Politics in 2018

[YZT580]

The Philippine government has told Canada to pound sand on the helicopter deal, I can see that coming back as "Liberals costing Canadian jobs".

Aren't they?  How do you market a military helicopter and then try and tell the customer that they can't use it as a military helicopter?  Do they expect a country to purchase one set for humanitarian use and another fleet for counterinsurgency? 

 

[Loachman]

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but what's the difference between a military Bell 412 and a civilian Bell 412?

 

[kratz]

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but what's the difference between a military Bell 412 and a civilian Bell 412?

IR paint?  ;D

I know, rhetorical question.

 

[Jarnhamar]

$840 million in new foreign aid in Syria.
$678-million over six years to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees.
Another $245-million set aside for the resettlement of an additional 10,000 government-assisted Syrian refugees over the next five years.
$200,000 spent on an unethical vacation (fined $100)
$100,000 to “somebody running a Minister’s Twitter account”
$59.5M goes to Burkina Faso one day after Trudeau tells vets they ask for too much

:yellow:

 

[Loachman]

IR paint?  ;D

Not necessarily IR, but paint scheme, yes.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but what's the difference between a military Bell 412 and a civilian Bell 412?

From the August 2015 news release about the first eight Bell 412 EPs Canada sold to the Philippines:

Five of eight Bell 412s will be assigned to the Philippine Air Force’s 205th Tactical Helicopter Wing for use in combat utility and human assistance disaster relief (HADR) operations. The remaining three, which are configured for VVIP transportation, will be assigned to the 250th Presidential Airlift Wing.

The Bell 412EP can also be configured for a wide range of missions such as law enforcement, special operations, homeland security, VIP transportation, oil and gas, and emergency medical service.

....................

Survivability features

The fuselage is fitted with rollover bulkhead protection for the occupants. The crashworthy, energy-absorbing crew seats ensure pilot safety and comfort. The transmission system uses chip detector and debris collection to provide early failure detection.

The Bell 412EP’s safety features also include rupture-resistant fuel cells, wire strike protection system, dual digital flight control, and dual redundant electrical, hydraulic and fuel systems.

Article Link

 

[FJAG]

. . .
I do enjoy the commentary from Jordan Peterson when he talks about the delusions of young leftist political activists, which he's very familiar with. . . .

Speaking of Jordan Peterson here is a good article about him from the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5374295/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Pilloried-speaking-sense.html

:cheers:

 

[Cloud Cover]

Sigh... let the riots begin:

Gerald Stanley found not guilty in death of Colten Boushie
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/gerald-stanley-colten-boushie-verdict-1.4526313

"  ...Outside the courthouse, Baptiste said to reporters the justice system has to change to serve First Nations people. "

really? Is the justice system now supposed to change to meet First Nations needs by depriving other races of their right to a fair trial. I hope not.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Speaking of Jordan Peterson here is a good article about him from the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5374295/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Pilloried-speaking-sense.html

:cheers:

has anyone read 12 Rules? I just bought it today, weekend reading... so far, it is quite enjoyable to read.

 

[Altair]

Sigh... let the riots begin:

Gerald Stanley found not guilty in death of Colten Boushie
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/gerald-stanley-colten-boushie-verdict-1.4526313

"  ...Outside the courthouse, Baptiste said to reporters the justice system has to change to serve First Nations people. "

really? Is the justice system now supposed to change to meet First Nations needs by depriving other races of their right to a fair trial. I hope not.

there was zero reason for 4 kids to be on someone else's property.

No need go address the justice system for that. Just don't do dumb things.

 

[Cloud Cover]

and that too...

 

[FJAG]

there was zero reason for 4 kids to be on someone else's property.

No need go address the justice system for that. Just don't do dumb things.

Five kids actually.

Here's a short summary of the evidence:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/what-happened-stanley-farm-boushie-shot-witnesses-colten-gerald-1.4520214

One can imagine why the jury may have had a reasonable doubt. I find the accidental discharge theory plausible when you consider that Boushie had a loaded 22 "rifle" between his legs at the time he was shot. If Stanley had shot deliberately then he could have argued self defence in that circumstance.

:cheers:

 

[Jarnhamar]

there was zero reason for 4 kids to be on someone else's property.

No need go address the justice system for that. Just don't do dumb things.

Yup. They were driving around stealing shit. The helpless teenagers  bit didn't hold up in court.

That said I'm very surprised by the verdict.

Jurors have just left via the side door in large van under police escort.

Speaks volumes.

 

[FJAG]

Link to Saskatoon Star Phoenix re Stanley trial including the evidence that prior to driving to Stanley's farm they attempted to steal a truck at another farm:

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/gerald-stanley-trial-jury-delivers-not-guilty-verdict-in-murder-of-colten-boushie

There is a short video that shows a number of the trail photos.

:cheers:

 

[Loachman]

From the August 2015 news release about the first eight Bell 412 EPs Canada sold to the Philippines:

Article Link

Whatever goes into a helicopter can be removed from a helicopter. There is no difference in the machine itself. Machines sold and delivered for SAR or VIP use can easily be reconfigured for any other use - and a new paint job, if necessary, is a simple thing to do.

 

[Loachman]

I highlighted a name in the last paragraph that I included. I see that as another indicator of the likelihood of continuing Liberal inaction.

http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-ugly-pipeline-war-is-no-accident-it-was-the-plan

Terence Corcoran: The ugly pipeline war is no accident. It was the plan

The Canadian pipeline crisis is developing along the usual constitutional divide and within the tired context of party politics punditry. Will Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government use its federal powers to overrule the unconstitutional moves by B.C.’s NDP government? Will B.C.’s attempt to block the $7.4-billion expansion of the Trans Mountain oilsands pipeline to the West Coast lead to a trade war with Alberta’s NDP?

And what will the Liberals’ new plans, announced Thursday, to gut the National Energy Board’s power and responsibilities, and new environmental rules released this week to protect the lives of fish against human encroachment by pipeline do to the state of the federation?

Wake up, Canada. This is not another political game show about the powers and rights of different levels of government. Nor is it about ritual inter-party rivalries among Liberals, New Democrats and Conservatives. The Trans Mountain constitutional meltdown is the product of an aggressive radical campaign by green extremists to rip up the Canadian economy.

<mucho snippage>

Among the Canadian green groups cited by Marx as eager recipients of funding were Environmental Defence Canada, World Wildlife Fund Canada, ForestEthics Canada, Greenpeace and others. At the time, in 2008, the head of World Wildlife Fund Canada was Gerald Butts, currently Prime Minister Trudeau’s principle secretary and top adviser. Other green activists sit on panels and outside cabinet rooms, providing bad advice and misguidance to politicians and business leaders.

 

[ModlrMike]

No other country would ring fence hundreds of billions of dollars worth of potential tax revenue.

 

[Good2Golf]

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but what's the difference between a military Bell 412 and a civilian Bell 412?

MIL-STD-1553 avionics buses, multiband ARC-210s, etc...  That stuff doesn't get 'removed'.

 

[Loachman]

Necessary for Philippine use?

 

[Jarnhamar]

Link to Saskatoon Star Phoenix re Stanley trial including the evidence that prior to driving to Stanley's farm they attempted to steal a truck at another farm:

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/gerald-stanley-trial-jury-delivers-not-guilty-verdict-in-murder-of-colten-boushie

There is a short video that shows a number of the trail photos.

:cheers:

Do you think the other members of the vehicle will be charged with trespassing, theft/attempted theft, drinking and driving, illegal possession of a firearm (which was probably stolen), having a loaded weapon in a vehicle or anything like that?  Seems they got a free pass.