Cross-State Air Pollution Rule, which takes effect in 2012, aims to slash power plant emissions that drift across state borders.

The new rule comes only six years after the EPA ordered a 70 percent reduction in the same emissions by 2025. The new rules have the potential to severely impact nearly 20 percent of the nation’s coal-fueled power plants. Financial analysts estimate that the cost of this rule will be $130 billion by 2015.

In March of this year, the EPA proposed new standards for coal-fired plants that would establish a “maximum achievable control technology” standard for mercury and other hazardous air emissions, requiring utilities to install equipment that is prohibitively expensive or, in some cases, doesn’t yet exist. The resulting closures of coal plants due to the ruling would reduce the output of electricity by 30,000 to 70,000 megawatts.

The EPA is considering regulating coal ash as a hazardous waste, based on the claim that it contains toxic metals.

But coal ash contains only trace quantities of such metals. Since coal ash is used in many beneficial applications, e.g. road construction, its regulation as hazardous waste will result in the loss of as many as 316,000 jobs and a cost to the American economy of $110 billion over two decades, according to financial analysts.

In addition, the EPA is preparing to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions from power plants, oil refineries and other large industries. Again, such regulations would raise electricity rates throughout the country, undermine the competitiveness of U.S. industries and send more jobs overseas.

Finally the EPA plans to mandate the use of expensive cooling towers at new and existing power plants to protect fish and other aquatic species from hot water discharges into lakes, rivers and coastal waters. Some 413 coal plants would be affected at a cost of $300 million per coal plant. Since the cost of installing cooling towers at older power plants would be excessive, many utilities would most likely shut down the plants, reducing electrical generation.

Considering the fact that fossil fuels provide 85 percent of our nation’s energy, such costly, job-killing regulations seem foolhardy. But as part of an explicit policy to raise the cost of fossil fuels relative to otherwise uneconomical alternative energy sources dependent on taxpayer subsidies and legislated mandates, they make perfect sense.

Mackubin Thomas Owens is professor of National Security Affairs at the U.S. Naval War College in Newport, R.I. The views expressed here are the author’s alone.
 
Education can make a difference, and it seems that F.A Hayek is finally getting the attention he deserves:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/09/ohio-class-notes-hayek-is-overtaking-keynes.php

Posted on September 15, 2011 by Steven Hayward
Ohio Class Notes: Hayek Is Overtaking Keynes

I hope Power Line readers took in and enjoyed the two “Hayek v. Keynes” rap music YouTube videos that were a viral hit last year.  (The first one is up to 2.6 million views.)  They are the product partly of George Mason University economist Russ Roberts, who does one of the http://www.econtalk.org/more interesting interview podcast series around—worth checking on if you haven’t.)  One of the small subtexts of these videos is that Keynes is the more celebrated of the two; he gets the chicks (even though Keynes reportedly favored guys), the better hotel rooms, etc.

So I was interested to note two articles yesterday suggesting that the battle line for the 2012 election cycle in some ways reduces to Hayek versus Keynes.  Writing on Bloomberg.com (and there’s an irony—is there any less of a Hayekian figure in public life today than the egregious Michael Bloomberg?), Sylvia Nasar notes that the “Hayek versus Keynes” theme is inaccurate in many respects, as Hayek knew and liked Keynes, and vice-versa.  (There’s one famous late letter from Keynes to Hayek where Keynes indicated agreement with much of Hayek’s argument in The Road to Serfdom: “In my opinion it is a grand book [Keynes wrote]. We all have the greatest reason to be grateful to you for saying so well what needs so much to be said. . . . Morally and philosophically I find myself in agreement with virtually the whole of it; and not only in agreement with it, but in a deeply moved agreement.”  Keynes died shortly after, and some die-hard lefties dispute the context of this remark.)  Meanwhile, Steven Rattner’s account of things in the Financial Times is not as clearheaded, but gets the political outline right: “‘Keynes’ has almost become a vulgarity in US discourse. . .”

It appears to me that Hayek’s vindication is slowly proceeding.  (And as a special Bloomberg bonus, Amity Shlaes offers a great article on Frederic Bastiat.  If Mayor Bloomberg ever reads his own site, his head might explode.)

