while varied, we aren’t the only armed forces with that problem.That's funny....
while varied, we aren’t the only armed forces with that problem.That's funny....
Nobody outside the army thinks the beret looks "professional", it's a silly hat that serves no purpose apart from filling the roll of hat that is easy to store in a pocket. It doesn't protect from the weather, and often times is formed poorly, or faded so badly it looks worn-out.The Army should be sprinting in the opposite direction of this informal rubbish. Undress headress (service / forage caps) for DEU, and re-inforcing of beret as normal working headdress in garrison.
I am, however, also a realist, and I know that the trend is for our military to look ever more slovenly and unprofessional.
Know anyone who wears a beret for comfort or practicality?
Not sure I’ve heard too many people state that it doesn’t look professional. And yes, putting it in the pocket is a much more practical than most headdress. The issue about poor forming and worn out is a leadership issue.Nobody outside the army thinks the beret looks "professional", it's a silly hat that serves no purpose apart from filling the roll of hat that is easy to store in a pocket. It doesn't protect from the weather, and often times is formed poorly, or faded so badly it looks worn-out.
They can. But the last thing I want is a ball cap with a plastic mesh though…and you know they might go there.Ball caps look professional to most people, particularly when paired with a working uniform.
The CAF needs to stop pretending our working uniforms are also parade uniforms. If we want fancy clothes for parades, go all-in, but working uniforms should be comfortable and practical. Know anyone who wears a beret for comfort or practicality?
A peaked cap, looks more professional, so if professional is the look we want, go all in.Not sure I’ve heard too many people state that it doesn’t look professional. And yes, putting it in the pocket is a much more practical than most headdress. The issue about poor forming and worn out is a leadership issue.
They can. But the last thing I want is a ball cap with a plastic mesh though…and you know they might go there.
Strangely the history of the adoption of the beret was exactly because of its practicality.
I honestly don’t care one way or another. If people want ball caps in the army, submit the proposal.A peaked cap, looks more professional, so if professional is the look we want, go all in.
They could make plastic mesh berets as well... The RCN has been wearing ball caps for decades, I think the CAF has ball caps sorted.
The beret was chosen in the time of battle dress, when not having your top button done up was considered an affront to the King, and was a chargeable offense... times have changed.
Where are people getting the idea that Logistik Unicorp is going to start issuing the ball cap from? I have talked to people in DAR about the cap and they never mentioned it being part of the upcoming combats online (OCFC2 contract).I'll wait for Logistics to start issuing them, not spending the $35 since I hardly wear my beret anyway. The local canex is already sold out with spouses (maybe for their serving members) and civvies buying them up. This should've been an issue item from the start IMO.
I'm navy, so I already have a ball cap and peaked cap, I just find the idea of a ball cap not being "professional" laughable.I honestly don’t care one way or another. If people want ball caps in the army, submit the proposal.
Logistik Unicorp has available (in my opinion) a poor quality, ill fitting, plain black ball cap for issue to sea cadets. I feel like it's a slippery slope to request that stuff up from Logistik. At least the private purchase ones on the west coast were comfortable.Where are people getting the idea that Logistik Unicorp is going to start issuing the ball cap from? I have talked to people in DAR about the cap and they never mentioned it being part of the upcoming combats online (OCFC2 contract).
Oh you have not heard the half of it! Today HR depts are full of grievances, complaints, Human Right's suits, etc. It is very hard to make someone wear almost anything. Even company supplied PPE. You have to show the company made accommodations and looked into everything, even if it means special gear. Hats or hairnets.It is interesting that when MacDonald's or Tim Horton's, bot h of whom assumingly take their public image quite seriously, tell their employee wear something on their heads none of the employees seem to bat an eye but when a police service or the military does the same thing it is a useless affront.
That is a valid point. I'm not a huge fan of police services shifting to ball caps from the peaked cap but certainly not enough to get tears on my pension cheque, but there is a wide gap between quality and style of ball caps, and I know what drives government procurement.But what style of ballcap? Form fitting? 80s trucker mesh? Low profile? High profile? Boxy? That's the next bun-fight!
I work for a company ( property management group in Ottawa).Oh you have not heard the half of it! Today HR depts are full of grievances, complaints, Human Right's suits, etc. It is very hard to make someone wear almost anything. Even company supplied PPE. You have to show the company made accommodations and looked into everything, even if it means special gear. Hats or hairnets.
Most people would be amazed at the volume of stuff an even middle size business must do.
And if a piece of clothing is mandated the company must supply for free to employee. And in some cases even maintain it.
Between the various units and regiments in the CAF, the army has enough pieces of headdress to worry about.
Beret, bush cap ( do not know what the new name is for ), forge cap, then the Highland Regiments think they have a piece of headdress for everyday of the week. Balmoral, Blue Bonnet, Glengary, combat balmoral, dress balmoral, Rifle regiments. Maybe a canpat baseball cap could added to the mix. Anyone know how pieces of headdress there is in the CAF ?