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Am I the only one who feels that nobody is being served with these latest developments?
Fortin is probably OK....
Am I the only one who feels that nobody is being served with these latest developments?
We don't know that he got the whole 6 million.Fortin is probably OK....
I have met General Cadieux several years ago - only briefly - and found him to be a pretty smart guy.Results of my former boss. Charges stayed because the process took too long. I have mixed feelings about this. I greatly admired LGen Cadieux and loved working for him, but unfortunately this charge will continue to haunt him because there was no resolution by the justice system. When he said that they was no assault, I believe him, but the victim did come forward with allegations of assault that she believed happened and that he was the culprit.
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I have met General Cadieux several years ago - only briefly - and found him to be a pretty smart guy.
It seems there is NO presumption of innocence when a GOFO is named. "HE DID IT BURN THE WITCH" seems to be the default setting. Lets forget all about due process and convict them.
Everyone has the right to due process - and I see the process every day - but the higher in society you are the less it seems to be upheld.
I don't buy this narrative one moment.Tall Poppy Syndrome enters the chat. Some results of a survey connected to women in the workplace....
Tall Poppy Syndrome is impacting corporations, and it’s not just a women’s issue
There’s a silent but significant syndrome wreaking havoc on corporations and their ability to promote, retain and engage top talent – and its impact is being felt globally.
Tall Poppy Syndrome (TPS) is a term referring to poppies that grow higher than others and are cut down to size so that they are the same height as the flowers around them. In the workplace, this occurs when people are attacked, resented or ostracized because of their success and/or achievements. Successful individuals are cut down, rather than celebrated, for their accomplishments.
Through the first international survey of its kind, Women of Influence+ heard from thousands of women across professions, industries and sectors to determine the effects of TPS on their lives, personally and professionally, and on the organizations in which they work.
The results were telling.
Of 4,710 women surveyed, nearly 90 per cent reported experiencing TPS at some point during their careers. TPS can manifest in different ways. It can look like being ostracized or made to feel ashamed or embarrassed because of your accomplishments. It can look like being bullied, knocked down or criticized for getting ahead. It can also look like others taking credit for work you’ve done or convincing you it’s best not to celebrate your success.
Undermined and penalized
While the survey showed a large majority of women have experienced TPS at work, this is not just a women’s issue.
The effects of TPS are negatively impacting corporate culture, employee morale and most notably the bottom line. And it’s a problem that couldn’t be happening at a worse time. There is a gap in the workforce where many accomplished women used to be that is growing wider every day.
For women who are committed to forging ahead, TPS is a barrier to advancement that’s driving many to reconsider their career aspirations and places of employment. As one survey respondent said, “I was openly promised a promotion to the C-Suite and then later told I was too outwardly ambitious and excited for the opportunity, so I was not promoted. [Now], I’m completely checked out, embarrassed and looking for new jobs.”
To better understand this phenomenon, we must determine who is undermining and penalizing women, and why. The results of the survey indicate that these aggressions come from all levels of seniority – from co-workers, clients, vendors, managers and executives. They also come from people outside of the workplace, such as family and friends or mothers in the school yard. The majority of women report that those undermining them are men, but women are also cutting each other down and are more likely to do so to their peers, colleagues, and direct reports.
These findings beg the question: Why are we so uncomfortable with women’s success?
It’s a question that needs to be taken seriously. The effects of TPS can be significant and lasting. For example, women who have experienced TPS report increased stress (85.6 per cent), a negative impact on their mental health (73.8 per cent), lowered self-confidence (66.2 per cent) and feelings of isolation and burnout.
Tall Poppy Syndrome is impacting corporations, and it’s not just a women’s issue
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Amazing how quickly you decided that all that he values is money, rather than reputation, relationships, a life's work, the impact of the violation of trust from an institution he sacrificed so much for.Fortin is probably OK....
You have to admit that the media release says a lot though.Amazing how quickly you decided that all that he values is money, rather than reputation, relationships, a life's work, the impact of the violation of trust from an institution he sacrificed so much for.
And like as not you decided that without ever having met the man, let alone served with him.
Nice meme for a cheap shot though.
Actually he had a solid reputation as a soldier and is a highly intelligent and able individual. He could have gone further within the military and in industry afterwards. Monetarily, I doubt that the sum he received will come close to compensating him for his future earnings loss. That's before you even get to touch on his personal reputation and the years of bearing this burden that he's gone through.Fortin is probably OK....
Do you think that the government suggested/ordered the CF not to reassign or offer new terms of service to Fortin for nefarious reasons? Personally, I would not be surprised.The Canadian Armed Forces cleared him in an internal review process the next month, but he was not reassigned to a new posting and his terms of service were up last July.
All GOFOs serve ‘at the pleasure of the Crown.’ IN the black and white of the policies, if the Crown doesn’t want them, it doesn’t have to keep them. Of course it would be understandable if people believed that there was something untoward behind the scenes such that Fortin, and in a different nexus, but outcome similar, Norman left CAF service with an undisclosed settlement.Do you think that the government suggested/ordered the CF not to reassign or offer new terms of service to Fortin for nefarious reasons? Personally, I would not be surprised.
Amazing how quickly you decided that all that he values is money, rather than reputation, relationships, a life's work, the impact of the violation of trust from an institution he sacrificed so much for.
Am I the only one who feels that nobody is being served with these latest developments?
And here, in there National Post, is another side of the story.If you read the ENTIRE LGen Whelan decision, which for some god forsaken reason I did, the judge implies, without out right saying it, that the military may have transferred the case to the civilian court knowing that the time spent on the military would not constitute a delay defence, and would therefore contribute to the overall time in a section 11(b) application, the implication being that while the military could have let this case stay within military lines, they chose to transfer it to the civilian side in the hope that the case would get thrown out under a section 11(b) application for taking too long to conclude.
I wonder if there will be something similar when the report comes out from this case...
The only part I agree with (and view is credible) is the following.And here, in there National Post, is another side of the story.
And here, in there National Post, is another side of the story.
It seems there is NO presumption of innocence when a GOFO is named. "HE DID IT BURN THE WITCH" seems to be the default setting. Lets forget all about due process and convict them.
Everyone has the right to due process - and I see the process every day - but the higher in society you are the less it seems to be upheld.
I stand by what I said - the higher in rank the more you're likely to be crucified before the facts are out.And here, in there National Post, is another side of the story.
From personal experience, walking down past a newspaper box and seeing unsubstantiated allegations about yourself on the front page is absolutely brutal (and mine weren't even any kind of ethical or sexual misconduct; it was basically IT security infraction that got trumped up).I stand by what I said - the higher in rank the more you're likely to be crucified before the facts are out.
The difference here is that Whelan was guilty as fucking sin, but isn’t paying the piper due to the evidence being not admitted.I stand by what I said - the higher in rank the more you're likely to be crucified before the facts are out.
That's a bit of a strange view. If the evidence isn't admissible then he can't be guilty of anything. The last time I looked our justice system considered everyone innocent until proven guilty based on admissible evidence and not on rumours coming out by leakers. I'll be honest, even the drivel reported in the press left me unimpressed that there could have been a conviction.The difference here is that Whelan was guilty as fucking sin, but isn’t paying the piper due to the evidence being not admitted.
That's a bit of a strange view. If the evidence isn't admissible then he can't be guilty of anything. The last time I looked our justice system considered everyone innocent until proven guilty based on admissible evidence and not on rumours coming out by leakers. I'll be honest, even the drivel reported in the press left me unimpressed that there could have been a conviction.