All of this is preface to passing along this week’s class notes from my Monday night political economy course at Ashland University, where we’re doing a close reading of Hayek’s Constitution of Liberty and related material.  This week we covered chapter 2 of Constitution (“The Creative Powers of a Free Society”) along with Hayek’s seminal 1945 American Economic Review essay, “The Use of Knowledge in Society.”  The two main points of the class were to underscore Hayek’s central insight on the facts that markets work because of the dispersal of knowledge, which leads to the important corollary that markets are important not primarily for their efficiency, but because markets are the best discovery process mankind has ever come up with—except that mankind didn’t consciously design it this way.

If you’ve never read the essay (and if not–do), here’s perhaps the key paragraph:

    The peculiar character of the problem of a rational economic order is determined precisely by the fact that the knowledge of the circumstances of which we must make use never exists in concentrated or integrated form but solely as the dispersed bits of incomplete and frequently contradictory knowledge which all the separate individuals possess. The economic problem of society is thus not merely a problem of how to allocate “given” resources—if “given” is taken to mean given to a single mind which deliberately solves the problem set by these “data.” It is rather a problem of how to secure the best use of resources known to any of the members of society, for ends whose relative importance only these individuals know. Or, to put it briefly, it is a problem of the utilization of knowledge which is not given to anyone in its totality.

And just one more excerpt:

    I have deliberately used the word “marvel” to shock the reader out of the complacency with which we often take the working of this mechanism for granted. I am convinced that if it were the result of deliberate human design, and if the people guided by the price changes understood that their decisions have significance far beyond their immediate aim, this mechanism would have been acclaimed as one of the greatest triumphs of the human mind. Its misfortune is the double one that it is not the product of human design and that the people guided by it usually do not know why they are made to do what they do. But those who clamor for “conscious direction”—and who cannot believe that anything which has evolved without design (and even without our understanding it) should solve problems which we should not be able to solve consciously—should remember this: The problem is precisely how to extend the span of our utilization of resources beyond the span of the control of any one mind; and therefore, how to dispense with the need of conscious control, and how to provide inducements which will make the individuals do the desirable things without anyone having to tell them what to do.

Now, if the Obama administration could take this to heart, maybe we’ll stop seeing fiascos like Solyndra, Stimulus II, Obamacare, etc.
 
While this is certainly the largest example, lots of other "green" companies have been receiving loans and Stimulus funds; there should ba a close look at them as well:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/277512

The Solyndra Fraud
The solar-energy company was a con game.

The Solyndra debacle is not just Obama-style crony socialism as usual. It is a criminal fraud. That is the theory that would be guiding any competent prosecutor’s office in the investigation of a scheme that cost victims — in this case, American taxpayers — a fortune.

Fraud against the United States is one of the most serious felony offenses in the federal penal law. It is even more serious than another apparent Solyndra violation that has captured congressional attention: the Obama administration’s flouting of a statute designed to protect taxpayers.

Homing in on one of the several shocking aspects of the Solyndra scandal, lawmakers noted that, a few months before the “clean energy” enterprise went belly-up last week, the Obama Energy Department signed off on a sweetheart deal. In the event of bankruptcy — the destination to which it was screamingly obvious Solyndra was headed despite the president’s injection of $535 million in federal loans — the cozily connected private investors would be given priority over American taxpayers. In other words, when the busted company’s assets were sold off, Obama pals would recoup some of their losses, while you would be left holding the half-billion-dollar bag.

As Andrew Stiles reported here at NRO, Republicans on the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee say this arrangement ran afoul of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. This law — compassionate conservatism in green bunting — is a monstrosity, under which Leviathan, which can’t run a post office, uses your money to pick winners and losers in the economy’s energy sector. The idea is cockamamie, but Congress did at least write in a mandate that taxpayers who fund these “investments” must be prioritized over other stakeholders. The idea is to prevent cronies from pushing ahead of the public if things go awry — as they are wont to do when pols fancy themselves venture capitalists.

On the Energy Policy Act, the administration’s malfeasance is significant, but secondary. That’s because the act is not a penal statute. It tells the cabinet officials how to structure these “innovative technology” loans, but it provides no remedy if Congress’s directives are ignored.

The criminal law, by contrast, is not content to assume the good faith of government officials. It targets anyone — from low-level swindlers to top elective officeholders — who attempts to influence the issuance of government loans by making false statements; who engages in schemes to defraud the United States; or who conspires “to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof, in any manner or for any purpose.” The penalties are steep: Fraud in connection with government loans, for example, can be punished by up to 30 years in the slammer.

