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Shooting rampage at Fort Hood

Hasan made $90,000 a year but lived frugally in a $300 a month apartment. The FBI is looking at Hasan's finances to see how he spent his money. One allegation is that he sent money to someone in Pakistan to support the jihad in Afghanistan. Alot of unconnected dots right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw2ho2T3FsQ
 
tomahawk6 said:
Hasan made $90,000 a year but lived frugally in a $300 a month apartment. The FBI is looking at Hasan's finances to see how he spent his money. One allegation is that he sent money to someone in Pakistan to support the jihad in Afghanistan. Alot of unconnected dots right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw2ho2T3FsQ

The not so good Doctor had an expensive hobby:
"Alleged Fort Hood Shooter Frequented Local Strip Club:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html
I have read that is how the 9/11 Terrorists passed the time while awaiting their heavenly reward of 77 virgins.

"The FBI is looking at Hasan's finances to see how he spent his money."
No need for money in the next world.  Might as well spend it in this one. 
 
mariomike said:
The not so good Doctor had an expensive hobby:
"Alleged Fort Hood Shooter Frequented Local Strip Club:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html
I have read that is how the 9/11 Terrorists passed their time while awaiting their heavenly reward of 77 virgins.

A guy going to a strip bar is news??  Even a supposedly "devout" Muslim going to a strip bar isn't news.  ::)

Fox is just digging for crap, as usual.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/fort-hood-munley-todd-hasan


New account of Fort Hood shooting may put another officer in spotlight
It has emerged that a previously unheralded police sergeant may have fired shots that ended attack
Sergeant Kimberly Munley was the heroine America desperately sought in the hours after the massacre at the Fort Hood army base in Texas.

But a week after Major Nidal Hasan allegedly shot and killed 13 people and wounded dozens more, it has emerged that a previously unheralded police sergeant may in fact have fired the bullets that ended the attack, not Munley.

A witness to the shooting spree told the New York Times today that Hasan was taken down by Senior Sergeant Mark Todd, a veteran police officer.

The revelations came as the US military announced today that it had charged Hasan with 13 counts of premeditated murder amid growing questions about the failure of US authorities to arrest Hasan before the massacre.

The White House said today that President Barack Obama had ordered an internal review of intelligence gathered on Hasan prior to the attack. Obama said the inquiry by John Brennan, an adviser on homeland security and counterterrorism, would not interfere with the criminal investigation.

In TV appearances, Munley and Todd have thus far failed to clear up exactly who shot him.

Munley insisted that she fired at Hasan, but did not say whether she had hit him. Todd talked of firing the shots that brought down Hasan - the first time he had ever fired at a human being in his 25-year career - but could not say whether Hasan had already been shot.

"I seen him [sic], I drew his attention toward me, and then he opened fire and then I neutralised him and secured him," Todd told CBS's Early Show this morning.

Pressed whether Hasan was still armed and threatening when he opened fire, Todd said: "We were engaged in a gunfight, and then I neutralised him, or we neutralised him."

Hasan, 39, is recovering in the hospital from police gunshot wounds. Ballistics tests and further investigation may ultimately determine which of the two police sergeants shot him.

The tale of Munley's apparent heroism recalls the case of Jessica Lynch, an army private first class who the US military said was wounded while fighting off Iraqi troops during the US invasion, reportedly firing her rifle heroically before being captured. It later emerged she was injured in a vehicle accident during an ambush and was well cared for by the Iraqis.

Munley, a petite, highly-trained civilian police officer and firearms expert, was initially said to have encountered Hasan during the attack, rushed at him and shot him down, taking at least three bullets from his pistol in the process.

Quoting an anonymous eyewitness, however, the New York Times called into question that account, reporting that Hasan remained on his feet, apparently unharmed and reloading his pistol, after shooting Munley. The witness said it was unclear whether Munley fired off a shot before Todd arrived seconds later, shooting Hasan until he fell to the ground then kicking his gun away and handcuffing him.

"It's muscle memory," Todd told CBS. "In a situation like this you don't have to think about it, you just react. By the grace of god I'm standing here with no injuries, with not a scratch."

Contrary to previous reports, Hasan's military personnel record indicates that he did not apply for an early discharge from the army, as a conscientious objector or for any other reason, according to military officials. Hasan, who was born in the US to Palestinian parents, was widely understood to have sought and been denied an early separation from the army, a factor that could have helped explain why he allegedly snapped and went on the shooting rampage.

