The viability of a massive CF intranet

[Inch]

I think the idea is that if you do it manually, you know what's being sent. If it's automatic, you don't know what's being sent. Keep in mind that posting messages, course loading messages, etc are sent via email and they're all Protected A documents because of the service number. I think it makes perfect sense that we can't set it up to automatically forward that kind of stuff to an unsecure computer.

Just my $0.02

Cheers

 

[Korus]

I guess I'm set, just as soon as the Army starts issuing laptops to corporals, then.

Join INT..  ;D

Even if you set up a rule for e-mail forwarding via outlook (not via the actual e-mail server), don't you still have to physically open outlook (or at least log into your DIN account) before it will forward these e-mails?

I know it's a pain for me, because I have several important e-mails I need to attend to in my DIN account, but I'm only parading at the home unit every other week or so at the moment (I'm on a driver wheeled at a different armouries)

 

[bossi]

re: e-mail at home

I realise there's a move afoot to get rid of it, but ... sometimes reality doesn't perfectly match what some people would like it to be ...

For those occasions when you can't have access to a DND computer, but need to receive/send e-mails for military-related purposes ... there's "IMS Visual Mail":
https://imsvisualmail.dnd.ca/eng/index.htm

In layman's terms, it's kinda like "military hotmail" - you can access from anywhere, instead of only from DND terminals (extremely useful for CCPLO's and CIMIC, especially during dom ops).  And, it's also much cheaper than issuing EVERYBODY with a DND computer ...

 

[Acorn]

Join INT..   ;D

Int Cpls get issued laptops? Man, I really missed out!

Acorn

 

[pbi]

bossi:

re: e-mail at home

I realise there's a move afoot to get rid of it, but ... sometimes reality doesn't perfectly match what some people would like it to be ...

For those occasions when you can't have access to a DND computer, but need to receive/send e-mails for military-related purposes ... there's "IMS Visual Mail":
https://imsvisualmail.dnd.ca/eng/index.htm

In layman's terms, it's kinda like "military hotmail" - you can access from anywhere, instead of only from DND terminals (extremely useful for CCPLO's and CIMIC, especially during dom ops). And, it's also much cheaper than issuing EVERYBODY with a DND computer ...

What do you mean "there's a move afoot.." Who would be doing this, and why? Perhaps it makes sense in the NDHQ environmnt where everybody lives within 30 minutes of the HQ, but as I explained in our Bde we could have key appointments living all over our Bde AO, and we also travel quite a bit, so being able to access e-mail away from a CF termina important for us. Cheers.

 

[bossi]

What do you mean "there's a move afoot.." Who would be doing this, and why? Perhaps it makes sense in the NDHQ environmnt where everybody lives within 30 minutes of the HQ, but as I explained in our Bde we could have key appointments living all over our Bde AO, and we also travel quite a bit, so being able to access e-mail away from a CF termina important for us. Cheers.

Come on now - don't encourage me ... I'm trying to be a good boy (... for a change ...).
Certain people think that there is no need for IMS Visual Mail - I'm struggling to avoid slagging them in public, since that will only get their hackles up ... so, I'm trying - oh, so hard - to try and focus on the continuing, real, operational requirements for this service (i.e. honey, vinegar - you know the shtick ...).

Obviously, I'm way too far down the food chain to have any real effect, but ... hope springs eternal.
Within the system, I've documented the REQUIREMENT for it.
However, it's like so many things ...
There's probably a general somewhere who would recognise and agree, but ... first it has to get by all those majors who think they're oh, so much smarter ...
("... must ... control ... fist ... of ... death ...")

 

[pbi]

Ahhhh-the cyberwienies? The Uebergeeken?Those Who Know Best For All? If it doesn't matter in NDHQ: it doesn't matter? Is that what you'r subtly trying to suggest?

 

[bossi]

Ahhhh-the cyberwienies? The Uebergeeken?Those Who Know Best For All? If it doesn't matter in NDHQ: it doesn't matter? Is that what you'r subtly trying to suggest?

(yes - a la Dilbert's "Mordac, Preventer Of Knowledge/Information Technology" ...)

... mmmmuuuussstttt ... ccccconnntttrrrolll ... fffiiiissstttt ... oofffff ... ddddddddeeaatthh ...

 

[Spr.Earl]

ROFMAO  ;D
I can't believe how people can get so upset over the internet/intrenet etc.
I still don't have DND email addy as I refuse to use it as 90% of the mail is rubbish as I have witnessed from fellow members in box's.

At home we first got on line some time in 96 and I must admit I got quite addicted to it after coming home in 97 and it got worse when I found out I could play games then all of a sudden I had to use a computer at work to do the daily log,daily fuel reports,machinery reports etc.

I hate the F'n thing as it has created more paper work now than before when we did everything by long hand also it waste's paper!!

Now I only come on line to have a look see here and play the odd game .

I'd hate to see what would happen if all of a sudden if  it all went down!

 

[pbi]

ROFMAO ;D
I can't believe how people can get so upset over the internet/intrenet etc.
I still don't have DND email addy as I refuse to use it as 90% of the mail is rubbish as I have witnessed from fellow members in box's.

I guess it depends on your situation. As I mentioned above, because we are so dispersed in 38 CBG we find it useful, especially being able to send stuff to people's homes or offices. As COS, I can turn around an issue with a unit CO much faster that way than waiting for them to come in to the Armoury, or sending them a letter, or trying to catch them on the telephone. Most of our COs have given us their home and work e-mails, which makes things easier for us to communicate with them. I do agree that there is a lot of rubbish on the net: this is not the fault of the system but of the people who send rubbish. Cheers.

 

[Spr.Earl]

I see you point but at my level I have no need and my Boss just phone's me or just sends me via other means.
My point was those who are complaining are at my level yet I bet I'am above thier level

 

[Korus]

Int Cpls get issued laptops? Man, I really missed out!

To be fair, I've only been issued laptops on course, when we need them to do a fair ammount of writing for country studies, etc.. Or for the common evening AFV recognition study groups, when we're trying to memorize sick ammounts of kit. Good times, eh?  ;D

 

[garb811]

Michael:  Most ISPs provide email addresses when you have them host a website so why not get a slick "webmaster@calgaryhighlanders.com" as a solution?  Looks professional, solves the problem and it's easily transferable to a permanent webmaster, if/when one is found.

 

[Acorn]

To be fair, I've only been issued laptops on course, when we need them to do a fair ammount of writing for country studies, etc.. Or for the common evening AFV recognition study groups, when we're trying to memorize sick ammounts of kit. Good times, eh?   ;D

We made due with communal desktops and <gasp> paper books of recognition photos (actually, my 5A included typing, not keyboarding). But then, I guess I qualify as near-Jurassic. To be fair, the trade is much more literate in depth than it used to be.

Acorn

 

[Scratch_043]

No, it makes sense for security reasons that we can't do it at home. It's too bad, because most of my mail is related to the regimental website - ie public information. I have my personal email address as the contact info for our unofficial regimental website - would look more professional to have my military email addie there, but checking it once a week or every two weeks would be even more unprofessional, so I guess I'll go with what I got.

If they do upgrade the system someday, maybe they can offer more security options, and allow internet access to emails specifically encoded as not Protected by the sender.

Michael,one thing that you could do is to get a seperate address for the mail related to the regimental website, and call it something like "name of Regiment@gmail.com" or something. if you need an invite to use gmail, PM me another email, and I can send you the invite.

Cheers,
Nicholas P. Cressman