Looks like it. Other media sources are reporting it as well.
The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
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QV
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Well it would seem that guns don’t reduce the rate of violent crime but the statistics imply that maybe reducing a Liberal government might reduce violent crime in Canada.
Violent crime in Canada had been slowly decreasing until Team Trudeau took over at the helm, then things got consistently more violent, the exact opposite of what they espoused their anti-gun approach would achieve.
Kind of awkward if you ask me.
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Canada: violent crime rate 2023 | Statista
The rate of incidents of violent criminal code violations in Canada increased by 51.1 incidents (+3.71 percent) in 2023 in comparison to the previous year.www.statista.com
Winning election slogan backed by stats.
Eaglelord17
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Remember this wasn’t about firearms, this was about distracting the public from the other failures they had (Emergencies act, etc.). By and large it seems to have worked pretty well.
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And they all called the liberals incompetent...
Halifax Tar
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No they're smart, in a devious and nefarious way.
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Political cleverness and competence are most certainly separate tracks - almost the x and y axis for a chart describing governments?
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I see the two as more intertwined than that. Part of what "can" make a good politician/party is the same as what a lot of people hate about politicians; shrewedness. Whether your opinion of it is positive or negative depend entirely on whether they use their cleverness to achieve something you want or not.
Halifax Tar
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I watched the opposition parties have their pressers after this.
I was very disheartened to see them attacking each other for a greater share of the responsibility for the collapse of the amendments.
This was a chance to look united against the LPC and instead they went after each other. Sad. Reminds me of the different firearms people and organizations in Canada.
I was very disheartened to see them attacking each other for a greater share of the responsibility for the collapse of the amendments.
This was a chance to look united against the LPC and instead they went after each other. Sad. Reminds me of the different firearms people and organizations in Canada.
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was the M1 banned by the OIC? I cant keep the bans straight
Halifax Tar
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The M1A and M1 arent the same. M1A = M14 variant. M1 = Garand.
But I think they were both banned in separate amendments.
I stand to be corrected though.
But I think they were both banned in separate amendments.
I stand to be corrected though.
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yeah I have a couple norinco M305/M14's. I guess we have to look at the RCMP page everyday to see whats legal
Haggis
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Because of the RCMP playing fast and loose with the term "variant" you should check every time you go to the range as newly banned firearms are not publicly announced.
Halifax Tar
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I don't think police should be allowed to add or remove banned firearms. The banning of legally obtained property should be debated and weighed by government. Not played fast and loose with by a bunch of unelected public employees.
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I am afraid too, lol. Luckily I dont have to go anywhere to shoot if I want but I have had a few guys bring OIC banned firearms to my place to shoot that they didnt know or check and these were guys still in the military.
Halifax Tar
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The vast vast majority of military and police folks have no exposure to firearms outside their range qualifications. Police arguably a bit more as they carry them all the time.
This is really why alot of this legislation is broken. The expertise is actually outside the government. And the government won't engage them.
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That's why I'm now leaning more toward the two-axes thing - you can have politically clever politicians doing things that are competent or incompetent (as you say, mostly in the eye of the beholder), and you can have political dummies "falling into" competent options or doing incompetent things. If we really want to get esoteric, you could also add a y axis of "effectiveness" - you can have shrewd, competent politicians who don't get the results they seek for all sorts of reasons outside their control.
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To me, there are 3 main organizations; CCFR, CSSA and NFA. I am currently a CCFR member.
CCFR - the first org I’d heard of, basically caught the CCFR Radio show on a Saturday morning while watching Sportsman Channel sometime last spring. Bought a membership and follow their legal challenge stuff semi-closely.
CSSA - this is the org the CITR supports and mentions during their shows. I’ve read a little about their org on their website and have considered getting a membership with them as well.
NFA - I’ve seen one or two advertisements on them and know next to nothing about the group.
Why aren’t they more united?
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Haggis
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I'm a CCFR member. I'm also a CSSA member to maintain my RSO and instructor certifications. I considered joining the NFA but their rhetoric and their now abandoned lawsuit of the CCFR turned me off. It seems that once C-21 passes, the only governmentally recognized sport shooting organization will be the Shooting Federation of Canada (SFC).To me, there are 3 main organizations; CCFR, CSSA and NFA. I am currently a CCFR member.
CCFR - the first org I’d heard of, basically caught the CCFR Radio show on a Saturday morning while watching Sportsman Channel sometime last spring. Bought a membership and follow their legal challenge stuff semi-closely.
CSSA - this is the org the CITR supports and mentions during their shows. I’ve read a little about their org on their website and have considered getting a membership with them as well.
NFA - I’ve seen one or twin advertisements on them and know next to nothing about the group.
Why aren’t they more united?
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SFC is a new one to me. I didn’t know the feds can chose which orgs are legitimate.
Agree on the NFA; the little I did see of theirs put me off.
Agree on the NFA; the little I did see of theirs put me off.
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