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Vern:
Fair enough and maybe I was making a bit of a generalization. That will indeed work, maybe even for most trades but I can tell you first hand, it cannot for all (in their current trade progression construct). Most of the shipboard positions for the technical trades (Mar Eng, WEng especially) are double hatted in that they are both Force employment but have a Force generation caveat. Yes, I know you are always in preps to assume your supervisor's job, but there is a bit of a difference here and I admit that this may (more likely WILL) require a major cultural shift. I also admit that this may be a Navy only problem. Essentially, if you request to cease training at the LS rank in pretty much any (Navy)trade, you will no longer be in uniform within a few years. I am saying that this opting out possibility will create a mechanism to allow that. I personally am eager to see if this can work because (as I said in another thread) we need a change in culture and this may be the impetus for it. That said, thank you for the insight and I am going to keep in mind what you said because I know of a few who want to do this now. The next step is to introduce some sort of financial incentive allowing us to increase their pay to align with experience, training etc. other than the 4 incentives at rank.
Fair enough and maybe I was making a bit of a generalization. That will indeed work, maybe even for most trades but I can tell you first hand, it cannot for all (in their current trade progression construct). Most of the shipboard positions for the technical trades (Mar Eng, WEng especially) are double hatted in that they are both Force employment but have a Force generation caveat. Yes, I know you are always in preps to assume your supervisor's job, but there is a bit of a difference here and I admit that this may (more likely WILL) require a major cultural shift. I also admit that this may be a Navy only problem. Essentially, if you request to cease training at the LS rank in pretty much any (Navy)trade, you will no longer be in uniform within a few years. I am saying that this opting out possibility will create a mechanism to allow that. I personally am eager to see if this can work because (as I said in another thread) we need a change in culture and this may be the impetus for it. That said, thank you for the insight and I am going to keep in mind what you said because I know of a few who want to do this now. The next step is to introduce some sort of financial incentive allowing us to increase their pay to align with experience, training etc. other than the 4 incentives at rank.