Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Halifax Tar]

If one were the type to read tea leaves, how about this for one?

Again, this sounds MIGHTY civil for one of the "I'm a feminist PM who doesn't like strong women telling me I can't do stuff" victims. A number of folks all over suggested right after she was punted that she'd make a better PM. Mind you, that was after all the memes just after her appointment saying all she'd ever done was lawyer & prosecute, so politics can be fickle

JWR would be a solid choice. Does she want the job ?

 

[The Bread Guy]

JWR would be a solid choice. Does she want the job ?

Good question. I think she's smart enough to read the writing on the wall re: the party's fate right now, and at around 50 years old or so, could also be a contender by the time people get tired of Team Blue down the road. Crazier has happened, right?

 

[Jarnhamar]

JWR would be a solid choice. Does she want the job ?

It will be ironic if Mr "Harris not becoming president is a setback for women's progress" doesn't support a female LPC party leader.

 

[The Bread Guy]

It will be ironic if Mr "Harris not becoming president is a setback for women's progress" doesn't support a female LPC party leader.

While the irony would be sweet, if he was at ANY level of classy, he wouldn't necessarily endorse any contender - oh, yeah, right ....

 

[Navy_Pete]

Expect a court challenge if Justin Trudeau puts Parliament on pause

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should get ready to go to court if he prorogues Parliament to dodge an expected non-confidence vote in January

nationalpost.com

Some snips:


In a landmark fall 2019 ruling, the U.K. Supreme Court put the brakes on then prime minister Boris Johnson’s bid to silence Parliamentary debate ahead of the Oct. 31 Brexit deadline.

The court’s unanimous 11-0 decision nullified Johnson’s earlier request to the Queen to put a five-week pause on Parliament at the height of a political crisis over Britain’s imminent withdrawal from the EU. The prime minister and his fellow MPs went back to work the next day.

“If (Canada’s) Parliament were prorogued in such a way as to escape accountability, and prevent Parliament from playing its constitutional role, then that would be constitutionally problematic.”

Carleton University professor Philippe Lagassé, who studies executive power in Westminster states, says he agrees.

“I could see a similar challenge in Canada,” Lagassé said in an email. “The underlying issue would be comparable… would a prorogation frustrate an unwritten principle of democracy?”

Constitutional scholar Stéphane Sérafin said the challenge would likely be put to the Federal Court, which hears disputes over the federal government’s lawmaking powers.

“Once (jurisdiction) is established, the court could grant declaratory relief on the terms it considers appropriate,” said Sérafin.

“An appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada is not necessarily going to happen because it needs to grant leave.”

UK doesn't have a written constitution, and this prorogation is arguably a routine one for the party in power to change over to a new leader. Just because it's a westminster parliament doesn't mean it sets any kind of precedence in Canada. Phillippe Lagasse is a policy wonk, not a lawyer.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

It will be a brand spanking new session. One of the first orders of business will be appropriation bills that are mandatory confidence votes. I see the Opposition pulling the trigger as soon as one of those votes comes up in the House.

And Singh will say that the financial needs of the country (ie appropriations) trump the need to bring down the government....

 

[The Bread Guy]

And Singh will say that the financial needs of the country (ie appropriations) trump the need to bring down the government....

This. And his pension - be still my cynical heart ...

 

[dapaterson]

And Singh will say that the financial needs of the country (ie appropriations) trump the need to bring down the government....

I see what you did there...

 

[The Bread Guy]

A couple of hot takes from the right ....

Emergency Dispatch: On the extraordinary self regard of this absolute Muppet

The PM’s ambition was in the driver’s seat until sometime in the last few days, and that ambition came before everything — the good of the Liberal party and the good of Canada very much included.

www.readtheline.ca

The Line also archived here if link doesn't work.

Trudeau just plunged Canada further into chaos.

Trudeau triggers a Liberal leadership race and plunges Canada into deep uncertainty at a moment of national crisis. Enough. Election now.

michellerempelgarner.substack.com

Rempel also archived here if link doesn't work.

 

[vonGarvin]

This. And his pension - be still my cynical heart ...

He's eligible for his pension some time in February, so he'll be fine.

 

[Remius]

Good question. I think she's smart enough to read the writing on the wall re: the party's fate right now, and at around 50 years old or so, could also be a contender by the time people get tired of Team Blue down the road. Crazier has happened, right?

I think you’ll see a few throw their hats in the ring to gain more name recognition, not necessarily to win but it sets up for the next run.

 

[Halifax Tar]

He's eligible for his pension some time in February, so he'll be fine.

Phew, I was worried about that.

 

[RangerRay]

Ugh.

This is what I was “ugh”ing about:

Wildest thing I read today was Ret. General Rick Hillier endorsing Christy Clark on Twitter for liberal leader.....like what a weird time line

 

[Fishbone Jones]

He's eligible for his pension some time in February, so he'll be fine.

Feb 25

 

[The Bread Guy]

I think you’ll see a few throw their hats in the ring to gain more name recognition, not necessarily to win but it sets up for the next run.

And if the experience of some parties post-big time loss/decimation, combined with possible splintering within the party, who knows how many leadership sweepstakes will happen before the election after this one? Or before the election where Canada’s tired of Team Blue?

 

[brihard]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

@brihard shush. Using logic and reasoning that is contrary to the "selfish greed" narrative is a bootable offence.

 

[Lumber]

I think you’ll see a few throw their hats in the ring to gain more name recognition, not necessarily to win but it sets up for the next run.

I'm trying to imagine why any person with serious potential would voluntarily sign up to be the captain of this sinking ship. Two type of people come to mind, but I think the 2nd will be more likely. First, someone extremely naive who has drank too much coolaid and doesn't spend enough time on Twitter to see how hated the LPC has become and genuinely believe they can bail out the ship. Second, is someone who doesn't actually care that their stint at prime minister will be short lived. They will go in the annals of history as one of Canada's prime ministers, and will likely be set up well into the future for having "taken the bullet" for the party. (this is assuming an election doesn't happen before they are sworn in as PM)

 

[daftandbarmy]

I'm trying to imagine why any person with serious potential would voluntarily sign up to be the captain of this sinking ship.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Who the heck is Frank Baylis?