Previous drug use question 2002 - 2018 [Merged]

[PMedMoe]

I still dont want to lie about using drugs.

Don't, as I said in my first post, be honest.

MedTechStudent, I believe there are loads of threads on here about alcohol vs. marijuana.  Doesn't matter what people think along those lines, it's still illegal.

 

[sapphre]

So am I looking at getting this screwed up?

Im fairly sure they did say its CFAT, medical, interview all in one day, Im going for a hot trade.


Whats to become of me? Frig what a stupid idea.

 

[Teflon]

sapphre;

The good news is you realize you did a dumb-ass thing, now every dumb-ass act has concequences, you are at least displaying the right attitude of not wanting to lie about in your recruiting process, keep on with that and find out out what the concequences will be, you might very well have to wait 6months but hey, you did it and in the end one way or the other I sure you'll deal with it

 

[MedTechStudent]

it's still illegal.

With good reason, it makes you stupid. :brickwall:

I'm not advocating it's use, I'm just trying to downplay his situation because he seams quite stressed about it.

My last thing on it sapphre is this, you did it once, sounds like you hated it, bet you won't do it again.  As long as you tell the truth and don't do it again, you will be fine.  No one can tell you for sure if you will get in trouble because in all honesty, we just don't know.  

Best of luck to you!

 

[sapphre]

I suppose you're right. I just really hate my job! I was REALLY looking forward to getting out of here, and starting a career. Oh well, at least I can tell my future children how screwed up drugs make your life.

So, should I go ahead and proceed with the test as normal, tell them that I did smoke up in the last 30 days first time ever, and see what happends?

 

[PMedMoe]

So, should I go ahead and proceed with the test as normal, tell them that I did smoke up in the last 30 days first time ever, and see what happends?

Call the CFRC you're dealing with (or go in person) and ask.  That way, if you do have to wait the six months, you're not wasting their (and your) time.

 

[sapphre]

Good idea.

Ill do that now and let you know what I find out.

 

[kincanucks]

People stop giving recruiting advice or commenting on how the process works if you really have no intimate knowledge of it.

Sapphre,

You will go to the CFRC/D on the date scheduled and you will follow the direction given to you at that time.  Out.

 

[sapphre]

People stop giving recruiting advice or commenting on how the process works if you really have no intimate knowledge of it.

Sapphre,

You will go to the CFRC/D on the date scheduled and you will follow the direction given to you at that time.  Out.

Thanks for your help. Everyone, but I will be taking the following advise. I will simply go throught with this, no bsing the interview, explain my situation and wait the required amount of time if need be.


Thanks Army.ca for your help.

 

[randomNINJA]

My name is Brandon and I am 18. My life is going downhill and I need a serious change in life. I have always wanted to become a soldier ever since I was a wee lad. But unfortunately I got into the wrong crowd and began smoking pot. I have never done drugs, Just smoked marijuana throughout high school. I eventually dropped out, due to the ignorance of the teachers. They showed no care to me, because of the people I was hanging out with, because of that I did not get the marks I deserved. It is the exact same thing as getting paid $6.50/h of course you are going to quit. I have been arrested some 4 times, 1-being drunk in public 15, 2- being stoned... that is nonsense by the officer, 3- having 0.1 grams of marijuana on me, 4- having a corrupt cop put blame on me for 5 grams of marijuana which were not found "ON" me. The bag of weed was found in the forest where I clearly wasn't. After the last arrest in October of 2007, I decided to get my act together. I have now been clean of marijuana since then. I have stopped hanging out with those influential people.  So basically I got no friends ATM. So all I really do is workout,run,train nintaijitsu and work. So now that you know a little about me, I am now going to ask a few questions.

1. Due to my past, can I be denied access to the Canadian forces?

2. What documents do I need when I go to the recruiting place in Ottawa?

I hope I get some positive feed back, All help would be much appreciated.

 

[Mike Baker]

Do a search of the forums, and visit your local CFRC.


Baker

 

[S.Simpson]

I have never done drugs, Just smoked marijuana throughout high school.

:  :  :

First of all, stop lying to yourself about that one.

 

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[randomNINJA]

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First of all, stop lying to yourself about that one.

What do you mean? are you assuming that I have done cocaine and other crap like that?

