The "Occupy" Movement

[Robert0288]

A good friend of mine was in Ottawa over the weekend with some friends.  After dining (and drinking) at D'Arcy Magee's (or however it's called), they headed down to the Occupy site, "for the lulz".  In conversation with one occupier, they got her to say the following on her own (and using Socratic Dialectic, I suppose):

(She):  "Everyone should, like, grow their own food and stuff, etc"
(They):  "Fair enough.  What if someone's plot is struck by lightning?"
(She):  "Then we help them and give them some of ours."
(They):  "What if someone won't work because they realise that they can get stuff without putting any effort into it?"
(She):  "Then we don't give them any"

...

(True story)

That sounds about right.

Next to go, Ottawa?  Please let it be so.

*edited, miss read intend due to lack of sleep, comment no longer relevant*

 

[HavokFour]

Next to go, Ottawa?  Please let it be so.

Wish granted.  ;D

NCC to evict Occupy Ottawa from Confederation Park

 

[jasonf6]

Wish granted.  ;D

NCC to evict Occupy Ottawa from Confederation Park

Sweet.  It got to the point where I couldn't tell homeless people from the "occupiers" anymore.  And judging by post by Technoviking most of them don't have a clue.

 

[HavokFour]

"Progressive Stack"

 

[vonGarvin]

Fucking racists.  I cannot believe that anyone would take that shit seriously, and with a straight face.

 

[observor 69]

A good friend of mine was in Ottawa over the weekend with some friends.  After dining (and drinking) at D'Arcy Magee's (or however it's called), they headed down to the Occupy site, "for the lulz".  In conversation with one occupier, they got her to say the following on her own (and using Socratic Dialectic, I suppose):

From what I have seen in the media the "Occupiers" started with and have since drawn a large number of idiots. It would appear the media take pains to find these idiots to ask them to verbalize what the movement is about.  :

And on the other hand I have listened to interviews with Occupiers, from various locations,who are obviously educated, thoughtful and able to articulate the basic points they are trying to present to the public.

Your choice which one you want to listen too.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Your choice which one you want to listen too.

How about "None of the above for 100, Alex"?

 

[observor 69]

How about "None of the above for 100, Alex"?

:rofl:

 

[a_majoor]

From what I have seen in the media the "Occupiers" started with and have since drawn a large number of idiots. It would appear the media take pains to find these idiots to ask them to verbalize what the movement is about.  :

And on the other hand I have listened to interviews with Occupiers, from various locations,who are obviously educated, thoughtful and able to articulate the basic points they are trying to present to the public.

Your choice which one you want to listen too.

The media is also populated by idiots, from the CTV reporter standing in front of a CUPE banner while saying the Occupy movement is "leaderless and spontaneous", to AP trying desperately to put Democrat party endorsements of the #occupy movement down the memory hole.

And another #occupyfail

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/11/20/berkeley-woman-assaulted-for-not-joining-ows-protest/

Berkeley woman assaulted for NOT joining OWS protest

Looks like the “Join us or else!” mentality is growing violent at Occupy Cal in Berkeley, where an (apparent) OWS protester assaulted a female student when she gave the wrong answer about going to the Occupation protest:

Man throws aluminum water bottle at UC Berkeley student’s face

A man threw an aluminum water bottle at a UC Berkeley student Thursday evening on campus, causing minor injuries to the victim’s face.

At about 5:09 p.m., the female student was approached by a man at “the northeast exterior of the Haas Pavilion,” according to a UCPD crime alert. The man asked the suspect if she was going to the protest on Sproul Plaza, and when the victim answered “no,” the suspect yelled at her.

“People like you are the reason that California is in debt,” he said, according to the crime alert.

The suspect then threw a full aluminum water bottle at the victim’s face. The victim then called UCPD and refused medical treatment for the bruise on her cheek. UCPD officers responded to the scene and checked the area, but could not locate the suspect.

The suspect was described as a white or Hispanic male in his early 20s, wearing a brown and green knit cap with earflaps and strings, a black coat and dark pants.

A few additional details not spelled out explicitly in the article:

• Thursday at 5pm was the moment at which the Occupy Cal rally was happening in Sproul Plaza, so the “protest” mentioned in the article was the Occupy protest.
• The incident happened just 200 yards from the site of the protest, within earshot.
• The suspect description matched the appearance of the typical OWS protester.

We can’t say for absolute sure that the assailant was an Occupier since he hasn’t been caught yet, but considering that he was a young white male wearing dark scruffy clothing yelling about debt in the immediate vicinity of the Occupation protest, I think it’d safe to jump to that conclusion.

Add this to the ever-growing rap sheet of crimes associated with the Occupy movement.

 

[vonGarvin]

Your choice which one you want to listen too.

How about that video, in which people will be allowed to speak according to skin color or gender?  Bigots and hypocrites is what they are.

And for what it's worth, my friend isn't part of the media.  He is an average Joe who spoke with someone who was apparently answering questions.

 

[Jungle]

Next to go, Ottawa?  Please let it be so.

Police and city employees are on scene this morning in Québec City; they told the occupiers to evacuate the site, and began tearing down the installations.

 

[lethalLemon]

In Vancouver, Occupy protesters were served an Eviction injunction by the City Of Vancouver and the municipal courts at approximately 2:00pm, Monday 21 November 2011.

