Reconstitution

[Quirky]

Thread derailed...

 

[Eye In The Sky]

It happens on lots of missions. Mostly because rations are a pain to dispose of properly as they have to be rendered inedible before disposal. Often that means flying the rations back to Canada as well, considering most countries won't allow foodstuffs from other countries to be disposed of locally. From a cost perspective it is often easier to eat them.

Ya well. They ended up in the garbage mostly.

Likely cause CJOC determined it was the best option for disposal

Ya. CJOC. Where all the best decisions are made.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Weren’t you LRP people at club med Al Salem? Yeaaahhh no sympathy from us Al Jabers. We didn’t see a flight line DFAC, if you could even call it that, until 4 months in.

That sucks; The Bullet just made sense. We would get to the HAS, kit up, PFIs complete and then hit the Bullet for breakfast etc and some take out for Flt feeding. Saved us a ton of time and didn’t affect crew day. No airfield pass meant no Bullet access, so all the airfield people didn’t get stuck in the big DFAC up the hill.

 

[MJP]

Ya well. They ended up in the garbage mostly.


Ya. CJOC. Where all the best decisions are made.

Didn't say it was the greatest plan, just the easiest.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

DFAC? (ask the Tac Hel peeps)

Pictured below (green airforce version)

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Ok. Sorry for that detail!

 

[daftandbarmy]

Not strictly about CAF reconstitution, but some familiar themes south of the border related to recruiting, retention and talent management:

It’s Not the Economy: Why the Army Missed its Recruitment Goals and What to Do About It​

3. Prioritize Talent Retention

In February 2011, then Defense Secretary Bob Gates told West Point cadets that “[the] greatest challenge facing your Army and my main worry [is]: How can the Army break up the institutional concrete, its bureaucratic rigidity in its assignments and promotion processes, in order to retain, challenge, and inspire its best, brightest, and most battle-tested young officers.” Despite his emphasis and leaders like retired Lt. Gen. Dave Barno calling human capital the military’s ”crown jewel,” self-inflicted wounds still lead to hemorrhage talent.

While 2018 retention quotas were met, changing the focus to quality of talent retained would better serve the force. Officer quality retention is especially acute as an informal study of West Point graduates by The Atlantic found that 82 percent of active-duty graduates “believed that half or more of the best are leaving.” Furthermore, 65 percent of graduates surveyed “agreed that the exit rate of the best officers leads to a less competent general-officer corps,” and 78 percent “agreed that it harms national security.”

It’s Not the Economy: Why the Army Missed its Recruitment Goals and What to Do About It - Modern War Institute

In 2018 the US Army failed to meet its recruitment goals for the first time since the height of the Iraq war in 2005. Military leaders have attributed that failure […]

mwi.usma.edu

 

[Navy_Pete]

I got a chuckle out of the bit about investing in automation. On the Navy side we are great about creating capabilities like that, not great about maintaining them, and terrible at linking that to effective usage.

Case in point, we have been doing vibration analysis on motors etc for a few decades, but continue to run them to failure because we don't have resources/time to change them out before they break, so ever 3rd line overhaul is a total rebuild, usually with major components needing fixed.

Similarly a lot of the remote systems are used to justify safely operating with less people, but then don't get maintained/repaired, and very infrequently do we fix them.

Maybe the USN would be better about it then we are, but it seems pretty common as equipment gets more complex that the operators don't want to adjust to give the downtime required to fix things, which can take longer because it's more complex.

 

[WLSC]

Ya well. They ended up in the garbage mostly.


Ya. CJOC. Where all the best decisions are made.

The real ''We're here to help'' shop

 

[brihard]

It happens on lots of missions. Mostly because rations are a pain to dispose of properly as they have to be rendered inedible before disposal.

Just sharpie “ham steak and raisin sauce” on it?

 

[dimsum]

Just sharpie “ham steak and raisin sauce” on it?

I'd say "Baked Cherry Dessert" but you said "inedible", not "suitable as a shield/throwing weapon".

 

[Eye In The Sky]

The best IMPs were the years when they just randomly put a main meal in a box that was likely labelled wrong; the Chicken Breast in Gravy could actually be beef chop suey, or lasagna or…

We asked “wtf is going on” and were told it was being done intentionally so troops wouldn’t try to hand-pick meals. It was great for moral. Lol

 

[dimsum]

The best IMPs were the years when they just randomly put a main meal in a box that was likely labelled wrong; the Chicken Breast in Gravy could actually be beef chop suey, or lasagna or…

We asked “wtf is going on” and were told it was being done intentionally so troops wouldn’t try to hand-pick meals. It was great for moral. Lol

Food allergies be damned!

 

[Halifax Tar]

The best IMPs were the years when they just randomly put a main meal in a box that was likely labelled wrong; the Chicken Breast in Gravy could actually be beef chop suey, or lasagna or…

We asked “wtf is going on” and were told it was being done intentionally so troops wouldn’t try to hand-pick meals. It was great for moral. Lol

Get outta here, that happened ?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Food allergies be damned!

Right out of the “beating will continue until moral improves!” playbook.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Get outta here, that happened ?

Oh ya. Every meal was a “surprise”.

Thankfully, we still had chicklet bingo to keep spirits up.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Oh ya. Every meal was a “surprise”.

Thankfully, we still had chicklet bingo to keep spirits up.

Thats F'd up...

 

[Eye In The Sky]

I just think the company messed up myself. I never believed the army was smart enough to come up with a COA like that…

 

[dimsum]

I just think the company messed up myself. I never believed the army was smart enough to come up with a COA like that…

Hanlon's Razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

 

[FSTO]

Hanlon's Razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

Bravo! You’ve just explained the entire GoC response to the China question.