Family members have said that Hasan sought desperately to leave the army, especially ahead of an expected deployment to Afghanistan. A cousin in the West Bank has said that as recently as a week before the incident the army rejected Hasan's effort to gain an early separation. The army, short on psychiatrists and desperate to retain Arab-Americans among its ranks, was highly unlikely to accede to such a request from Hasan, having paid for his medical training.

But the Pentagon has found no evidence Hasan ever formally sought to leave the military. Another indication Hasan had not put in for a discharge: He was promoted to the rank of major in May, after an army board endorsed his performance as an officer, the Washington Post reported.

Meanwhile, officials involved in Hasan's medical training have described him as belligerent, defensive and argumentative when discussing his apparently deeply held Muslim faith.

Officials also described him as a mediocre student and a lazy worker, and said the combination led to a decision to send him to Fort Hood, where other medical personnel could pick up the slack if he continued to perform poorly and superior officers could document behaviour problems, the Associated Press reported.
 
"He was promoted to the rank of major in May, after an army board endorsed his performance as an officer"

"Officials also described him as a mediocre student and a lazy worker, and said the combination led to a decision to send him to Fort Hood, where other medical personnel could pick up the slack if he continued to perform poorly and superior officers could document behaviour problems"


Come on, make up your mind - one line says he was good enough to promote the next says he was a problem child...
 
Greymatters said:
Come on, make up your mind - one line says he was good enough to promote the next says he was a problem child...

Oh, but if they didn't promote him it would have been "discrimination".  ::)

Don't forget that many of the negative things observed about him never made it to paper.
 
"Jihad sparked accused Fort Hood killer: The massacre in Fort Hood, Texas, was an act in the war the Islamists declared some three decades ago against America, the great Satan in particular, and the west in general. ":
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/salim_mansur/2009/11/14/11743111-sun.html

"fifty years ago, the current response to such an attack by an enemy faction would have been unthinkable. ":
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/it_isnt_political_correctness.html

 
WE renounce thee, great western Satan!

We cast out everything to do with you!
Except strippers and ALcohol.
And cell phones and your medicines.
And we guess anything else we find convenient, but we still renounce you!
 
Retired Major-General MacInnis speaks up in public; politicians claim they don't hear him:

Texas Shooting 'Terrorist-Sponsored,' General Alleges

http://news.guelphmercury.com/News/article/560588

(Reproduced in accordance with the Fair Dealing provision of the Copyright Act.)

November 11, 2009
Scott Tracey

GUELPH — While American officials have said they believe a shooter who killed more than a dozen people at a U.S. Army base acted alone, a retired senior Canadian military official on Wednesday connected the incident to organized terrorism. In noting we are always at potential risk of harm, retired major-general John Archibald MacInnis said the killing last Thursday, at the Fort Hood Army base in Texas, of 13 people “in practically their own backyard in what was clearly a terrorist-sponsored act.”

MacInnis was the keynote speaker during the Guelph Remembrance Day ceremony at the Sleeman Centre. The ceremony was broadcast live on Rogers Television and rebroadcast Wednesday evening. Guelph MPP Liz Sandals, who spoke after MacInnis and thanked the general for coming to the city, said later she had trouble hearing his speech “but I sort of heard (that comment). I did realize he had made an allusion to terrorism. ”Guelph MP Frank Valeriote, who introduced MacInnis, said after the ceremony he, too, had difficulty hearing the general’s speech and had little to say when told his words.

“I’m not familiar enough with the circumstances (of the Fort Hood shooting) to support what (MacInnis) said or deny what he said,” Valeriote said. But as recently as Monday, U.S. officials said they believed the shooter acted alone and had not been involved in terrorist planning. Officials are investigating connections between suspect Nidal Malik Hasan and a radical imam allegedly connected to terrorist groups, but have said communications between the two seemed largely related to Hasan’s research on post-traumatic stress disorder.

MacInnis, who once served as deputy commander of United Nations troops in the former Yugoslavia, could not be reached for comment after the ceremony.
 
Nuts  [Mark Steyn]


For the purposes of argument, let's accept the media's insistence that Major Hasan is a lone crazy.

So who's nuttier?

The guy who gives a lecture to other military doctors in which he says non-Muslims should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats?

Or the guys who say "Hey, let's have this fellow counsel our traumatized veterans and then promote him to major and put him on a Homeland Security panel?

Or the Army Chief of Staff who thinks the priority should be to celebrate diversity, even unto death?

Or the Secretary of Homeland Security who warns that the principal threat we face now is an outbreak of Islamophobia?

Or the president who says we cannot "fully know" why Major Hasan did what he did, so why trouble ourselves any further?

Or the columnist who, when a man hands out copies of the Koran before gunning down his victims while yelling "Allahu akbar," says you're racist if you bring up his religion?