Within the same day, protesters cleaned up a majority of their initial base camp at the Vancouver Art Gallery (which will now need leveling, and re-seed for grass among other things) and immediately moved to the Provincially owned Robson Square, a site which UBC has a Graduate Campus and is actually a Cornerstone Investor for the Robson Square site. Premier Christy Clark and BC Legislature will be filing an injunction first thing in the morning, to the Provincial Courts when they open, to serve the protesters yet another Eviction notice.

Each of the protesters that are found at Robson Square should be billed for all the tax dollars that was wasted (and they're the ones AGAINST wasted tax dollars! idiots!) due to their "occupation" of both the original Vancouver Art Gallery site, and Robson Square, as well as all the overtime for the Vancouver Police officers that were required to standby.

 

[OldSolduer]

Each of the protesters that are found at Robson Square should be billed for all the tax dollars that was wasted (and they're the ones AGAINST wasted tax dollars! idiots!) due to their "occupation" of both the original Vancouver Art Gallery site, and Robson Square, as well as all the overtime for the Vancouver Police officers that were required to standby.

Agreed. They should get an eviction notice and at the same time - the local tax collector, escorted by police, should be handing out the detailed bill for each protestor.
You probably won't get a nickle of revenue, but you could tie it in with renewal of drivers licenses, receipt of welfare etc.

 

[57Chevy]

I wonder what affect all these protest sites had on the local ecomomy like the coffee shops and eateries.

 

[Jungle]

The Québec City municipal Police found a grand total of... six "occupiers" who spent the night in the tents. That includes "some" homeless, according to local news.

Buh-bye !!

 

[a_majoor]

Well maybe he can "redistribute" the $800 million in tax breaks CSL got, if he isn't going to reach for his ATM card first:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/11/18/paul-martin-occupy-wall-street_n_1101886.html?ref=tw

Paul Martin: Former PM Comes Out In Favour Of Occupy Wall Street And 'Redistribution Programs'

The Huffington Post Canada  Joshua Ostroff  First Posted: 11/18/11 02:45 PM ET Updated: 11/21/11 11:27 A

An unexpected voice is joining the chorus of support for the Occupy movement — former prime minister Paul Martin.

Martin says protesters have sparked a global debate that may help save the free market system.

“This idea that [the Occupy protestors] don’t have clear goals, I don’t think anybody buys it,” Martin told The Huffington Post, even as city governments across Canada step up their efforts to end the occupation.

“These young people have touched a chord that is being discussed in every family across North America and in Europe, as well. I think it’s a very important thing they’ve done.”

Since Occupy Wall Street launched in New York two months ago, spreading like wildfire across the Western world, many public figures have come out in support of the protests against the growing gap between rich and poor. Most, however, have been celebrities, such as Gordon Lightfoot joining his daughter at Occupy Toronto and Anne Hathaway marching in yesterday’s Day of Action in New York.

Martin — who enacted controversial social service cuts during his time as Liberal finance minister from 1994 to 2002 — says he’s gone down to Occupy Montreal and spoken to the protestors personally.

“The fact is that the free market system works, but unless governments and people are constantly on the watch out for rampant inequality, unless they understand the need for redistribution programs, unless they understand the need to invest in education and better health care and a better environment,” Martin said, “then effectively the free market system will fall on its own accord.”

These are big statements from the politician who originally proposed the G20, an international organization which has been attracting mass protests since long before Occupy, and who is currently an advisor to the International Monetary Fund, another anti-globalization boogeyman.

“[The protestors] think globalization works against them; the fact is globalization is here. Our economies are more and more integrated. There’s no doubt that when Greece fails or Italy fails the rest of us feel it,” he said. “[But] for people to constantly put pressure on these institutions to deal more expeditiously with fairness and equality is a very good thing. I wouldn’t throw these organizations out, I’d just make them work better.”

Martin added that he considers Canada’s bankers “enlightened” compared to their counterparts in the United States and Europe, whom he deems the real spark for the Occupy movement, especially considering their continued efforts to combat regulation despite the ongoing financial crisis.

“When you look at what’s been said by some of the bankers in New York and Europe, you understand the absolute need for people to stand up and say, ‘no, this is wrong, we’re going to fight for our generation and for the generations to come.’ ”

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Paul Martin is a has been. No one cares what he thinks anymore.

He can go back to playing with his foreign bought, foreign registered Canada Steamship Lines.

He and his bosses at Power Corp are exactly the ones the Occupiers are whining about.

Not that I really care.

 

[OldSolduer]

Well maybe he can "redistribute" the $800 million in tax breaks CSL got, if he isn't going to reach for his ATM card first:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/11/18/paul-martin-occupy-wall-street_n_1101886.html?ref=tw

KAZING!!! Well said.....of course it won't apply to him or CSL will it?

 

[Danjanou]

So the latest from camp loser here in the centre of the known universe is that one of the unwashed has now unchained himself from one of the yurts claiming the Unions are betraying them and want their property back. :

Anyway the wife wants a new shed for the backyard and as it appears my union dues paid for said yurt and it now needs a new home, I took a straw poll around the office  here and five other people ( all union members) said I could have it. Now that's probably quorum in my union based on our last strike vote so I guess it's mine.

Two questions. Do you think it's big enough to hold the patio furniture, lawn mower, and the snow blower? Also anyone available to give me a hand getting it home after work tonight? I really don't think I can get it on the subway.  8)

 

[a_majoor]

More mockery: More Cowbell!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/11/ows-needs-more-cowbell.php