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Making matters worse, the package advertised on the site at vimy.ca included Stewart’s service record, which suggests the soldier is deceased.
According to David Thomson, the so-called “Medal Detector” based in St. George, Ont., military service records are only unsealed 20 years after the veteran dies.
Skinner D said:Why are these being sold and why aren't they being returned or a monument of sorts for made from them?
http://www.militarymedals.ca/index.cfm/fuseaction/productDetail/productID/871
I was under the impression selling these was illegal, guess I was wrong.
S.Stewart said:It turns my stomach that some idiot makes such lucrative deals, on things like medals. You have to wonder how they were obtained and if obtained from places like pawn shops, flea markets, etc etc, if any of them were originally illegally obtained.
Michael O'Leary said:Why don't you do some research and look for answers to your questions instead of making gross assumptions that fit your prejudices?
S.Stewart said:I didn't say the person who runs that site gathers said medals illegally. Reread . I said they were potentially being gathered from places where the medals originally ended up illegally (theft not that it's illegal to sell them) And yes my opinion is and I stand by it, is that I hardly think running a site where you are selling off someone`s medals for 300 plus dollars a pop is preserving military history, it is simply making cash, because if it wasn't not profit in it, chances are it wouldn't exist. I have war medals in the family, I personally would have words for any family member that decided to sell them for cash, something just disrespectful about it.
Michael O'Leary said:It doesn't matter what your opinion of your family medals might be, apparently not all families through history have felt the same way. Medals, no matter what any of us believe they stand for, are property, and subject to all the rights of property held by their owners. Your gross assumptions that a dealer in medals is simply a profiteer or that they are selling goods which somehow "originally ended up illegally" are narrow-minded prejudices that you carry simply because the legal trade in medals doesn't fit your preferred opinion.
Would you rather families threw them away when someone didn't want them any more? Or when the last heir dies? The Canadian War Museum probably has thousands of medals in its collection, go through the galleries, you can count the few dozen groups on display. How a many more would you like to see in their vaults, never to be seen again? Medals dealers and collectors are not criminals, nor are they trading in illegally gotten goods and yes, most of them actually do believe in the history and the men behind those medals. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it "disrespectful."
Please explain to me how someone paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to own a medal or medal group which they research and take pride in because they are helping to preserve the recipients' memory is disrespectful.
S.Stewart said:I never said anything said merchant was doing was illegal, and some which are 30 bucks a pop are hardly thousands of dollars. What's the difference between them sitting in someone's home, vs in a vault not much, little sunlight from the window now and then. What happens when that person croaks, what the cycle continues, it ends up in a museum. End result is basically same difference, if the guy running the site didn't want to profit they wouldn't be sold for what they were, each to there own doesn't mean I have to agree with it. You can sell anything that is your property, I am sure legally if I could sell an urn full of ashes on ebay, there is some idiot who would buy some veteran's ashes (people are strange) but just cause you can sell something doesn't make it ethical. I am for preserving history, don't get me wrong I just don't necessarily agree with being able to buy a brand new car while doing it.
S.Stewart said:I mean really honest question would you be okay say down the road you became say dementia ridden, basically couldn't care for yourself had to be moved out of your home, and your family cleared out your stuff, they didn't want your medals figured you are on your way out they have power of care and power of attorney and you wouldn't know the difference anyway, you would really agree that it's no big deal and be okay if they sold them on ebay to some random somewhere, because that is somehow preserving history, and then they you know taking the money and going out to dinner, buying a new tv?
S.Stewart said:I am not saying collectors should be stopped, you choose to purchase medals off ebay and you want to preserve them, go for it.
S.Stewart said:I do have issues with people who are just peddlers, buying and reselling at inflated prices to me that doesn't scream care for much except lining one's pocket.
S.Stewart said:By some idiot I was referring not to those who purchase medals, rather one who would have the gall to purchase remains. (I would never put remains on the ebay, some I am sure are callous enough to)
We don't allow humans, the human body, or any human body parts or products to be listed on eBay, with two exceptions. Sellers can list items containing human scalp hair, and skulls and skeletons intended for medical use.