Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)

[George Wallace]

Please pay attention to detail.

Ok few things.  Your selected MOC is what is referred to as a "purple" trade, meaning, its members can wear any of the 3 DEUs, and despite the DEU you are wearing, you can operate in any of the 3 environments.  Your preferred DEU is Air Force, however, you have been given an offer for the Army DEU.

As far as I know, all personel entering the CF as NCMs in the Army DEU will complete the SQ course, a common course to ALL Army NCMs.

I know that "hard" ( :blotto Air Force MOCs do not do the SQ course (I am just about to transfer into one of them this week).

I think though, your question should go here http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/board,46.0.html

In the CF certain Trades are "Element Specific".    This is what happened to you.  A 291 would be better to answer the questions as to what Element they are.

 

[tango_girl555]

Is there a lot of PT on the soldier qualification course or is it strictly classroom work and field work?

Thanks!

 

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[Nfld Sapper]

Is there a lot of PT on the soldier qualification course or is it strictly classroom work and field work?

Thanks!

Like any other Military Course there is a mix of PT and Classroom/Field.

 

[DeltaWhiskey]

Guys, could someone help me out with a few  multiple questions, please? 
First, what exactly does "fieldcraft" refer to (As in "perform individual fieldcraft".)?
Second, when you are enrolled in SQ, does the location of where you take it necessarily correspond to where you are likely to be spending the next training period? For example, I've applied to be a Comm Res Op (Reg Force). If successful in BMQ, will the CF put me in Borden or Petawawa for SQ ( as it's geographically close in proximity) and then on to Kingston, or is SQ available in Kingston, and if so would I be placed there as it would be my next stop for training? Also, is it at the point of SQ commencement when your family (i.e. wife and children) is moved along with you, or is this upon successful completion of SQ?
Sorry...I realize that's a lot to answer, but I've been getting different answers from different people - including recruiting (Their response has been to  "bring it up when I talk to the clerks".) I'm guessing, though, that the CF puts you where there's an available slot.
Thanks for any input.

 

[MikeL]

After BMQ you will be sent to PRETC in CFB Borden; than you will be sent to either Meaford or Gagetown to do your SQ after that you will return to PRETC an wait out there untill your QL3 starts. Than prior to your QL3 Comm Res course starting you will be sent to Kingston. 

When you are on your QL3 you can have a PMQ an have your family moved up to Kingston. As for having a PMQ while in Borden/PRETC  I have no clue.

Fieldcraft; do Army stuff in the field.


Now, your questions have been asked an answered multiple time, next time search.

 

[ArmyRick]

SQ actually ceased to exist now. The new course is called BMQ (L). Yes it is called BMQ (Land). It is only four weeks long and you do it after BMQ.

Those personal going 031 (INFMN) will not do it as they will attend the enhanced DP 1 Infantry (now 14 weeks long, oh look at that, it used to be 10 weeks).

The old 7 week SQ will run a few more cycles and thats it.

Or until someone decides in 5 minutes what the new courses will include.

 

[DeltaWhiskey]

Thanks, MikeL, for answering my questions. Fieldcraft is pretty much what I thought it may be.
BTW, I did search, but the information was scattered and varied.
Thanks again.

 

[BDTyre]

ArmyRick - does that apply only to RegF?

 

[ArmyRick]

Reserve BMQ (L), formerly known as SQ is the same. Basically the regF and the reserves now do the same SQ. So for REG F it is now BMQ (13 weeks) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then DP training. For reserves it is BMQ (5-6 weeks depending or its weekend equalivalent) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then same same...

Hope this helps some people understand the jigsaw puzzle of initial training.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Reserve BMQ (L), formerly known as SQ is the same. Basically the regF and the reserves now do the same SQ. So for REG F it is now BMQ (13 weeks) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then DP training. For reserves it is BMQ (5-6 weeks depending or its weekend equalivalent) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then same same...

