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Remembrance Day: National holiday?/"Veterans' Day"? (merged)

Remembrance Day should be a National Holiday?

  • Yes

    Votes: 80 61.1%

  • No

    Votes: 43 32.8%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 3.1%

  • Don't care

    Votes: 4 3.1%
  • Total voters
    131
Edward Campbell said:
When my father was KIA, Feb 1943, someone in Ottawa - Percy Nelles' puzzle palace - decided that someone should write letters to the mothers and widows of the others KIA. That was the "standard thing," after all. It was, normally, the job of the captain, but he was dead and the XO was somewhere in a long, not terribly well organized repatriation chain, so ... "let's ask the captain's widow to do it," they said to themselves. It can't be our job, they decided, we're just a bunch of regular force RCN types waiting for the Navy to build ships worthy of us because we couldn't be expected to go to sea in those slow, wet, little corvettes that were actually fighting and winning the Battle of the Atlantic.

Here is a sample of one of the letters:
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Wow, just wow ... Well done your mom, and thanks for sharing that bit of history to give us some lessons to learn (with hopes that those who need to, do). :salute:
 
I believe the addition of Indigenous Veterans Day as part of Remembrance Day ceremonies has caused some confusion as to whether we are remembering the grave or honouring the brave. Also if Parliament wanted to have a Veterans Day on another day it shouldn’t be too hard to make that decision. But they didn’t so here we are …
 
dimsum said:
www.cmfmag.ca

Canadian Armed Forces Day Celebrates the Contribution of Military Personnel - Canadian Military Family Magazine

Canadian Armed Forces Day, marked on the first Sunday of every June, will allow Canadians from coast to coast to coast to celebrate the heroic contributions of Canadian soldiers this weekend. First Sunday in June More than 70 countries around the world celebrate Armed Forces Day. Canadian Armed...
www.cmfmag.ca www.cmfmag.ca

It’s “alive”, as in it’s an official day started in 2002.

Not to be confused with “is it celebrated publicly”.

(And yes, I had to look it up myself. I had heard of it but didn’t realize it was a real day.)
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To add to your commentary

How Officialdom arrives at designating days . . .

For example, Canadian Forces Day is observed on the first Sunday in June as a result of a motion passed in the House of Commons on 25 April 2002. That motion read as follows:

"That, in the opinion of this House, the government should, on an annual basis, proclaim the first Sunday in June “Canadian Forces Day” in recognition of the tremendous contribution by the Canadian Forces, both at home and abroad, in such areas as the defence of Canada, our NATO commitments, humanitarian assistance, disaster relief, search and rescue and peacekeeping. 9"

Ever since the first Sunday in June was recognized as Canadian Armed Forces Day, successive governments have issued statements marking the occasion each year.10
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And those days that Heritage Canada lists . . . except that they seem to have left off Canadian Armed Forces Day.

Important and commemorative days - Canada.ca

Here are the important and commemorative days of the calendar.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca

And when I saw a link to a CN (Canadian National) site, I thought "wow, a whole month", however, only south of the border.

Military Appreciation Month | cn.ca

CN Celebrates Military Appreciation Month and Commemorates Memorial Day with our Veterans at CN Employee Resource Group
www.cn.ca www.cn.ca
 
Cloud Cover said:
I believe the addition of Indigenous Veterans Day as part of Remembrance Day ceremonies has caused some confusion as to whether we are remembering the grave or honouring the brave. Also if Parliament wanted to have a Veterans Day on another day it shouldn’t be too hard to make that decision. But they didn’t so here we are …
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As long I can park for free year round ;)

vancouver.ca

Veterans parking

Vehicles displaying veteran or Memorial Cross licence plates can park free year-round.
vancouver.ca vancouver.ca
 
Blackadder1916 said:
And those days that Heritage Canada lists . . . except that they seem to have left off Canadian Armed Forces Day.
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Of course they did …

There ought to be a Heritage Minute made just to celebrate the decision making process at Heritage Canada and its sub ministry the Department of Historical Disparagement.
 
Furniture said:
They are pretty aggressive about defending the poppy, I suspect they will go after them.
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So I saw a poster today in Vernon, BC advertising the same BS.
There is close to zero support for the Pally’s out here in fly over country, but the posters are right outside the Service Canada building.
 
Sort of related, so I didn’t have to start a new thread:

nationalpost.com

Liberals deny 'prayer ban' at Remembrance Day ceremonies, despite Conservative accusations

The directive requires chaplains to "carefully choose words that are inclusive" when leading public reflections
nationalpost.com nationalpost.com

  1. I thought that we had been doing this for years. The ceremonies I went to had vague wording for prayers, like “reflect in the faith you choose” or something like that.
  2. Personally, I would be happy with removing the entire prayer portion from ceremonies to begin with…and I’m not atheist.
  3. It would be interesting to see if there is any pushback if a Jewish Rabbi or Muslim Imam led a Remembrance Day service and had a Jewish/Muslim prayer, since we have Jewish and Muslim CAF members. Or since we have Sikh CAF members, a Guru.
 
dimsum said:
Sort of related, so I didn’t have to start a new thread:

nationalpost.com

Liberals deny 'prayer ban' at Remembrance Day ceremonies, despite Conservative accusations

The directive requires chaplains to "carefully choose words that are inclusive" when leading public reflections
nationalpost.com nationalpost.com

  1. I thought that we had been doing this for years. The ceremonies I went to had vague wording for prayers, like “reflect in the faith you choose” or something like that.
  2. Personally, I would be happy with removing the entire prayer portion from ceremonies to begin with…and I’m not atheist.
  3. It would be interesting to see if there is any pushback if a Jewish Rabbi or Muslim Imam led a Remembrance Day service and had a Jewish/Muslim prayer, since we have Jewish and Muslim CAF members. Or since we have Sikh CAF members, a Guru.
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I'm pretty sure we have had a Jewish chaplain do a Remembrance Day ceremony, but I'm not 100%.

At the national ceremony we don't do remove headdress, but the Legion still has prayers.
 
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