Although Solyndra was a private company, moreover, it was using its government loans as a springboard to go public. When the sale of securities is involved, federal law criminalizes fraudulent schemes, false statements of material fact, and statements that omit any “material fact necessary in order to make the statements made . . . not misleading.” And we’re not just talking about statements made in required SEC filings. Any statement made to deceive the market can be actionable. In 2003, for example, the Justice Department famously charged Martha Stewart with securities fraud. Among other allegations, prosecutors cited public statements she had made in press releases and at a conference for securities analysts — statements in which she withheld damaging information in an effort to inflate the value of her corporation and its stock.

That’s exactly what President Obama did on May 26, 2010, with his Solyndra friends about to launch their initial public offering of stock. The solar-panel company’s California factory was selected as the fitting site for a presidential speech on the virtues of confiscating taxpayer billions to prop up pie-in-the-sky clean-energy businesses.

By then, the con game was already well under way. Solyndra had first tried to get Energy Act funding during the Bush administration, but had been rebuffed shortly before President Bush left office. Small wonder: Solyndra, as former hedge-fund manager Bruce Krasting concluded, was “an absolute complete disaster.” Its operating expenses, including supply costs, nearly doubled its revenue in 2009 — and that’s without factoring in capital expenditures and other costs in what, Krasting observes, is a “low margin” industry. The chance that Solyndra would ever become profitable was essentially nonexistent, particularly given that solar-panel competitors backed by China produce energy at drastically lower prices.

Yet, as Stiles reports, within six days of Obama’s taking office, an Energy Department official acknowledged that the Solyndra “approval process” was suddenly being considered anew. Eventually, the administration made Solyndra the very first recipient of a public loan guarantee when the Energy Act program was beefed up in 2009 — just part of nearly a trillion dollars burned through under the Obama stimulus.

For a while after Solyndra tanked, the administration stonewalled the House subcommittee’s investigation, but we now know that minions in the Energy Department and the Office of Management and Budget had enormous qualms about the Solyndra loan. They realized that the company was hemorrhaging money and, even with the loan, would lack the necessary working capital to turn that equation around. Yet they caved under White House pressure to sign off in time for Vice President Joe Biden to make a ballyhooed announcement of the loan in September 2009. An OMB e-mail laments that the timing of the loan approval was driven by the politics of the announcement “rather than the other way around.”

Why so much pressure to give half a billion dollars to a doomed venture? The administration insists it had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Solyndra’s big backers include the George Kaiser Family Foundation. No, of course not. George Kaiser, an Oklahoma oil magnate, just happens to be a major Obama fundraiser who bundled oodles in contributions for the president’s 2008 campaign. Solyndra officers and investors are said to have visited the White House no fewer than 20 times while the loan guarantee was being considered and, later, revised. Kaiser, too, made several visits — but not to worry: Both he and administration officials deny any impropriety. You’re to believe that the White House was just turning up the heat on OMB and DOE because Solyndra seemed like such a swell investment.

Except it didn’t seem so swell to people who knew how to add and subtract, and those people weren’t all at OMB and DOE. Flush with confidence that their mega-loan from Uncle Sam would make the company attractive to private investors, Solyndra’s backers prepared to take the company public. Unfortunately, SEC rules for an initial public offering of stock require the disclosure of more than Obama speeches glowing with solar power. Companies that want access to the market have to reveal their financial condition.

In Solyndra’s case, outside auditors from PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC) found that condition to be dire. “The company has suffered recurring losses from operations, negative cash flows since inception, and has a net stockholders’ deficit,” the PWC accountants concluded. Even with the gigantic Obama loan, Solyndra was such a basket case that PWC found “substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern.”

The “going concern” language is not boilerplate. As Townhall finance maven John Ransom explains, it is a term of art to which auditors resort when there is an extraordinary need to protect themselves and the company from legal liability. Angry investors who’ve lost their shirts tend to scapegoat the loser company’s accountants. In truth, even if the accountants affixed a neon “going concern” sign to the company’s financial statements, investors would have no one but themselves to blame. But it is unusual: The language is absent from the statements of many companies that actually end up going bankrupt. Auditors reserve it for the hopeless causes — like Solyndra.

With no alternative if they wanted to make a play for market financing, Solyndra’s backers disclosed the auditors’ bleak diagnosis in March 2010. The government had thus been aware of it for two months when President Obama made his May 26 Solyndra speech — the speech Solyndra backers were clearly hoping would mitigate the damage.