Or his media colleagues who put Americans in the same position as East Germans twenty years ago of having to get hold of a foreign newspaper to find out what's going on?

General Casey has a point: An army that lets you check either the "home team" or "enemy" box according to taste is certainly diverse. But the logic in the remarks of Secretary Napolitano and others is that the real problem is that most Americans are knuckledragging bigots just waiting to go bananas. As Melanie Phillips wrote in her book Londonistan:

Minority-rights doctrine has produced a moral inversion, in which those doing wrong are excused if they belong to a 'victim' group, while those at the receiving end of their behaviour are blamed simply because they belong to the 'oppressive' majority.

To the injury of November 5, we add the insults of American officialdom and their poodle media. In a nutshell:

The real enemy — in the sense of the most important enemy — isn’t a bunch of flea-bitten jihadis sitting in a cave somewhere. It’s Western civilization’s craziness. We are setting our hair on fire and putting it out with a hammer.


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Spin on the event; trying hard not to connect the dots (or even recognize they are there).

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/11/14/where-are-the-purple-hearts-some-truths-about-fort-hood/

Where are the Purple Hearts? Some Truths About Fort Hood

Posted By Roger Kimball On November 14, 2009 @ 6:35 am In Uncategorized | 46 Comments

Twelve solders and one civilian army employee were massacred by Maj. Nidal Hasan, an army psychiatrist, on November 5 at Ft. Hood, Texas. Maj. Hasan injured another thirty people, some critically, before being shot himself by the local police.

Will the soldiers whom Hasan killed or injured in this latest terrorist assault receive the Purple Heart?

In my view, they should. But whether they do depends on how the Obama administration decides to spin the episode. If it determines that the soldiers were victims of criminal assault, the answer is No: they do not get this most somber military decoration.

But if the Obama administration determines that those soldiers were injured or killed in the line of duty, then they are eligible for the Purple Heart. [UPDATE: the always excellent Diana West beat me to the punch with this insightful column [1] about Ft. Hood and the Purple Heart.]

It’s tricky for Obama. His administration is devoted to transforming the jihadist war against the West into a civilian conflict. Hence the heavy odor of political correctness that has hung about Ft. Hood since November 5 when Maj. Hasan shouted “Allahu Akbar” and opened fire.

Perhaps the most nauseating PC emission came from General George Casey, the army’s top officer, who told CNN [2] that he was “concerned” that “speculation” about Maj. Hasan’s motivation in mowing down those 40-odd people at Ft. Hood “could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”

Is he really?

Care to savor an unadulterated gem of political correctness? You cannot do better than this:

    ” . . . as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

That’s General George Casey again — one for the record books, I’d say. I’m sure that non-Muslim soldiers in the U.S. Army the world over appreciate his sensitivity and will once again rest easy. Is Mohammed polishing his revolver in the bunk opposite? Never mind. This is the modern Army, committed to diversity. Some soldiers fight the enemies of America. These days, we have to have soldiers who regard America as the enemy. Be all you can be.

New Yorkers, too, will be able to rest more easily now that the Obama administration has decided to remove 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other terrorist conspirators from the jurisdiction of the military and hand them over to a New York criminal court to be tried. Are you interested in learning how to transform a mass murderer into a totemic hero for America’s enemies the world over? Stayed tuned. President Obama is just about to show you how it is done. Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, speaking at the Federalist Society’s National Lawyers Convention yesterday, rightly blasted [3] this return to a September 10 mentality that supposes “acts like the first World Trade Center bombing [in 1993], the attacks on our embassies in Africa and other such acts can and should be treated as conventional crimes and tried in conventional courts.” Not only will this disgorge a “cornucopia” of sensitive intelligence information to public scrutiny, but it will also provide other jihadists with a tempting target of opportunity.

In “The Purloined Letter,” Edgar Allan Poe showed that sometimes the best place to conceal something is in plain sight. Somehow, we overlook what we can’t avoid. The case of Maj. Nidal Hasan and his murderous rampage at Ft. Hood reminds us that a similar process is at work in the career of Islam in the West. The truth couldn’t be plainer: Islam is a creed violently at odds with secular liberal society.

How we have struggled to deny this! A few days after 9/11, President Bush found an imam to stand next to him as he told told the world that the word “Islam” means “peace.”

In fact, “Islam” means “submission to the will of Allah.” One thing that Allah wills is the subjugation or murder of the infidel, i.e. non-Muslims. You don’t have to be a student of comparative religion to understand this. All you had to do on September 11, 2001, was look around at the smoldering ruins of what had been the World Trade Center.

