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RCAF Leather Jacket (merged discussion and mocking)

Transporter said:
I'd be willing to bet that part of the reason there are no metal rank devices for this jacket yet is because in the coming months the AF will announce it is changing its rank nomenclature (and insignia) back to the old RCAF (current RAF) ranks... wait for it... wait for it...  :)

That or they will bring in those Fleece Lined Flying Boots from WW II.......
 
Transporter said:
I'd be willing to bet that part of the reason there are no metal rank devices for this jacket yet is because in the coming months the AF will announce it is changing its rank nomenclature (and insignia) back to the old RCAF (current RAF) ranks... wait for it... wait for it...  :)

You joke, but the CAS was the reviewing officer at my wings grad, and he was giving us the old *wink wink, nudge nudge* about it, so don't be surprised...  ;)
 
biggs said:
You joke, but the CAS was the reviewing officer at my wings grad, and he was giving us the old *wink wink, nudge nudge* about it, so don't be surprised...  ;)

As in name/rank or full-blown uniform change?

Cue Good Idea Fairy (and CIWS for shooting down said fairy) in 3....2......1.......
 
The deck chairs will certainly look nice as they slip beneath the waves.......
 
Dimsum said:
As in name/rank or full-blown uniform change?

Cue Good Idea Fairy (and CIWS for shooting down said fairy) in 3....2......1.......

Haha......this GIF is Armor plated.....and will not be denied by the CISW. ;)

May the farce be with you......
 
biggs said:
You joke, but the CAS was the reviewing officer at my wings grad, and he was giving us the old *wink wink, nudge nudge* about it, so don't be surprised...  ;)
Actually, I wasn't joking at all... it's coming.
 
I asked CANEX itself (through its website) what the deal is on the "metal rank devices", and here is the response I received.  I have deleted names/contact information, and certain irrelevant information from the CANAIRGEN.  The rank device is addressed in paragraph 8; essentially, it has not been finalised.

My enquiry:

Hello, I have a question about the new RCAF leather jacket. Can you tell me what the "metal rank devices" for the jacket are, and where one can get them?

CANEX response:

Thank you for your comment.  I have spoken to the Category Manager responsible for this department and he has advised me that a CANAIRGEN has been distributed to all active members to clarify what and how to go about ordering Rank and Name badges for the jackets.  I have attached the email for your information.

The attached email and CANAIRGEN:

As per our conversation below is a letter put together by the RCAF public affairs department which has valuable information that the stores can pass on to the customers when they get asked about the shoulder rank epaulettes and name patch. You should also note that I received all of the rank approvals (23) last Thursday and an e-mail will be sent out to all stores advising them of an approx delivery as soon as the we start the actual production.

UNCLAS                    1000-1 (RCAF CWO)

01  10  051335Z MAY  14  ZZ      UUUU                C AIR FORCE

            NDHQ C AIR FORCE OTTAWA

            CANAIRGEN

UNCLAS C AIR FORCE 15/14

SIC WAA

BILINGUAL MESSAGE/MESSAGE BILINGUE

SUBJ: RCAF LEATHER JACKET  UPDATE TO PRE-SALE INFORMATION

CANAIRGEN 10/14

THE FOLLOWING IS AN UPDATE TO CANAIRGEN 7/14 WHICH PROVIDES MORE
INFORMATION ON THE OFFICIAL RCAF LEATHER FLIGHT JACKET

1. PAYMENT OPTIONS - [deleted]

2.  NAME TAGS - WHEN WEARING THE LEATHER JACKET WITH THE UNIFORM,
RCAF PERSONNEL MUST ALWAYS WEAR A NAME TAG THAT ADHERES TO THE
REGULATIONS STIPULATED IN THIS MESSAGE. THE RCAF CONTINUES TO WORK
WITH CANEX TO FIND A SUITABLE CANADIAN MANUFACTURER, BUT AT THE
PRESENT TIME, THERE IS NO CANADIAN MANUFACTURER WHO IS ABLE TO
PRODUCE THE NAME TAGS IN CANADA. AS SUCH, THE ONLY AUTHORIZED
MANUFACTURER OF THE LEATHER NAME TAGS TO BE WORN WITH THE RCAF
LEATHER JACKET IS NAMETAGS4U.COM. PERSONNEL SHOULD ORDER THEIR
LEATHER NAME TAGS DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPANY S WEBSITE LOCATED AT
HTTPS://WWW.NAMETAGS4U.COM/FLIGHTSUIT-NAMETAGS/

