The Russian Military Merged Thread- Air Force

[stegner]

From http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/11/russian.bomber/index.html Accessed Feb 11, 2008

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- American fighter jets intercepted two Russian bombers, one of which buzzed a U.S. aircraft carrier in the western Pacific over the weekend, U.S. military officials told CNN Monday.


A Tupolev-95 flies over the Izu Islands, just south of Tokyo, Saturday.

One of them twice flew about 2,000 feet over the deck of the USS Nimitz Saturday while another flew about 50 miles away, officials said. Two others were at least 100 miles away, the military reported.

U.S. Defense officials said four F/A-18A fighter jets from the Nimitz were in the air.

The Russians and the U.S. cartrier did not exchange verbal communications. Video Watch U.S. aircraft carrier USS Nimitz »

Four turboprop Tupolev-95 Bear bombers took off from Ukrainka air base, in Russia's Far East, in the middle of the night, Japanese officials told The Associated Press, adding that one of the jets violated Japanese airspace.

Russian bombers have been making flights over the western Pacific for several months. In September, two U.S. F-15 fighters scrambled to intercept a plane that came within 50 miles of the coastline.
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There have been eight incidents off Alaska since July. Among the latest, on September 5, six F-15s from Elmendorf Air Force Base, adjacent to Anchorage, Alaska, intercepted six Russian bombers about 50 miles from the northwest coast of Alaska.

Two similar incidents occurred in August, one near Cape Lisburne, Alaska, and the other near Cold Bay, Alaska, west of the Aleutian Islands.

 

[aesop081]

Nothing realy new here........

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Maybe they where sightseeing

;D


I crack myself up

 

[karl28]

       
  Those crazy Russians what will they do next . ;D

 

[aesop081]

       
  Those crazy Russians what will they do next . ;D

The same stuff they've been doing since the cold war has been "over"

 

[CougarKing]

The same stuff they've been doing since the cold war has been "over"

Ahemm...COUGH, COUGH: http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/70021.0.html

 

[vonGarvin]

I say "Bring back the Cold War".  This whole force generation nonsence and "TF this" and "TF that" is driving me insane.  Screw "Direct Actions" and all that.  Form up two up, one back, one in reserve, bags of smoke and HE on the objective, and let's give'er.  Man, this Putin fella just seems to be teasing us. 

I say: Bring back 4 CMBG, post it in eastern Germany (near a nice little village with some good brews) and let's wait for the bombs to fall.  If only the Russians would indeed point some missiles at Ukraine, then we could really see a good old fashioned arms race again!  After all, COIN is just too difficult for me to wrap my head around.  Total War is where it's at ;D


:warstory:

 

[aesop081]

Ahemm...COUGH, COUGH: http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/70021.0.html

Your point ?

 

[aesop081]

I say: Bring back 4 CMBG, CIBG

;D

 

[vonGarvin]

CIBG?  Heck, I'll one-up ya':
Bring back 1 Cdn Div! 

BooYeah!

 

[Bandit1]

Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers
By LOLITA C. BALDOR – Feb 12, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.

A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

The Saturday incident, which never escalated beyond the flyover, comes amid heightened tensions between the United States and Russia over U.S. plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.

In Moscow, the RIA Novosti news agency reported Tuesday that the head of the Russian Air Force information service, Alexander Drobyshevsky, said the Russian bombers "were carrying out their assigned flights" and in strict compliance with the international airspace rules. "We are surprised by the noise that has been raised (over the flights)," he was quoted as saying.

Such Russian encounters with U.S. ships were common during the Cold War, but have been rare since then. Russia revived the Soviet-era practice of long-range patrols by strategic bombers over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans last August.

The bombers were among four Russian Tupolev 95s launched from Ukrainka in the middle of the night, including one that Japanese officials say violated their country's airspace over an uninhabited island south of Tokyo.

U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.

As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz.

At least two U.S. F/A-18 Hornets trailed the bomber as it came in low over the Nimitz twice, while one or two of the other U.S. fighters followed the second bomber as it circled.

The official said there were no verbal communications between the U.S. and the Russians, and the Pentagon has not heard of any protests being filed by the United States. Historically, diplomatic protests were not filed in such incidents because they were so common during the Cold War era.