Hope this helps some people understand the jigsaw puzzle of initial training.

BMQ Reserve is 20 days excatly not adding in the 1 extra day for SHARP so ~4 weeks of continous training  ;D

<edited to add>

According to the latest SQ TP dated September 2004 SQ Training for Reserves is 17 training days

 

[patt]

SQ actually ceased to exist now. The new course is called BMQ (L). Yes it is called BMQ (Land). It is only four weeks long and you do it after BMQ.

Those personal going 031 (INFMN) will not do it as they will attend the enhanced DP 1 Infantry (now 14 weeks long, oh look at that, it used to be 10 weeks).

The old 7 week SQ will run a few more cycles and thats it.

Or until someone decides in 5 minutes what the new courses will include.

same here at the Armour School. Was 8 weeks long now 16.

 

[Justacivvy]

Reserve BMQ (L), formerly known as SQ is the same. Basically the regF and the reserves now do the same SQ. So for REG F it is now BMQ (13 weeks) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then DP training. For reserves it is BMQ (5-6 weeks depending or its weekend equalivalent) + BMQ (L) 4 weeks and then same same...

Hope this helps some people understand the jigsaw puzzle of initial training.

Sorry ArmyRick do you have the link for the information above? Are the new changes effective this summer? Thank you.

 

[ArmyRick]

The new changes are effective now, not this summer. For reservist there is really no change.

 

[BDTyre]

BMQ Reserve is 20 days excatly not adding in the 1 extra day for SHARP so ~4 weeks of continous training  ;D

<edited to add>

According to the latest SQ TP dated September 2004 SQ Training for Reserves is 17 training days

Hmm...my SQ ends up being a little longer than 17 days if you count the Friday nights plus the few Thursday nights during last half.  Whatever.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Hmm...my SQ ends up being a little longer than 17 days if you count the Friday nights plus the few Thursday nights during last half.  Whatever.

Forgot to add in that there is also Supplemental Training of 12.9 days

 

[DirtyDog]

SQ actually ceased to exist now. The new course is called BMQ (L). Yes it is called BMQ (Land). It is only four weeks long and you do it after BMQ.

Those personal going 031 (INFMN) will not do it as they will attend the enhanced DP 1 Infantry (now 14 weeks long, oh look at that, it used to be 10 weeks).

The old 7 week SQ will run a few more cycles and thats it.

Or until someone decides in 5 minutes what the new courses will include.

Hmmm.  Interesting.

I just got my posting message for Meaford the other day (graduated BMQ yesterday) and none of the course (SQ, Infantry MOC) dates are listed.  It only says "Sessions to be confirmed".

I wonder what and when me and a bunch of other Infantry guys will be doing in the coming weeks.......

 

[GreenHand]

Hey everyone,

I am currently in BMQ (14 week) I will be graduating in 3 weeks {Infantry 031/0010}. I would like to get some info regarding how long SQ actually is. At the recruiting center they told me 10 weeks, and now rumors are going around about it only being 4 weeks. I ask myself what they dropped to cut 6 weeks off of the program? Has the MOC training for infantryman been lengthened? I know that information on the site cannot be considered official but someone with any insight would greatly help. THANKS

 

[ArmyRick]

OK first off the recruiting centers are right out of 'er. SQ has not been 10 weeks long since 2002. It was quuickly changed to 7 weeks. Now it is called BMQ (L) and it is 4 weeks long. This is straight up, dog.

Now since you are going 031, you wil attend a 14 week Dp 1 infantry instead of doing a BMQ(L) (Formerly known as SQ).

Greenhand, I hope you learn to read a little better in the future, I put the answers up regarding your questions in the last page or two.

 

[GreenHand]

Does the DP1 Infantry course include the 'old SQ' and MOC training balled into one course? Or do you still require training after DP1?
Thanks


ArmyRick: You are right, I need to pay attention to postings a little closer.