As president, Obama had a fiduciary responsibility to be forthright about Solyndra’s grim prospects — in speaking to the American taxpayers whose money he had redistributed, and to the American investors who were about to be solicited for even more funding. Instead, he pulled a Martha Stewart.

The president looked us in the eye and averred that, when it came to channeling public funds into private hands, “We can see the positive impacts right here at Solyndra.” He bragged that the $535 billion loan had enabled the company to build the state-of-the-art factory in which he was then speaking. He said nothing about how Solyndra was continuing to lose money — public money — at a catastrophic pace. Instead, he painted the brightest of pictures: 3,000 construction workers to build the thriving plant; manufacturers in 22 states building an endless stream of supplies; technicians in a dozen states constructing the advanced equipment that would make the factory hum; and Solyndra fully “expect[ing] to hire a thousand workers to manufacture solar panels and sell them across America and around the world.”

Not content with that rosy portrait, the president further predicted a “ripple effect”: Solyndra would “generate business for companies throughout our country who will create jobs supplying this factory with parts and materials.” Sure it would. The auditors had scrutinized Solyndra and found it to have, from its inception, a fatally flawed business model that was hurtling toward collapse. Obama touted it as a redistribution success story that would be rippling jobs, growth, and spectacular success for the foreseeable future.

It was a breathtaking misrepresentation. Happily, it proved insufficient to dupe investors who, unlike taxpayers, get to choose where their money goes. They stacked what the administration was saying against what the PWC auditors were saying and wisely went with PWC. Solyndra had to pull its initial public offering due to lack of interest.

But fraud doesn’t have to be fully successful to be a fraud, and this one still had another chapter to go. As the IPO failed and the company inevitably sank in a sea of red ink, Solyndra’s panicked backers pleaded with the administration to restructure the loan terms — to insulate them from their poor business judgment, allowing them to recoup some of their investment while the public took the fall.

It should go without saying that the duty of soi-disant public servants is to serve the public. In this instance, the proper course was clear. As structured, the loan gave the public first dibs on Solyndra’s assets if it collapsed, and, as we’ve seen, the law requires it. There was no good reason to contemplate a change.

In addition, as Andrew Stiles relates, OMB had figured out that there was no economic sense in restructuring: Solyndra was heading for bankruptcy anyway, and an immediate liquidation would net the government a better deal — about $170 million better. The case for leaving things where they stood was so palpable that OMB openly feared “questions will be asked” if DOE proceeded with an unjustifiable restructuring. So, with numbing predictability, the Obama administration proceeded with an unjustifiable restructuring. In exchange for lending some of their own money and thus buying more time, Solyndra officials were given priority over taxpayers with respect to the first $75 million in the event of a bankruptcy — the event all the insiders and government officials could see coming from the start, and that hit the rest of us like a $535 billion thunderbolt last week.

The administration’s rationalization is priceless. According to DOE officials, the restructuring was necessary “to create a situation whereby investors felt there was a value in their investment.” Of course, the value in an investment is the value created by the business in which the investment is made. Here, Solyndra had no value. Investors could be enticed only by an invalid arrangement to recoup some of their losses — by a scheme to make the public an even bigger sap.

The word for such schemes is fraud.

— Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, is the author, most recently, of The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America.
 
I don't know if I can take the above article from Andrew C. McCarthy seriously.  He clearly has his own agenda and can't really call any of his work reporting.  His book "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America" may hold some validity, but I dare say that he may be much further to right than any democrats are to the left.

I also noted that at first, he correctly mentions the $535 million dollar loan to Solyndra, but the next two times he mentions it, it is $535 billion.  Honest mistake? I think not.  A simple attempt to leave the readers with a big number in their head.  I think everyone knows, and has always known that green energy is not a money maker (yet), but it is step forward and it does employ people.  Unlike the 2008 bailout (not a loan) that still left people unemployed and only padded the pockets of very select few, with zero accountability.

I also looked for his articles about the 2008 bailout to see if he used the same level of scrutiny.  The articles I found are vague in details, even though they are talking about 1000 times the amount of money.  On the second page of this article he quickly mentions and deflects in one sentence the $85 Billion AIG bailout (once again, not a loan and 160x bigger than the Solyndra loan) only to go back his Obama bashing.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/225723/fraud-obama-guardian-american-taxpayer/andrew-c-mccarthy?page=2

I found some other right wing writers that label the bailout as a socialist takeover of the US private sector.  Yeah right, that problem was long brewing before Obama showed up and weren't the democrats mostly against the bailout, only to be pressured by the doomsday theories.