This is the first time Russian Tupolevs have flown over or interacted with a U.S. carrier since 2004.

In that incident, a Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on Jan. 29, 2004. Since then, however, relations between the U.S. and Russia have deteriorated to their worst point since the Cold War, largely due to the United States' plans to put a radar system in the Czech Republic and 10 missile defense interceptors in Poland.

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran. But the Kremlin has condemned the proposal, saying it would threaten Russia's security.

"We are being forced to take retaliatory steps," said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who also warned that a new arms race is under way.

Japan, meanwhile, filed a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Tokyo after Saturday's incident, saying that one of the Russian bombers crossed into Japanese airspace for three minutes. Russia has denied there was an intrusion.

So just out of curiousity...would we ever allow a Bear to overfly 4 Wing?  ;D

 

[SeaKingTacco]

So just out of curiousity...would we ever allow a Bear to overfly 4 Wing? 

Overflying an aircraft carrier in international waters is much different than overflying an airbase within sovereign airspace.

 

[Bandit1]

Agree completely...I was just trying to be sarcastic...

On a serious note though - what if the Bear was armed?  Would this not constitute a serious threat?

 

[tomahawk6]

Agree completely...I was just trying to be sarcastic...

On a serious note though - what if the Bear was armed?  Would this not constitute a serious threat?

Normally air defense commands assume the aircraft is armed and were we at war the bomber would be engaged long before it reached a carrier or land. The USN knows what type of cruise missile the bomber carries and tries to engage before it comes into range of its weapons.

 

[CougarKing]

Here we go again:

The Russians are it again, and this should be the third time since the beginning of the year that Russian bombers have buzzed US or other NATO members' forces, and at least the second time this year that bombers have buzzed a USN carrier.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23490503/

Russian bomber intercepted near U.S. ship
Pentagon: Incident not a threat; it's the second in a month
Reuters
updated 4:42 p.m. PT, Wed., March. 5, 2008

WASHINGTON - A Russian bomber aircraft approached a U.S. aircraft carrier off the Korean coast Wednesday and was intercepted by American fighter jets — the second such incident in less than a month, U.S. defense officials said.

According to the U.S. officials, a Russian bomber came within three to five nautical miles and flew 2,000 feet above the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier and its accompanying ships.

Two U.S. F/A-18 fighters were launched to intercept the Russian aircraft and escort it out of the area, according to one defense official.

Russian bombers over the past year have increased their flights near U.S. territory and U.S. naval assets, demonstrating their long-range strike capability.

In February, two Russian bombers approached the Nimitz near Japan and one flew over the carrier, escorted by a U.S. fighter jet. That was the first Russian overflight of a U.S. carrier since 2004.


Those operations come as Russian officials say they will revive some of the military power and reach allowed to collapse with the Soviet Union.

U.S. defense officials Wednesday said they did not consider the Russian bomber flight a threat or concern.


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[CougarKing]

Your point ?

My point was that maybe this thread and the ones below should all be merged into one thread dealing with increased Russian military activity- especially with regards to those bomber incursions.

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/71526.0.html

http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/70021.0.html

 

[CougarKing]

The character Yuri Orlov from the movie "Lord of War" comes to mind.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351398,00.html

MIAMI — Federal officials say a Florida man is charged with illegally trying to broker the sale of Russian military aircraft without a proper State Department license.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say phone conversations and e-mails between Peter Spitz and an informant indicate he was working to sell 10 helicopters for $750,000 each.

The informant was pretending to be acting for officials in Zimbabwe.

An ICE affidavit says Spitz had more than 30 Russian military helicopters and a jet fighter in Kyrgyzstan, a former Soviet republic.

The 70-year-old man is scheduled to have a bond hearing Friday in Fort Lauderdale. His two attorneys did not respond Tuesday to e-mails seeking comment

 

[Yrys]

I liked that movie (not sure about some of the acting, thought...), I was wondering how much of it could be from reality ....

 

[Redeye]

It's not far off reality at all - the character Yuri Orlov is a composite of a number of people, primarily a Russian arms dealer named Viktor Bout.

 

[Niteshade]

I love that movie.

Specifically the slow motion scene of the AK firing, and as each rounds is expelled, a cash register noise sounds.

Lovely.

Nites