 

[S.Simpson]

Marijuana might not be a "hard" drug, but it IS a drug, whether you like it or not.

 

[randomNINJA]

Marijuana might not be a "hard" drug, but it IS a drug, whether you like it or not.

ok good enough... but it can't kill you. so it is deemed harmless it is a stupid drug none the less. So I will never smoke up again.

But in vietnam... they smoked marijuana. Which helped the soldiers a lot! and because of them smoking there were less post traumatic stress incidences. But now there are more like it has shot up a good 80% I am not saying that the soldiers nowadays are pussies. But I do think marijuana does help out with post traumatic stress. My opinion. also is there division in the aptitude test? because that is useless to a soldier.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Do the required reading first and foremost.

What do you mean? are you assuming that I have done cocaine and other crap like that?

Marijuana is a drug. Full stop, no semantics.

Then you have to stop blaming everyone else, no matter what your perceptions are, and start taking responsibility for your own actions.

When you've done, at least, all the above, go to the Recruiting Centre, be honest and ask your questions there.

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[youngone]

Hi, i just wanted to know some things about past drug use and if they will allow me to join. when i was in high school in grade nine i experimented mushrooms only once and it was the worst experience ever i didn't even eat enough to hallucinate it just made me sick to my stomach and got like hot and cold sweats, i did not enjoy it at all. I also tried pot for the first time in grade nine wasn't to fond of it but when grade ten came along i did it a little more like on weekends and stuff, that went on for a while till grade 12 i never really was a big pot head or nothing it was more of just the weekend thing and i guess sometimes at school even. but in grade 10 i tried a line of cocaine that was offered by some friends, I know it was the stupidest thing i have ever done in my life and i was pissed at my self for about a week after. I've been outta school for a year now and i stopped smoking pot about 2 months ago i know i made bad choices in life but I've learned from my mistakes and i have changed a lot, I started boxing and going to the gym everyday, i dedicated my life to the gym I want to join the Forces so bad but I want to know if this is going to screw me

 

[karbon14]

Hi everyone
I’ve been reading through several posts on the site and it seems to me that there is an overwhelmingly false association between one’s past use of drugs, not so far in the past recreational smoking of marijuana and an individual’s integrity, ability to make decisions and reliability. These matters should be considered on a case by case basis. I understand that the military has a no-drug use policy and I fully understand and agree with the reasons behind it, nevertheless someone who drinks quite often, gambles or smokes a pack of cigarettes a day is probably less reliable than the recreational pot smoker that smokes once a month. The individual that does legal drugs on a regular basis are managing a crutch through behaviour that is deemed to be socially acceptable. The recreational pot smoker doesn’t have a crutch.

I recently applied for an officer position in the forces and from a military background. I am part of the top 1% of students at my university with a GPA of 4.0/4.3. I have actively volunteered in my community in several different programs, some of which I began myself. I also train year round for Olympic distance triathlons. I have excellent credit…you get the point.

I have no problem being honest with having experimented with hard drugs in the past, which ended about 7 years ago. I also have no problem being honest about recreationally smoking pot on and off since then. And I HAVE smoked marijuana in the past 6 months. If being honest about this means I don’t get in, or that I have to wait another 6 months and reapply because there are never any exceptions, then military policy designed to weed out undesirables may also be preventing their best candidates from having a go at it.

Let us not hide the fact that there have been numerous reports of military personnel testing positive for drug use in the Canadian Forces…just Google it. As an army brat, I’ve seen this. Like I said, the zero tolerance rule is there for a reason, I agree, but the screening should definitely go beyond whether an individual has smoked a joint in the last 180 days and establish whether it is an addictive behavior or if it has any repercussions in regards to one’s career path. Assessing suitable personality types is much more ambiguous than this. I don’t think someone who smokes a joint every four weeks is going to have any major issues quitting, unlike an alcoholic or a nicotine addict. At the risk of being criticized, I have to say that much of the animosity with the comments that I have read seem more appropriate if directed towards chronic marijuana smokers.

I know my opinions do not change the rules. I hadn't really considered joining the forces until I discovered a job that was personaly suitable in the Navy a few weeks back (just graduating). Your comments are appreciated. Thank you for responding respectfully.

 

[PMedMoe]

Just be honest in your interview.  They may tell you to come back when the six months since you smoked your last joint has passed.