I realize that these writers, left or right, are very educated individuals (probably too educated to the point of brainwashed).  It's tough to take any of them serious when you know there is an underlying agenda free of any real journalism.  Ultimately, I can't trust a word they say.

Or, maybe I'm naive and that is the way the justice system is suppose to work.  Two opposite sides fling crap at each other and whoever has the most stuck to them at the end loses.
 
More on Solyndra in comments to Instapundit. The last line is a killer:

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/  23 Sep 2011

UPDATE: A reader emails:

    The question I have not heard asked is, How many Solyndras are there?

    How many have already failed? Or on the brink of failure? How many are still being planned?

    When I first discovered I can Google my screen name and see posts I wrote from a few years ago, I had two choices: 1, abandon posting my thoughts and therefore my screen name, or 2, post so many thousands of posts no one would bother checking what I have said. I chose the 2nd route, although I have no idea if my strategy has worked.

    But when you are talking TRILLIONS of dollars, I would think an overwhelming number of Solyndras would do the trick, as even the most ardent of watchdogs do not have the budget to seek out every Solyndra possible. It will take hundreds of volunteers hundreds of hours, even if they know what they are looking for. How many Social Security checks would these Solyndras pay for? How many Humvees could be armored? It is just disgusting in every way thinkable.

    We seniors used to think Congress, specifically the House, controlled the purse. Now it seems as though anyone can start the presses and print up a zillion dollars. It has made our nation fling toward the poor house. My wife and I gave up our home and 4 acres. I weep for my country. I say the pledge with tears in my eyes. Time is standing still due to the thought that they still have time, 7 days a week to ‘good ole boy’ spending into oblivion. Republicans cannot unite even on this one issue, maybe because they too, know it is almost too late to grind out a solution.

Indeed.

MORE: A reader emails: “It’s amusing to consider that Elon Musk has built an entire manned spaceflight program for less money than Obama pissed away on Solyndra. (Well, actually, it’s horrifyingly depressing. But a useful comparison, withal.) If you print this, please don’t use my name.” Okay.
 
Ironically, the below post is cut and paste from Elon Musk's Wikipedia page.

SolarCity

He is also the primary investor and chairman of the board of SolarCity, a photovoltaics products and services 2006 startup company where his cousin Lyndon Rive is the CEO and co-founder.[19][20] The underlying motivation for funding both SolarCity and Tesla is to help combat global warming.[21]
 
The key difference is he is using his own money to invest, not taking yours or mine.
 
The administration now has put over 1.2 billion of taxpayer money into these loan arrangements (they are not structured like normal loans, since the taxpayers seem to be at the end of the line rather than being the lead and secured creditors), and more interesting information is coming out about the various people and companies involved:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/29/steven-chu-oh-where-are-you-so

Steven Chu, Oh Where Are You? (Solyndra Roundup)

Tim Cavanaugh | September 29, 2011

Steven Chu got game. Sphinx-like Secretary of Energy Steven Chu may or may not be getting closer to approaching a plan to begin the process of preparing to lay the groundwork for issuing a preliminary statement on the Solyndra bankruptcy.

TheHill.com notes that the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s investigative panel is asking nicely for a comment from Chu:

    Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas) and other Republicans on the subcommittee have called on Chu to testify on the Solyndra loan guarantee. 

    Republicans on the panel wrote to Chu last week to request all communications between the Energy Department and the White House on the Solyndra loan guarantee. 

    The document request is part of a broader effort by Republicans to determine if the White House rushed consideration of the loan guarantee. 

    The committee, which launched its investigation into Solyndra in February, has already received more than 35,000 documents and has released select emails that Republicans say show that the White House tried to rush a decision on the company’s financing so that the loan guarantee could be announced at the Sept. 2009 groundbreaking of the company’s factory.

    The administration has insisted that it thoroughly reviewed the project, and has strongly denied any wrongdoing. 

