The Russian Military Merged Thread- Navy

[Springroll]

Can't access that part of the Jane's site without being on a DND computer.
I tried and tried before when I was at home trying to prep for my briefing on the Oscar 2...really ticked me off.

I love the Typhoon, but the Oscar 2 is still my fave!

 

[aesop081]

Can't access that part of the Jane's site without being on a DND computer.

Sure you can. Your course staff should be able to give you the username and password available to all CF members who need to access Jane's for work.

 

[Springroll]

They did give it to us, but none of us were able to access the info from home.
It only allowed us to log in from the fleet school computer with the login name and password.

Even tried on here last night when HFXCrow posted the link, but didn't work 

Doesn't matter now anyways, course is done!

 

[Cloud Cover]

I think you have to log into tha D.I.N. first, then copy and paste tha url into your browser, it will then ask you to authenticate> input authentication> then page will open.

 

[NCRCrow]

you should be able to access thru the WWW at home

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Works from home for me.

Go to www.janes.com then click login and try the user/password you got from the DIN/DWAN it should work.

 

[CougarKing]

Now why does Assad want more Russian weapons when his last network of Russian SAMs weren't even able to protect his nuke facility from an Israeli air strike last year?

And as for the KUZNETSOV, isn't she Russia's only carrier? Her sister ship the VARYAG is in China, IIRC. (www.varyagworld.com)

http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=5706

Russia sends aircraft carrier to Syria

21.08.2008
The Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is ready to head from Murmansk towards the Mediterranean and the Syrian port of Tartus. The mission comes after Syrian President Bashar Assad said he is open for a Russian base in the area.

The Admiral Kuznetsov, part of the Northern Fleet and Russia’s only aircraft carrier, will head a Navy mission to the area. The mission will also include the missile cruiser Moskva and several submarines, Newsru.com reports.

President Assad in meetings in Moscow this week expressed support to Russia’s intervention in South Ossetia and Georgia. He also expressed interest in the establishment of Russian missile air defence facilities on his land.

 

[Mike Baker]

And as for the KUZNETSOV, isn't she Russia's only carrier?

Yup, she is.

And apparently Syria is willing to let the Russians have a base in the region. I'll look for the link where I read that.

-Deadpan

 

[George Wallace]

Yup, she is.

And apparently Syria is willing to let the Russians have a base in the region. I'll look for the link where I read that.

-Deadpan

It was in the very first sentence of the original post.

So the Russians can call a coup on the Missile Shield Front......... They have permission to put one up, right at the 'launch site'.    >

 

[aesop081]

CD,

This is politicaly motivated on the part of both nations. Assad is not looking for more russian weapons but rather Moscow's support and influence. The Russians , i am sure, are more than happy to oblidge as they seek to once again be a major player. What better than to establish a base in the ME and stick close to the prime US area of interest.

As for being their only carrier, well, as stated in the article, yes it is. That in itself is not significant. Russian naval strategy does not rely on carrier battle groups like the US Navy does.

 

[George Wallace]

I'm sure that there is a little rejoicing going on.  Murmansk or the Mediterranean..........Cold Arctic winter or a warm Mediterranean winter............

 

[Eye In The Sky]

The mission will also include the missile cruiser Moskva and several submarines, Newsru.com reports.

Not much of an escort force....well compared to the US Navy.  Atleast on the surface-side?

 

[aesop081]

Not much of an escort force....well compared to the US Navy.  Atleast on the surface-side?

Read my comment above. There was a time not so long ago, where the Soviet Navy did not care much for having a blue-water surface fleet. The Russian Navy continues that tradition.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Considering Russian carriers are cruisers in their own right, why do they need a sizeable escort force Eye?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Read my comment above. There was a time not so long ago, where the Soviet Navy did not care much for having a blue-water surface fleet. The Russian Navy continues that tradition.

I guess I am just surprised a nation would send their only carrier off to play with a surface escort of...1.  But I am not up on Russian Naval Strategy (or lack of)  8)

So this is typical of them.  As a non-SME, it would lead me to think they just don't have the assets to send. (for various reasons)

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Considering Russian carriers are cruisers in their own right, why do they need a sizeable escort force Eye?

I don't know, thats why I am curious.  My knowledge on this is weak, so I am here to gleam info from you folks.

 

[aesop081]

it would lead me to think they just don't have the assets to send. (for various reasons)

I'm willing to be that it is the case but that it is not the driving factor here. My take is that this is purely political so it doesnt require a large deployment. The Kuznetsov is not that significant a weapon anyways.

The subs on the other hand.........

 

[Eye In The Sky]

I'm willing to be that it is the case but that it is not the driving factor here. My take is that this is purely political so it doesnt require a large deployment. The Kuznetsov is not that significant a weapon anyways.

The subs on the other hand.........

Seen.  Regardless, they've been getting into the news alot as of late.  Cuba...Georgia...and now this.  Lots of peacocking going on it seems.  I guess Ivan wants to get into the headlines again.

 

[aesop081]

Seen.  Regardless, they've been getting into the news alot as of late.  Cuba...Georgia...and now this.  Lots of peacocking going on it seems.  I guess Ivan wants to get into the headlines again.

Syria has always been Soviet / Russian client state anyways, so this is not all that surprising. It will also give Israel at least a moment of pause before striking there again.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

The subs on the other hand.........

Oh come on now, Cdn Aviator.  EVERYONE knows that the Cold War is over and we don't ever have to worry about ASW again... :