The U.S. State Department [4] tells its employees that “jihad” means “inner struggle.” In fact, it means homicidal mania. You don’t need to be a linguist to see this. The families of the forty-odd people Hasan gunned down understood this immediately.

A reporter for The New York Times, grasping for a straw of exoneration, suggested that Maj. Hasan had been suffering from “post-traumatic stress syndrome.” An editorial in The Washington Times wittily observed [5] that “pre-traumatic stress syndrome” would be closer to the truth. Maj. Hasan had never seen combat. When not garnering a medical degree at the expense of the U.S. government, he was busy imbibing al Qaeda’s hideous doctrine of hate from wackos like Anwar al-Awlaki [6].

Why was Nidal Hasan even allowed in the army? In London a few days ago, I had tea with a friend who is an Arabist. He told me that, had he been the army recruiter who interviewed Hasan, he would have denied him entry to the army. “Nidal,” he explained, means “warrior,” “combatant.” It was a name you didn’t really encounter before the 1960s and the rise of radical Islam. Nidal Hasan’s parents inscribed his ideology on his birth certificate.

I had no idea what “Nidal” meant. Probably you didn’t either. But, 8 years after 9/11, an army recruiter ought to have known it.

There was nothing subtle about Nidal Hasan. His hatred of the infidel, like Falstaff’s dishonesty, is “gross as a mountain, open, palpable.” He paraded it. Colleagues at Walter Reed Hospital commented on it. It raised an eyebrow, but not much of an alarm, at the FBI. (See Andy McCarthy on the FBI’s bumbling treatment [7] of the case.)

It took five days for President Obama to travel to Ft. Hood and say something about the Islamic terrorist outrage that had been perpetrated there. He didn’t call it a terrorist outrage, of course. Why? Two main reasons: 1) Doing so might offend those “mainstream” Muslims General Casey’s diversity program caters to; and 2) it might suggest that the Obama administration isn’t as effective as it should be about protecting America from terrorists.

Instead of telling the truth, President Obama described [8] Maj. Hasan’s attack as an “incomprehensible” act that “no faith justifies.”

In fact, Maj. Hasan’s rampage is perfectly comprehensible because it is explicitly justified, indeed encouraged, by Islam, the faith he embraces.

Until we are willing to face up to that truth, we will not be able to defend ourselves effectively. Nor, finally, will we be able to defend the rights of those pacific people who call themselves Muslims but have abandoned the toxic heart of Islam.

Bottom line: Islam confronts the liberal democracies of the West with a critical existential test. Islam is Janus-faced. It presents itself as a religion, but one with explicit and uncompromising political ambitions. It faces not only the hereafter, but also the here-and-now. The West can strive to make a place for Islam’s inward aspirations. The West, if freedom is to survive and prosper, must also strenuously deny Islam’s political claims.

Islam presents the West with a boundary case, testing the limits of religious freedom. Unlike Muslims, we believe people should be allowed to worship unmolested as they see fit. But in order to protect that commodiousness, the West must be intolerant of doctrines, like Islam, that preach intolerance.

Doctrines that have a religious dimension must not be allowed to draw on the prestige, the privileges, the immunities we accord to religion when they do so in order to deny those privileges and immunities to others. Such movements — Islam is one — should be regarded as what they are: activist political organizations whose aims are destructive of our institutions.

Back when he was capitulating to the dwarfish tyrant that rules North Korea, President Obama said [9] “Words must mean something.” He was right about that. It’s a pity that, here as elsewhere, his actions do not live up to his words. Which is why, were I a betting man, I’d wager there will be no Purple Hearts distributed at Ft. Hood. Looking for the purloined letter? It’s right there in front of you.

Article printed from Roger’s Rules: http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball

URL to article: http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/11/14/where-are-the-purple-hearts-some-truths-about-fort-hood/

URLs in this post:

[1] with this insightful column: http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1125/Purple-Hearts-for-Ft-Hood-Fallen.aspx

[2] told CNN: http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/11/08/general-casey-diversity-shouldnt-be-casualty-of-fort-hood/

[3] rightly blasted: http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/13/mukasey-blasts-pre-911-mentail

[4] U.S. State Department: http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/126.pdf

[5] wittily observed: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/12/when-the-shooter-becomes-the-victim/

[6] Anwar al-Awlaki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

[7] Andy McCarthy on the FBI’s bumbling treatment: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjNjZTljN2MxMGI4MTJkNTMxODA4YjA5MGNiMmRlYWM=

[8] President Obama described: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-memorial-service-fort-hood

[9] President Obama said: http://townhall.com/columnists/CalThomas/2009/04/09/the_meaning_of_words
 
"Witholding medals to these war dead and wounded is the ultimate act of submission."