In a striking example of overpromising and underdelivering, Politico takes a story that contains no new comments from Chu and some speculation about what the energy secretary might say here he inclined to say anything, then gives it the impressive title “On Solyndra, the buck stops with Secretary Steven Chu.” A sample:

    Chu will eventually get his chance to explain his role in the sequence of events when he appears — perhaps as early as October — at a House hearing on Solyndra. He can expect a politically charged atmosphere. Republicans, after all, have already called for Silver to be fired and haven't ruled out making the same case for Chu's dismissal.

    What the lawmakers will likely hear from the Nobel Prize-winning physicist is an explanation that he’s always been the key decider in the Solyndra process, with a record articulated in dozens of public statements and interviews given over the last 2½ years.

    Chu’s message has been clear: Hearing calls from top GOP and Democratic lawmakers, including during his Senate confirmation hearing, he wanted to break through red tape inside DOE and at rival Cabinet agencies that had resisted getting loan guarantees out the door for several years after their authorization by the Energy Policy Act of 2005.

I love that “eventually get his chance to explain.” Because Cthulhu knows it’s impossible for a cabinet-level department head to get any airtime to make a statement, what with the fragmentation of media and all.

As Chu spends time with his family, we may have a clue to why the FBI launched its investigation of Solyndra: an investigation into possible inaccurate financial statements.

The DoE’s impeccably timed $737 million loan to the Solar Energy Project is also smelling worse by the day. It can’t be a good sign when one of the most prominent beneficiaries of the loan is former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California)’s brother-in-law, and that isn’t even the scandalous part. NRO’s Andrew Stiles expands:

    But that’s not all. [Santa Monica-based SEP developer] Solar Reserve is also investment partners with Argonaut Private Equity, an arm of the (George) Kaiser Family Foundation that was a major investor in Solyndra and was involved in negotiations with the DOE to restructure the failed company’s loan agreement. That agreement would ultimately give Argonaut and other private investors priority status over the American taxpayer with respect to the first $75 million recovered in the event of Solyndra’s collapse. As Republicans argued at a recent House committee hearing, this arrangement was almost certainly a violation of federal statute.

    Argonaut’s managing director, Steven Mitchell, served on Solyndra’s board when the restructuring took place, and reportedly still serves on the company’s board. He is also listed as a “board participant” at Solar Reserve.

In other words: We have top men working on it right now.

Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reports that a new poll indicates few Americans are paying attention to the Solyndra scandal, and most still support so-called clean energy initiatives:

    Of 650 Ohio voters surveyed after Solyndra’s bankruptcy, just 11% said they had heard “a great deal” about the issue, the pollsters said. They also found that while 16% said they had heard “a little,” those people couldn’t talk about the issue in any detail.

    California voters who participated in focus groups were more aware of the story, but still supported clean energy and considered Solyndra to be a bad apple rather than an indication of a systemic problem. Nearly two-thirds of voters in the Ohio poll expressed similar sentiment, saying their view was more aligned with a statement that problems with one failed company should not stop clean energy investments as a whole.

More surprising than the continued support for solar power is the apparent support for spending taxpayer dollars on it, which the report [pdf] from Public Opinion Strategies has at 62 percent, versus 31 percent opposed. However, I’m a little skeptical of the strongly leading questions:

Shorter: All companies that don't get government subsidies must fail.

I hope the remaining 7 percent answered, as I would have, “Both of these options are stupid.” I don’t want my taxes subsidizing private companies of any kind, and I’m aware that the amount of energy conventional solar power generates is modest. But how the hell should I know whether solar businesses can compete or succeed without government assistance?

The only way to find out whether these companies can work in the marketplace is to let them compete without government assistance. In the wake of Solyndra a few companies have in fact come forward to brag about their subsidy-free business models, and I wish them well. If anything, the stunning longevity of the Mars rovers has impressed upon me the viability of solar power, on Mars.

Finally, this video has been in wide circulation for a few weeks, but seems to be getting a lot of attention today. Joe Biden, you’ve done it again!
 
More proof (as if any was really needed) that the stimulus spending was doomed to fail. The policy makers of the next admininstration will be hard pressed to eliminate the vast excess money supply and crush the inflationary spiral that the stimulus started (much less deleverage the huge debt)

http://blog.american.com/2011/09/repeating-the-hoover-mistake-paul-krugman-and-the-new-republic/

Repeating the Hoover Mistake: Paul Krugman and The New Republic

By Nick Schulz
September 29, 2011, 3:36 pm
 
Paul Krugman once wrote a column called “Fifty Herbert Hoovers,” in which he blasted state governors for cutting spending during a recession. “No modern American president would repeat the fiscal mistake of 1932, in which the federal government tried to balance its budget in the face of a severe recession,” Krugman wrote. John Judis, in his cover story for The New Republic, recounts what he believes is a gotcha moment on the campaign trail with Mitt Romney in which he said to the candidate:

    I want to ask you something about history. You know, when Herbert Hoover had to face a financial crisis and then unemployment, his strategy was to balance the budget and cut spending, and that made things worse. When Roosevelt came in, unemployment was twenty-five and went to fourteen percent by 1937. With deficits. Aren’t you repeating the Hoover mistake?

