Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Jarnhamar]

The GG is also within her rights to ignore the letter.

I'm sure she will be super impartial on the matter

 

[Remius]

I'm sure she will be super impartial on the matter

She probably will. But I doubt that those that want JT gone will grasp that.

 

[Jarnhamar]

She probably will. But I doubt that those that want JT gone will grasp that.

Do you want JT gone?

 

[Remius]

Do you want JT gone?

I should rephrase that as some that want him gone won’t grasp that.

I see nothing that would indicate she would not be impartial in her role.

 

[Jarnhamar]

That's fair. I'm basing my assumption of her Fergus/Johnston level of impartialness on what appears to be her (imo) really enjoying the wining dining and travel aspect of her job.

Her role and expenditures don't seem like a big hit with many Canadians, and a newly elected Pierre Poilievre may want to start off his "Common Sense" rule with some low hanging fruit.

 

[Remius]

That's fair. I'm basing my assumption of her Fergus/Johnston level of impartialness on what appears to be her (imo) really enjoying the wining dining and travel aspect of her job.

Her role and expenditures don't seem like a big hit with many Canadians, and a newly elected Pierre Poilievre may want to start off his "Common Sense" rule with some low hanging fruit.

Expenditures on food and what not do not equate to the partisan antics of Fergus. A bit of a false equivalency I would say.

what would be the constitutional impetus to dissolve parliament? And remember the precedent set on prorogation set in 2008 that was used to avoid a confidence motion. I suspect it will be used this time.

She won’t be making her decisions in a vacuum

 

[brihard]

I'm sure she will be super impartial on the matter

She will. Poillievre’s letter is calling on her to do something it’s not her place to unilaterally do. The constitutional conventions around the role and accepted use of powers by the GG are very well established. And he knows that. But most of his supporters either don’t know or don’t care. Theatrics again.

 

[Haggis]

So Singh is pension eligible on Feb 25, 2025. What about the rest of his MPs? Will they vote with him to bring down the government early and forfeit their pensions?

 

[Jarnhamar]

A bit of a false equivalency I would say.

But most of his supporters either don’t know or don’t care. Theatrics again.

Okay, I'll concede.

But I'm going to study our constitution and come back with some smarty pants answers

 

[dimsum]

That's fair. I'm basing my assumption of her Fergus/Johnston level of impartialness on what appears to be her (imo) really enjoying the wining dining and travel aspect of her job.

Her role and expenditures don't seem like a big hit with many Canadians, and a newly elected Pierre Poilievre may want to start off his "Common Sense" rule with some low hanging fruit.

Does the GG get any different meals than the PM or whoever is flying on 412 or 437 Sqn aircraft?

My point being that if Poilievre wants to cut costs, is he willing to cut his own meals as well?

 

[dapaterson]

So Singh is pension eligible on Feb 25, 2025. What about the rest of his MPs? Will they vote with him to bring down the government early and forfeit their pensions?

Six years. Three percent per year. Can't draw until he's 65 years old.

 

[Remius]

Six years. Three percent per year. Can't draw until he's 65 years old.

I really don’t think his pension is a factor but his party though…

 

[Jarnhamar]

Does the GG get any different meals than the PM or whoever is flying on 412 or 437 Sqn aircraft?

Can 412 and 437sqn members order $1500 beef wellington meals on a flight?

My point being that if Poilievre wants to cut costs, is he willing to cut his own meals as well?

I agree PP should be willing to cut his the governments ability to pay for a single meal that would feed an average Canadian for over a month.

 

[dimsum]

Can 412 and 437sqn members order $1500 beef wellington meals on a flight?

Probably not, but that’s not the comparison I was making.

My comparison was the passengers (e.g. the PM), not the crew.

I agree PP should be willing to cut his the governments ability to pay for a single meal that would feed an average Canadian for over a month.

I would love to see the PM eat an IMP, sans heater bc not allowed on aircraft.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... I agree PP should be willing to cut his the governments ability to pay for a single meal that would feed an average Canadian for over a month.

Agree in general, but he may find it hard to entertain other fellow leaders while at summits in big, expensive cities, but I'm sure the others will appreciate being taken to the local McDonald's or chip wagon And we'll see how often PP is willing to fly commercial if/when he becomes PM, since others elsewhere on the threads have pointed this out.

It's like fixing up older official residences - nobody wants to do it because anybody on the other side'll say "hey, lookit all the crazy money they're spending on their own houses when so many Canadians can't afford their own."

#WhyWeCan'tHaveNiceThings

 

[brihard]

I would love to see the PM eat an IMP, sans heater bc not allowed on aircraft.

“Rock or something”

 

[dimsum]

Agree in general, but he may find it hard to entertain other fellow leaders while at summits in big, expensive cities, but I'm sure the others will appreciate being taken to the local McDonald's or chip wagon And we'll see how often PP is willing to fly commercial if/when he becomes PM, since others elsewhere on the threads have pointed this out.

It's like fixing up older official residences - nobody wants to do it because anybody on the other side'll say "hey, lookit all the crazy money they're spending on their own houses when so many Canadians can't afford their own."

#WhyWeCan'tHaveNiceThings

Almost like there’s a cost to do business.

 

[dimsum]

“Rock or something”

Also not allowed on aircraft

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Agree in general, but he may find it hard to entertain other fellow leaders while at summits in big, expensive cities, but I'm sure the others will appreciate being taken to the local McDonald's or chip wagon And we'll see how often PP is willing to fly commercial if/when he becomes PM, since others elsewhere on the threads have pointed this out.

It's like fixing up older official residences - nobody wants to do it because anybody on the other side'll say "hey, lookit all the crazy money they're spending on their own houses when so many Canadians can't afford their own."

#WhyWeCan'tHaveNiceThings

There is a difference between being frugal and being cheap.

Canadians often can't tell the difference.

 

[QV]

Probably not, but that’s not the comparison I was making.

My comparison was the passengers (e.g. the PM), not the crew.


I would love to see the PM eat an IMP, sans heater bc not allowed on aircraft.

Now that is just being dumb. Nobody expects travelling dignitaries to eat cold IMPs on a flight. And nobody thinks $1500 Beef Wellington is a reasonable expenditure of public money for a mid flight meal. I think we can get to a common sense answer here.

And that includes how many times the PM gets to take public expense paid personal travel for holidays.