I agree. In my opinion, they are as entitled to the Purple Heart as much as the military people and their families who were awarded them after 9/11.
 
If I was shot by one of my own peers I wouldn't want a wound stripe (purple heart).
I'd be embarrassed.

Do soldiers who are killed on week-end leave in a DUI in the US get a purple heart?

I think giving out the purple heart for this would some how legitimize this assholes wanna-be terrorist perception of himself.

I don't think he was a terrorist anymore than that other gunman who shot up his office a day or whatever later.

We should stop painting everyone with the Mark I- G.W Bush pattern terrorist paintgun.
 
"Purple Hearts proposed for Fort Hood victims: Washington (CNN) -- Military victims of the Fort Hood massacre will be eligible to receive the Purple Heart if Congress passes a bill introduced Tuesday.":
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/17/fort.hood.medals/
 
"Why was Nidal Hasan even allowed in the army? In London a few days ago, I had tea with a friend who is an Arabist. He told me that, had he been the army recruiter who interviewed Hasan, he would have denied him entry to the army. “Nidal,” he explained, means “warrior,” “combatant.” It was a name you didn’t really encounter before the 1960s and the rise of radical Islam. Nidal Hasan’s parents inscribed his ideology on his birth certificate.  I had no idea what “Nidal” meant. Probably you didn’t either. But, 8 years after 9/11, an army recruiter ought to have known it."

Not many people recall the 'Abu Nidal Organization' (ANO) of the 1970's.  But is it really akin to naming your child 'Attila' or 'Adolf'?  I know a few people named Joseph but it doesnt mean their families idolized Big Joe of the former USSR... 

Now, if someone named their son 'Adolf Attila Joseph Mao (Last Name)', then I'd be a bit concerned...
 
On the radio this am in San Antonio, a discussion on how "we have let down our magnificent troops", "we have broken their trust", due to the shootings at Fort Hood.

 
CNN: "Political correctness and Ft. Hood killings:"
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/18/kenniff.forthood/index.html
 
http://www.ottawasun.com/news/world/2009/12/03/12029671-ap.html

Ft. Hood cop: career has been cut short
By Angela K. Brown - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — One of two civilian police officers who brought down the Army psychiatrist accused of going on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood said her wounds from the attack will cut short her career as street police officer.

Sgt. Kimberly Munley said doctors have told her she needs a total knee replacement, a surgery set for January, but that her new knee is likely to wear out sooner if she runs or carries the 15- to 25-pound gear pack required by her job.

“I do want to stay in law enforcement. I’m not going to be able to do what I did before, which is basically work the street,” she told Wilmington, N.C., television station WECT on Wednesday. “It’s going to give me another avenue to look in as far as possibly teaching and instructing.”

Fort Hood officials said Thursday that Munley, 34, who was shot in the leg and hand, has not started the process to determine if she’s physically able to do her former job.

Munley and Sgt. Mark Todd, another civilian officer in Fort Hood’s police force, are credited with shooting Maj. Nidal Hasan to end the Nov. 5 shooting spree on the Texas Army post, about 150 miles southwest of Fort Worth. Todd, 42, was not injured and is already back at work.

Hasan remains hospitalized in a San Antonio military hospital but is paralyzed from his wounds, said his attorney John Galligan.

Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder. Army officials have not said if they will seek the death penalty, but they plan an evaluation in the next 45 days to determine his mental state that day and whether he is competent to stand trial.

The Army Reserve unit that Hasan apparently was supposed to deploy with plans to leave for Afghanistan as scheduled early Friday, Fort Hood officials said Thursday. Three soldiers from the Madison, Wis.-based combat stress unit died in the shooting and others were injured.

In a posting on her blog, Munley said she was lucky that she did not lose her leg, where a bullet hit an artery. She said she now has to use a wheelchair and walker, but “cannot complain one bit“ because she feels she was given a second chance at life.

“I have addressed more or less every thought and emotion about what’s happened to everyone else — the injured and the ones that did not make it and their families,” Munley told the television station. “I can’t tell you if I have any thoughts towards what he’s done to me because I’ve been too overwhelmed with trying to come to terms with how everyone else has suffered through this.”

Munley, who previously was in the Army, worked as a police officer in Wrightsville Beach, N.C., from 2000-02.
 
I am sure she wont be hurting as she could a medical disability pension and her hubby is Special Forces. Under workmans compensation she will draw 60% of her base pay and will be eligible for a training program. Or they could find an admin job for her.
 
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