But as Tim Taylor points out, the only “Hoover mistake” being repeated is by folks like Krugman and Judis who apparently aren’t aware of what Hoover did while in office:

    Hoover’s budget strategy over his term of office was not to balance the budget. The budget ran a small deficit of 0.6 percent of GDP in 1931, followed by a much larger deficits of 4.0 percent of GDP in 1932 and 4.5 percent of GDP in fiscal year 1933 (which, as Judis points out at a different point in his discussion, started in June 1932 and was thus mostly completed before Roosevelt took office in 1933).

Taylor puts the matter plainly:

    Hoover did not cut spending. In nominal terms, federal spending went from $3.3 billion (!) in 1930 to $4.6 billion in 1933. Given price deflation during that time, the real increase in government spending would have been larger. With the economy declining in size, federal outlays more than doubled from 3.4 percent of GDP in 1930 to 8.0 percent of GDP in fiscal year 1933…

    Because of this pattern, it would be hard to find an economic historian to argue that fiscal tightness was a significant factor in worsening the Great Depression from 1929 to 1932.
 
Thucydides said:
The administration now has put over 1.2 billion of taxpayer money into these loan arrangements (they are not structured like normal loans, since the taxpayers seem to be at the end of the line rather than being the lead and secured creditors), and more interesting information is coming out about the various people and companies involved:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/29/steven-chu-oh-where-are-you-so

Will we be complaining the same way when the farming industry starts failing the same way?  Or, will we just charge larger amounts at the grocery store? 1.2B seems kind of small.  This is just a comparison because the farmer maybe next.  The farmer is working on minimal wage to begin with and considering he is providing what we really need he deserves every freebee necessary to keep him in production..  We need 2 things to survive, food and water.  A 3rd thing is power.

The 3rd thing is power.  Why are we nickel and dimeing these 3 things?  People such as financial gurus seem to be soaking up much more;  and to the advantage of much less people I would add.

Someone or something (money) is pointing the talented lawyers and lobbyists in the wrong direction.
 
I really wish I had time to research this properly, but a number I will pull out of my #$% would be 1B.

1B in the power industry would employ many people (maybe for only a short period of time and eventually with a loss), but provide cheap power to many more.

1B to financial execs = a days salary, lunch expenses and weekend bonus to a few.
 
I apologize for the many posts, but lastly.

Hippies need to kick themselves in the junk.

Nuclear is the best solution.  I hope our elected brains at work are making this happen.
 
That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen by Frederic Bastiat (1850) explains it all. Every dollar being spent on crony capitalism is a dollar that isn't available to farmers, small business, homeowners or anyone else for any purpose whatsoever. A billion dollars of private investment is the resources capable of creating up to 20,000 full time jobs.

US Agribuisness and Canadian "Marketing boards" are distorting the food markets much the same way various subsidies and price support schemes distort other markets. At least with food and water, you have a limited ability to take matters into your own hands (rain barrels and "victory gardens"; depending on local bylaws, facilities, squeamishness and skill you might even be able to raise rabbits or other small rodents for meat).

Small solar panels *might* allow you to disconnect from the grid, but you will have to accept either paying a huge premium or a decades long payback time for any solar system capable of actually powering a house (assuming you are not demanding taxpayer subsidies. A full up solar roof array and all the control electronics and power inverters can set you back anything from $50K on up. If you are not in a favourable location the amount increases astronomically, and we havn't even added any sort of power storage capabilities either).

Someone or something (money) is pointing the talented lawyers and lobbyists in the wrong direction.

Exactly.

There are perverse incentives that favour crony capitalism in our society. Jane Jacobs pointed this out in her book "Systems of Survival", and advocated for a system which separated the "producers" from the "guardians", much like ancient Japanese Samurai were forbidden to engage in trade and commerce.
 
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