3. THERE ARE 3 COMPONENTS TO THE NAME TAGS:

A. WINGS (REQUIRED FOR ALL TRADES ONCE THE MEMBER IS TRADE QUALIFIED)

B. LINE 1 (REQUIRED FOR ALL TRADES)

C. LINE 2 (OPTIONAL)

4. THE OPTIONAL PORTION OF THE NAME TAG SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR
INCLUSION WHEN THE MEMBER HAS A SIGNIFICANT POSITION(IE. UNIT
CO/CWOS), BUT IS NOT MANDATORY. IN THIS WAY, MEMBERS MAY KEEP THE
SAME NAME TAG WHEN THEY ARE POSTED BETWEEN JOBS, UNTIL THEY ARE
PROMOTED, AT WHICH TIME THEY OF COURSE REQUIRE A NEW ONE. WHEN
MEMBERS ELECT TO INCLUDE THEIR POSITION ON THEIR NAME TAGS, THERE IS
NO REQUIREMENT TO MAKE THE POSITION TITLES BILINGUAL. THE POSITIONS
MAY BE SPELLED OUT IN FULL, OR MAY BE ABBREVIATED AT THE DISCRETION
OF THE MEMBER (I.E. CO 443 SQN WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, AS WOULD WING
LOGISTICS OFFICER)

5. NAME TAGS SHALL ALL BE ORDERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING
CRITERIA:

A. LEATHER COLOUR: BLACK

B. BACKGROUND: NONE

C. WING COLOUR:  SILVER

D. TEXT LAYOUT: CENTER

E. TEXT COLOR: SILVER

F. LINE 1: RANK FIRST NAME LAST NAME, ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS (THE
RANK MAY BE ABBREVIATED OR MAY BE SPELLED OUT AT THE DISCRETION OF
THE MEMBER)

G. LINE 2: POSITION, ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS

6. CURRENTLY, THE OFFICIAL RCAF WINGS FOR MOST TRADES CAN BE FOUND BY
FOLLOWING THESE STEPS:

A. HTTPS://WWW.NAMETAGS4U.COM

B. SCROLL TO THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE PAGE IN THE CENTRE SECTION, UNDER
THE TITLE LEATHER PRODUCTS IS THE HEADING CUSTOM NAMETAGS CLICK ON
THIS

C. IN THE CENTRE OF THE PAGE, UNDER THE TITLE SELECT A CATEGORY TO
LIST THE WING BADGES, AND DESIGNS AVAILABLE FOR LEATHER TAGS IS THE
HEADING CANADIAN LEATHER NAMETAGS CLICK ON THIS

D. FIND YOUR TRADE WING AND CLICK ON THE DESIGN ONLINE LINK BELOW THE
CORRESPONDING WING

E. FOLLOW THE ONLINE PROMPTS TO CREATE YOUR NAMETAG

7. AT THIS TIME, MOST WINGS ARE AVAILABLE AT NAMETAGS4U.COM. THE AIR
STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THE CIVILIAN OWNERS OF NAMETAGS4U.COM TO
ENSURE THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE ALL THE RCAF TRADE WINGS THROUGH THEIR
WEBSITE, PROGRESS IS GOING WELL BUT AT THE TIME OF PUBLICATION, IS
NOT YET COMPLETE. IF YOUR TRADE WING DOES NOT APPEAR, INDIVIDUAL
MEMBERS MAY CONTACT THE OPI TO REQUEST THEIR TRADE BE ADDED:
[deleted]. THE DELAY IS 5-7 CALENDAR DAYS TO
UPDATE THE WEBSITE

8. RANK EPAULETTES - THE DESIGN OF THESE CONTINUES TO PROGRESS AND
WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ORDER FROM CANEX IN DUE COURSE

9. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, INCLUDING VIEWING THE LEATHER FLIGHT
JACKET, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL WING CANEX OUTLET
 
Privateer

Have you ever owned a leather jacket?

Have you ever punched holes in it?


Just asking.
 
(1) Yes and (2) no.  I thought that I'd close the loop on the "metal rank device" question by posting what CANEX said.  I do wonder why the decision was made to advertise that purchasers will be required to acquire something that doesn't exist even, it appears, at a design level.
 
Why would they require us to spell out the rank on the nametag?  Isn't that what the rank slides/pins/whatever are for  ???
 
Dimsum said:
Why would they require us to spell out the rank on the nametag?  Isn't that what the rank slides/pins/whatever are for  ???

More money in their coffers if you have to change your nametag every time you get promoted/demoted.    >:D
 
George Wallace said:
More money in their coffers if you have to change your nametag every time you get promoted/demoted.    >:D

They don't actually demote people in the Air Force do they? ;D
 
Pin-on ranks now available at Canex for $30. They are interesting to say the least. Abit larger than expected.

- Custom die stamped solid bronze RCAF leather jacket rank
- 30mm wide x 60mm long
- Silver plated with enamel colouring and epoxy
- Two deluxe spring clutch fasteners with 10mm long posts
- Packaged as matching set of two in a form fitting black velvet presentation box
 
eliminator said:

Hmmm, can't help but wonder if they will make a set so the GG has something to wear if they have to don a flight jacket?
 
I wonder if they'll ever break even on the cost of production.

And where on the ego-jacket are they supposed to be worn?
 
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